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I am in this situation and if they offer me a job I wont be too worried about the salary
as long as they make me fly and gain precious experience
510orbust
You state the FO wage is £42932. You then say after the pittance that is paid during line training you are then on the full pay which would equate to over £50000. I can't see how you work this out even with sector pay.
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Is that management propoganda I sence coming from 510orbust
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With a name like that its no wonder you cant figure out how F/O's make 50000 a year.
Butt head, you tell me what you think is a fair wage for a direct entry type rated F/O
You will also notice Butt Head, he said before becoming qualified!!!!
Again people not understanding what people are saying!!!!!
Butt head, you tell me what you think is a fair wage for a direct entry type rated F/O
You will also notice Butt Head, he said before becoming qualified!!!!
Again people not understanding what people are saying!!!!!
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I have been in Jet2 for over three years now and i can say that generally they are a good employer. Yes there is a reduced wage whilst you are training but have you looked at what is happening at easyjet or ryanair and their pay to fly schemes? The salarys at Jet2 do need improving and i think that management are beginning to see that, as the company is growing it now needs to develop its terms and conditions to become a career airline as the training inconvenience as well as cost will become to much to manage on a yearly basis with the size of the airline. As others have said it is a friendly airline to work for and really does have its good points, all it needs is to grow out of its teenage years and mature and it will be great.
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Crikey man. Take a deep breath!! I am not about to get into a slanging match with you or name calling. I asked a genuine question as to how you make up over £7000 on the basic. This cannot be sector pay alone. If you can sell days off then fair enough but hence why the question was asked.
As for your question to me, the average (fair) wage for a type rated DE experienced FO in the UK for a 737/757/A320 type job is around the £48-50k mark + sector pay & benefits. That's based on what the likes of Monarch, EasyJet, TCX, Thomson, bmi, DHL pay.
Crikey man. Take a deep breath!! I am not about to get into a slanging match with you or name calling. I asked a genuine question as to how you make up over £7000 on the basic. This cannot be sector pay alone. If you can sell days off then fair enough but hence why the question was asked.
As for your question to me, the average (fair) wage for a type rated DE experienced FO in the UK for a 737/757/A320 type job is around the £48-50k mark + sector pay & benefits. That's based on what the likes of Monarch, EasyJet, TCX, Thomson, bmi, DHL pay.
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Keep your post in the proper context...
KEEP IT REAL!
Get a Grip...
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A matter of weeks (I would suspect a lot more with the amount of on-going training and Trainer availability) or not, it's professionally humilitaing, degrading and everything that is wrong with the UK aviation industry...and as a Pro Pilot you are supporting it?!? Mr Meeson saw you coming didn't he...
As things improve and as various strike ballots begin to appear, Jet2 will either change or be nothing more than a training environment for those who can't afford the easJet MPL scheme...
P.s If you leave in a few years for a better paid job, we'd all love to hear about it!
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Jet2 is also the new boy on the block in regards to the other airlines mentioned, and as the other gent said, they will mature, and in my opinion for the better.
With all thats included, and the pension, which to me is part of the wage, it equates to just over 50k on the 100 percent contract.
I have the perfect base (for me), my work schedule allows me to have a life, there are NO deep over nights (latest is the mail run), no 4 am starts, home every night (no hotels), so to me all is good. All these things are worth well over a base pay of 50k plus benefits.
How do you put a price on being home every night. I think people need to look at the big picture and not just the once mighty shrinking pound.
Oh Mr. moderator, again talking out of the huge two way orifice, as soon as someone comments on something they know nothing about, it shows me the amount of intellect. Commenting on my financial status, if it makes you feel better to believe I am broke then go for it. Maybe I took Jet2 because I am not, and I don't need the money, guess you will never know LOL
Moderator = lonely old man sitting on top of his cyber sand pile with nothing better to do than play on a PC. Get a hobby, I would start with a life personally!
With all thats included, and the pension, which to me is part of the wage, it equates to just over 50k on the 100 percent contract.
I have the perfect base (for me), my work schedule allows me to have a life, there are NO deep over nights (latest is the mail run), no 4 am starts, home every night (no hotels), so to me all is good. All these things are worth well over a base pay of 50k plus benefits.
How do you put a price on being home every night. I think people need to look at the big picture and not just the once mighty shrinking pound.
Oh Mr. moderator, again talking out of the huge two way orifice, as soon as someone comments on something they know nothing about, it shows me the amount of intellect. Commenting on my financial status, if it makes you feel better to believe I am broke then go for it. Maybe I took Jet2 because I am not, and I don't need the money, guess you will never know LOL
Moderator = lonely old man sitting on top of his cyber sand pile with nothing better to do than play on a PC. Get a hobby, I would start with a life personally!
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I'm with you 510orbust!
Jet2 is a pleasant place to work, good people to fly with, a not-too-taxing roster and home every night.
Yes, we all could do with some more money, but I'd much rather work for Jet2 than any other LoCo and (as I can't be bothered negotiating the M25 every time I go to work) domestically it works a lot better than a LHR or LGW position.
Of course it remains to be seen how things will/may change as the airline grows, but so far I'm happy!
Jet2 is a pleasant place to work, good people to fly with, a not-too-taxing roster and home every night.
Yes, we all could do with some more money, but I'd much rather work for Jet2 than any other LoCo and (as I can't be bothered negotiating the M25 every time I go to work) domestically it works a lot better than a LHR or LGW position.
Of course it remains to be seen how things will/may change as the airline grows, but so far I'm happy!
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It was a pun on your PPRuNe name, not your financial status - a bit subtle for you maybe...
We'll leave it there as 510orbust has reduced it to nothing more than pathetic childish comments...
Cheers
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We'll leave it there as 510orbust has reduced it to nothing more than pathetic childish comments...
Cheers
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60 percent
Hey three bars, no matter which company someone works for there will always be someone that is not happy, that thinks the grass is greener, or that has only worked for one airline, and really has no idea what other companies are like.
Many are leaving for the Sand Pit, yet how many guys are there wishing they were back in the UK? I know guys that went to BA that are not happy there either.
This 60 percent figure, where did you get it? did you ask 10 guys and six said they were not happy, or did you talk to all the hundreds of pilots and ask them?
Again personally I don't put numbers or say things on this forum that I am not 100 percent sure about. I am also a huge believer in, "if you are not happy fix it"
yes Mr. moderator you are correct, would not want childish comments on here would we!
Many are leaving for the Sand Pit, yet how many guys are there wishing they were back in the UK? I know guys that went to BA that are not happy there either.
This 60 percent figure, where did you get it? did you ask 10 guys and six said they were not happy, or did you talk to all the hundreds of pilots and ask them?
Again personally I don't put numbers or say things on this forum that I am not 100 percent sure about. I am also a huge believer in, "if you are not happy fix it"
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510 - 60% figure from Balpa...you're obviously not a member!
I've worked with many different airlines and yes, none are perfect, but you must accept that perhaps Jet2 won't suit everyone.
Also, I'm Fixing it!
I've worked with many different airlines and yes, none are perfect, but you must accept that perhaps Jet2 won't suit everyone.
Also, I'm Fixing it!
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I am a member actually, again talking about something you are not sure about!
I wish you all the best in your new job and I hope it makes you happy.
PS. Instead of using figures that you found off a website, I would suggest asking the guys you fly with and getting the information first hand!
I wish you all the best in your new job and I hope it makes you happy.
PS. Instead of using figures that you found off a website, I would suggest asking the guys you fly with and getting the information first hand!
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510...You say you don't post anything unless your 100% sure....So
"As far as the comment that says, they are not accepting people that used to work for the company, its not true, people are returning that realized the grass is not always greener in different pastures"
My comment was in relation to one of the flightcrew that got right "royally" shafted when J2 closed the Stansted base. Even though he was type rated...TWE didn't want him...obviously his type rating was good enough for B.A though
And the Company is mature, not a new boy on the block as you state...read/investigate the history of Dart group and its origins from a north London car park flogging 2CV's to BMW 3 series on the Fulham Rd to Regional Airways...onto Twin Otters from Cardiff...Furniture Vans stuffed with flowers from Bournemouth up to Covent Garden...The movement of a Herald airframe with no engines to start up the Channel Islands air cargo routes....It all has one common thread...A business man who uses the same modus operandi of a second hand car salesman...and that is not a knock at PM...because it works...Its just that some costs he can control..i.e you, others he can't Fuel...He can hedge all he wants....Have fuel tables for crews and special planning procedures..but at the end of the day...the gas guzzling classics will have to make way for next gen technology and that will cost you big time...If your happy with your T+C's great...but they saw you coming and always will and that attitude won't change which is why the turnover of crew continues...Just remember when Human Remains pro-actively engages with you..... you're a cost not an asset !
"As far as the comment that says, they are not accepting people that used to work for the company, its not true, people are returning that realized the grass is not always greener in different pastures"
My comment was in relation to one of the flightcrew that got right "royally" shafted when J2 closed the Stansted base. Even though he was type rated...TWE didn't want him...obviously his type rating was good enough for B.A though
And the Company is mature, not a new boy on the block as you state...read/investigate the history of Dart group and its origins from a north London car park flogging 2CV's to BMW 3 series on the Fulham Rd to Regional Airways...onto Twin Otters from Cardiff...Furniture Vans stuffed with flowers from Bournemouth up to Covent Garden...The movement of a Herald airframe with no engines to start up the Channel Islands air cargo routes....It all has one common thread...A business man who uses the same modus operandi of a second hand car salesman...and that is not a knock at PM...because it works...Its just that some costs he can control..i.e you, others he can't Fuel...He can hedge all he wants....Have fuel tables for crews and special planning procedures..but at the end of the day...the gas guzzling classics will have to make way for next gen technology and that will cost you big time...If your happy with your T+C's great...but they saw you coming and always will and that attitude won't change which is why the turnover of crew continues...Just remember when Human Remains pro-actively engages with you..... you're a cost not an asset !
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With all that's included, and the pension, which to me is part of the wage
Freightdoggy dog puts it very well and knows the company better than most.
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Who do you work for Butt head?
Freight Doggy who do you work for?
When did you guys last work for Jet2?
Life assurance yes
Do I pay for staff parking no
Freight Doggy who do you work for?
When did you guys last work for Jet2?
Life assurance yes
Do I pay for staff parking no
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510 or bust
much that i applaud the loyalty to your employer i must say that you have risen to the bait! As i have said before generally Jet2 is a good employer BUT as in any workplace improvements can be made. Yes as someone else has pointed out it comes from an old and bit of an arthur dayley background but the model works! Just a few tweaks and it will be really good.
JB007 i am a little dissapointed in your reaction and almost aggressive posts, yes 510 did cross the line but as a moderator you should perhaps moderate your reaction, after all you have the power to edit or remove, the rest of us do not.
now...for those who are interested in the topic of this thread, Jet2 are recruiting, the choice is yours, personally i like it :-)
JB007 i am a little dissapointed in your reaction and almost aggressive posts, yes 510 did cross the line but as a moderator you should perhaps moderate your reaction, after all you have the power to edit or remove, the rest of us do not.
now...for those who are interested in the topic of this thread, Jet2 are recruiting, the choice is yours, personally i like it :-)
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'510orbust' got the replies he deserved quite frankly - it's great Jet2.com works for people and the expansion plans for the holiday business are great news. With the amount of people they now employ, I hope it's a success.
But don't come on here defending Jet2's attitude to pilots with it's T & C's with comments like 'Get Real...' - they are the worsed jet terms in the United Kingdom - FACT! And as long as they can keep employing people who are deficient in worldy wisdom and understanding, showing unaffected simplicity towards what they are offering as anywhere near acceptable, nothing will change industry wide...
If you're out of work, it's simply better than nothing...
But don't come on here defending Jet2's attitude to pilots with it's T & C's with comments like 'Get Real...' - they are the worsed jet terms in the United Kingdom - FACT! And as long as they can keep employing people who are deficient in worldy wisdom and understanding, showing unaffected simplicity towards what they are offering as anywhere near acceptable, nothing will change industry wide...
If you're out of work, it's simply better than nothing...
