PAL Pilot Exodus

[planestupid]

JOBS

I read this forum with great sadness! I hope LT, JB, JH and JA read this however slim that possibility may be. PAL pilot exodus is a popular thread because of the very disatisfied employees and growing unrest in the company.
The only way for LT to listen is to hurt him where it hurts most.... his pocket so periodically I'll post jobs specifically for PAL pilots.

here are a few:

FIRST OFFICERS (B737, A330 / 340 and B777) ******* AIRBUS S/Os SHOULD APPLY TOO!!!!**************

Welcome to Jet Airways - India’s largest and most preferred airline.

Our fleet consists of 43 classic and next generation Boeing 737-400/700/800/900 aircraft, 3 Airbus A340-300E aircraft, 1 Airbus A330-200 and 8 modern ATR 72-500 turboprop aircraft. With an average age of 5.1 years, we have one of the youngest aircraft fleet in the world. Jet Airways’ operates over 320 daily flights to 48 destinations that span the length and breadth of India and beyond including London, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Colombo, and Kathmandu.

This is just the beginning of our journey as we plan to conquer the global skies with our vast expansion plans resulting in rapid growth of our route network all over the world and doubling of our fleet size by the end of 2010. Commencing October 01, 2006, we will be setting a European base for A330/340 and beginning of March 2007 for B777.

To spearhead the airline’s expansion plan, we are looking for dynamic and ambitious Pilots to fly the world’s most modern and advanced fleet of ATR 72-500, B737 NG, A330 / 340 and B777. We have career opportunities for TREs, TRIs, Line Captains and First Officers for all the fleet types. So if you are ready for an exciting and challenging career - Come and be a part of the winning team!!!

Minimum Qualification:
First Officers - * 1000 hrs Total Flying Hours plus a current type rating. * AIRBUS S/Os SHOULD APPLY TOO!!!!*
Note : (* ) Subject to Government Regulations

We are also looking for pilots above the age of 60.

Terms of Employment:
• Three year renewable contract for all positions / categories of employment
• Besides a high flying career, we offer competitive remuneration package which commensurates with international standards.
• Pick up and drop facility for all flights.
• Schedule –

India Based :
B737/ATR : Scheduled on 8 weeks ON 2 weeks OFF basis
Wide body : Scheduled on 6 weeks ON 2 weeks OFF basis

Europe Based (only wide body):
28 days paid leave in 12 months (Pro – rated for any part of year)

• In India, we provide a fully furnished 2 bedroom apartment or $1800 as accommodation allowance.
• For European base, pilots will remain on their home of records and Jet Airways will provide them with low cost ticket to reach the departure airport one day prior to the assigned flight duty. In addition, they will be provided with one over night stay in the respective crew hotel. At the end of the flight duty the pilot with return to their home of records.

For any additional information about Jet Airways please visit our website i.e. www.jetairways.com


A320 CAPTAIN

Sigmar Aviation on behalf of our client have an URGENT requirement for A320 Captains for an ongoing contract based in Asia.

Candidates Must have the following;

Hold a valid JAA/FAA or ICAO ATPL
First Class Medical
Minimum of 500hrs PIC on type {A320}
Flown on type {A320} within the last 12 months

Crew Roster will be a schedule of 8weeks on with 2 consecutive PAID weeks OFF.

Sigmar Aviation would like to invite all candidates meeting the above criteria ONLY to submit a full updated CV/Resume to Sabrina at [email protected].


A320 CAPTAIN

Parc Aviation, on behalf of our clients, require A320 Captains for a 2 year renewable contract based in Asia.

Interested applicants must have the following minimum requirements:

- Current ICAO ATPL
- Current A320 Command Type Rating
- Current Class 1 Medical
- Valid Passport
- 500 command hours on A320 aircraft
- 7000 Hours total time
- age 57 or under on 31st June 2006.
- last actual in actual A320 aircraft during the last 6 months
http://www.parcaviation.aero/aviatio...htcrewJobs.asp

A320/321 First Officers

are required for an initial 2 year term, renewable thereafter. The position is based in Vietnam.

Experience must include:

Last A320 Sim Check within last 5 months, last flight on type within last 5 months
Total Time: 2,500+ hrs
Total Jet time: 1,500+ hrs
Total A320 FO hrs: 1000 + hrs

Qualifications Required:

Aged under 55 years

Please send by e-mail or fax copies of:
1.Current licence, with A320 Rating
2.Current medical
3 Latest Sim Check
4. Copy passport
5. Last 2 pages of log book

Benefits:

Excellent contract terms & commuting !
6 week on , 2 weeks off with tickets for days off anywhere on Vietnam Airlines' network


Please contact [email protected]
ph: 64 9 302 0080 fax: [phone]




Good luck!!!!

[teeepee]

a340/330

Originally Posted by planestupid

I read this forum with great sadness! I hope LT, JB, JH and JA read this however slim that possibility may be. PAL pilot exodus is a popular thread because of the very disatisfied employees and growing unrest in the company.
The only way for LT to listen is to hurt him where it hurts most.... his pocket so periodically I'll post jobs specifically for PAL pilots.

here are a few:

FIRST OFFICERS (B737, A330 / 340 and B777) ******* AIRBUS S/Os SHOULD APPLY TOO!!!!**************

Welcome to Jet Airways - India’s largest and most preferred airline.

Our fleet consists of 43 classic and next generation Boeing 737-400/700/800/900 aircraft, 3 Airbus A340-300E aircraft, 1 Airbus A330-200 and 8 modern ATR 72-500 turboprop aircraft. With an average age of 5.1 years, we have one of the youngest aircraft fleet in the world. Jet Airways’ operates over 320 daily flights to 48 destinations that span the length and breadth of India and beyond including London, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Colombo, and Kathmandu.

This is just the beginning of our journey as we plan to conquer the global skies with our vast expansion plans resulting in rapid growth of our route network all over the world and doubling of our fleet size by the end of 2010. Commencing October 01, 2006, we will be setting a European base for A330/340 and beginning of March 2007 for B777.

To spearhead the airline’s expansion plan, we are looking for dynamic and ambitious Pilots to fly the world’s most modern and advanced fleet of ATR 72-500, B737 NG, A330 / 340 and B777. We have career opportunities for TREs, TRIs, Line Captains and First Officers for all the fleet types. So if you are ready for an exciting and challenging career - Come and be a part of the winning team!!!

Minimum Qualification:
First Officers - * 1000 hrs Total Flying Hours plus a current type rating. * AIRBUS S/Os SHOULD APPLY TOO!!!!*
Note : (* ) Subject to Government Regulations

We are also looking for pilots above the age of 60.

Terms of Employment:
• Three year renewable contract for all positions / categories of employment
• Besides a high flying career, we offer competitive remuneration package which commensurates with international standards.
• Pick up and drop facility for all flights.
• Schedule –

India Based :
B737/ATR : Scheduled on 8 weeks ON 2 weeks OFF basis
Wide body : Scheduled on 6 weeks ON 2 weeks OFF basis

Europe Based (only wide body):
28 days paid leave in 12 months (Pro – rated for any part of year)

• In India, we provide a fully furnished 2 bedroom apartment or $1800 as accommodation allowance.
• For European base, pilots will remain on their home of records and Jet Airways will provide them with low cost ticket to reach the departure airport one day prior to the assigned flight duty. In addition, they will be provided with one over night stay in the respective crew hotel. At the end of the flight duty the pilot with return to their home of records.

For any additional information about Jet Airways please visit our website i.e. www.jetairways.com


A320 CAPTAIN

Sigmar Aviation on behalf of our client have an URGENT requirement for A320 Captains for an ongoing contract based in Asia.

Candidates Must have the following;

Hold a valid JAA/FAA or ICAO ATPL
First Class Medical
Minimum of 500hrs PIC on type {A320}
Flown on type {A320} within the last 12 months

Crew Roster will be a schedule of 8weeks on with 2 consecutive PAID weeks OFF.

Sigmar Aviation would like to invite all candidates meeting the above criteria ONLY to submit a full updated CV/Resume to Sabrina at [email protected].


A320 CAPTAIN

Parc Aviation, on behalf of our clients, require A320 Captains for a 2 year renewable contract based in Asia.

Interested applicants must have the following minimum requirements:

- Current ICAO ATPL
- Current A320 Command Type Rating
- Current Class 1 Medical
- Valid Passport
- 500 command hours on A320 aircraft
- 7000 Hours total time
- age 57 or under on 31st June 2006.
- last actual in actual A320 aircraft during the last 6 months
http://www.parcaviation.aero/aviatio...htcrewJobs.asp

A320/321 First Officers

are required for an initial 2 year term, renewable thereafter. The position is based in Vietnam.

Experience must include:

Last A320 Sim Check within last 5 months, last flight on type within last 5 months
Total Time: 2,500+ hrs
Total Jet time: 1,500+ hrs
Total A320 FO hrs: 1000 + hrs

Qualifications Required:

Aged under 55 years

Please send by e-mail or fax copies of:
1.Current licence, with A320 Rating
2.Current medical
3 Latest Sim Check
4. Copy passport
5. Last 2 pages of log book

Benefits:

Excellent contract terms & commuting !
6 week on , 2 weeks off with tickets for days off anywhere on Vietnam Airlines' network


Please contact [email protected]
ph: 64 9 302 0080 fax: [phone]




Good luck!!!!

////would you pls tell me where to email resume just in case we apply today///

[teeepee]

TAC's

Originally Posted by semper fi

So a tacuboy is a person who flies for Asiana and is an instructor? wow? he must have a lot of command time and experience from where he came from to be an instructor in a korean airline right?

///// noel tacs is a good man, god fearing ,fair and a military brat who was brought up in the military camp, last a hardknok grad as well/// not to mention the pay and promotion he probably cant stomach gate1 gestapo anymore///is james still in stalag17?//palagi huli kc....

[teeepee]

TAC's

Originally Posted by semper fi

So a tacuboy is a person who flies for Asiana and is an instructor? wow? he must have a lot of command time and experience from where he came from to be an instructor in a korean airline right?

/// it's the attitude that counts and the command time follows,yes he is a good pilot I SHOULD KNOW....i know the group 7D's

[Soundbarviolatr]

Speaking of which...

I have heard all sorts of scandals regarding the last big strike at PAL and a group of guys called the seven dwarfs. What I do not understand is why there were only 7 pilots that understood the consequences of a "return to work" order by the Government? Did ALPAP keep the rest of the pilots in the dark? And if these 7 pilots did NOT in fact cross the picket line (because legally there was none) why are they being targeted? Seems unfair to label these guys as scabs just because they are smart enough to know when a strike is legal or illegal. Such a small industry and it would be a shame if their names are not cleared if in fact they did it right.

[richkidpoorkid]

Pilot stupidity again

Soundbarviolatr's opinion is exactly the point i've been driving at.

As much as the 7 dwarves are much hated by a number of die hard ALPAP people (& they think they are standing by their "principio" at that), these 7 dwarves (somebody told me that they are not 7 but actually 14 people) actually did the right thing on not joining the strike & to be led by Soti, Bombay, "Pitik", Cristobal (who went to EVA after being pointman of the strike committee) & the scambug of the earth lawyer Jojie Antonio to their doom.

Years have passed & die hard ALPAP people are still blaming other people instead of themselves for their big mistake.

And LT is actually the big winner here. He saved a lot of money by the pilots' stupidity (brought about by the pilots' group arrogance...pilots thought that they were a different breed of men in the old days from watching too much western or Tom Cruise movies & that they can actually topple LT's empire...what arrogance & stupidity!!!!).

LT was just so happy that the pilots went on strike & that after this he can get away with anything, the Union being gone.

But there are a lot of job opportunities these days & pilots can forget about their stupidity & get back at the big time exploiter, greedy LT by leaving PAL straight away.

But then for reasons of their own, pilots choose to stay in PAL & put up with the tyrannical treatment of JH, JA, LL, & EG/BG & the exploitative business strategy of greedy LT .

LT & the rest of the brown nosed people of flight ops can get away with their abusive ways because pilots just say "yes sir!!!" to their antics.



Talking about Tacuboy, it is to my knowledge that this guy was harrassed by EG/BG no end when he submitted his resignation: that he was not allowed to go on sick leave even with a clogged sinus.

After a week of flying with the clog, Tacuboy reported to the flight surgeon with severe pains in his ears. The flight surgeon finally grounded him...man, this guy could have gone deaf & said goodbye to his flying career & source of livelihood!!!!

This could have been subject to a big law suit if this happened in the states!!

People of flight operations in PAL (as well as in the flight attendants' section) are known to call the flight surgeon to tell the doctor not to ground certain individuals even with legitimate medical reasons when they think that these employees are planning on leaving the company.

Now what to you think of that?

Wouldn't that qualify PAL as the next modern day Stalag 17 (or Alcatraz, or Guantanamo Bay...).

Quoting the Eagles' hit song "Hotel California", PAL's policy is more like: "...you can check out anytime of the night, but you can never leave..."

[semper fi]

great post planestupid !!!!

Hey PS , nice post, that certainly will get a lot of minds thinking, maybe you can throw in how it is to live in your neck of the woods, like what things they can do during their spare time, hobbies they can take up while there, etc, etc. that will help more people make a qualified decision.

LISTEN UP GUYS, THERE REALLY IS GREENER GRASS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

[semper fi]

Taipan Woes

I read this forum with great sadness! I hope LT, JB, JH and JA read this however slim that possibility may be. PAL pilot exodus is a popular thread because of the very disatisfied employees and growing unrest in the company.
The only way for LT to listen is to hurt him where it hurts most.... his pocket so periodically I'll post jobs specifically for PAL pilots.

here are a few:

FIRST OFFICERS (B737, A330 / 340 and B777) ******* AIRBUS S/Os SHOULD APPLY TOO!!!!**************etc etc

I read in a finance magazine somewhere that this LT you talk so fondly about is a taipan and has control of most of the vital industries not to mention courts. So why the heck should he care if he looses a few good men to other airlines?

Think about it, for every one guy who leaves the nest , around 50 other guys are just sitting there wanting to fill his boots. Forget about experience, they will lower the benchmark to accomodate anybody just to make a point to the people leaving. At day's end only the managers and higher ups care about their seats and nobody else, for the rest of you , stop dreaming and go boldy where no man has gone before, or watch while the klingons laugh all the way to the bank.

Live long and prosper................for somebody else.

[Soundbarviolatr]

RP Registered B767

BTW, whatever happened to the 7 or 14 dwarfs? Have they moved on to bigger and better things? Are they still unfairly viewed as scabs? There is an actual international scab list on the web and I have yet to see any recent PAL entries. Which is good because most CPs (even in the corporate/charter world) use that list to scan applicants. Like I said, it would be unfair for these guys to be labeled wrong when they were actually the smart ones who did it right - legally.

On a different note:
I was at Flight Safety in Long Beach CA earlier this year when I saw a brand new (white factory paint) B767 with an RP tail number fly in. Whats going on over there? I know PAL is die hard Scarebus so any intel on who owns it? LT's personal ride?

[kontra]

Rp 767???

767 with "RP-C XXXX" tail number? Haven't heard of any major RP carrier ordering one. It could be RP registered but not necessarily owned by a local company. Cheaper to register in RP perhaps?

[Soundbarviolatr]

Perhaps. It was brand spankin new, all white no logos. Wonder if it's corporate/charter? This was back in January 06 and I know there has been a lot of N# jets headed to asia on contracted corporate/charter ops.

[richkidpoorkid]

the big macho men blunder of 1998

Originally Posted by Soundbarviolatr

I have heard all sorts of scandals regarding the last big strike at PAL and a group of guys called the seven dwarfs. What I do not understand is why there were only 7 pilots that understood the consequences of a "return to work" order by the Government? Did ALPAP keep the rest of the pilots in the dark? And if these 7 pilots did NOT in fact cross the picket line (because legally there was none) why are they being targeted? Seems unfair to label these guys as scabs just because they are smart enough to know when a strike is legal or illegal. Such a small industry and it would be a shame if their names are not cleared if in fact they did it right.

A lot of pilots were actually forced to go with the bigger group which was so trigger happy on going on strike in 1998. And the smaller group who had doubts actually had a lot of valid questions.

But it was machismo that ruled during those days in 1998.

Macho men were appointed into the strike committee & it was really this group & the scambug lawyer Antonio who decided on going on strike...not the executive committee (VP to equipment reps) which was made up of appointees: in those days no one wanted to take positions in ALPAP because there was this strong feeling of big trouble brewing.

So ALPAP appointed officers & they made a point of appointing pilots who somehow had blood relations with management pilots (they thought that in case the union goes on strike, mgt will not be too hard on their relatives...wrong!!!! it turned out that these mgt pilots were small fries & that the LT & PAL lawyers would be calling the shots...man it caused a lot friction in the pilots' families...a rehush of 1971).

Years later I had a talk with a Filipino lawyer in LA who had knowledge of Antonio's ways.

He said that Antonio decided for the pilots to go on strike (& Soti was so stupid to let her do it) because she thought that LT will not fight back!!! Anywhere in the world, you punch a man a hundred pounds heavier than you & he beats you up!!

And she was banking on a labor arbiter called Reala (who actually sired her a kid) to help her on the case in the NLRC (national labor reconciliatory commission???).

Guess where Reala is now? He was promoted to a higher court & a lot of law practitioners in the PHils see a hand of LT responsible here.

So the pilots lead by Soti actually had the patsy on their side.

So despite having legitimate complaints, the pilots lost everything.

LT likes dealing with macho men (they don't think too much, do they?)...that was his remark on the jailed ex Pres Erap: "I like him because he can easily be fooled (TANga- plain stupid)."


Actually the 7 dwarves are only hated in principle (or in some people's imagination...hating another because they don't have the guts to hate themselves for their big mistake).

They were never put in a list for other airlines to read.

But that was the press release of ALPAP during those days that anyone defying ALPAP's actions would be listed as such...all bark no bite...so much for machismo in a day for me.

[Soundbarviolatr]

Oy.

What a cluster kcuf. I heard death threats were even made to those that decided to cross the ALPAP imaginary picket line. Well I take it that the situation worked itself out as I hear a lot of exPAL drivers making a helluva lot more money and QOL elsewhere. Any of them relocated to a successful flying transition (airline or corporate or charter) in the US? 7-14 dwarfs found other jobs or are they still there?

Does LT own the Best Western Crew House @ SFO? I've seen the Crew shuffled from that castle looking hotel off Highway 101 to the Hyatt/Ramada to the Marriott then eventually out to BW in San Mateo where they settled for the past 8 years or so.

With all the love thats out there for him, he must have security up the kazoo when he moves.

[Glidepath2]

Desperate for Flying

Hi! Guys I am new to this forum and this is my first post as well. I am looking for a Flying Job any where around the world. I am a CPL/IR holder FAA & CAA with a single engine rating. Even willing get Multi rating with 100 hour's that make it about 450 total time. I was wondering any gentle man want to help me out for my flying job. I am a US citizen living in New Jersey. I am not intersted in CFI stuff. Is there any other way to get a Job or to build hours. I may go for type rating too if job guaranted.

Saeed Syed
[email protected]

[Skybound0210]

Anyone Qualified?

Good day fellas!

Are there any qualified pilots out there who are interested in flying heavy turbo props to build flight time? Anyway here are some of info:

Company is an FAR 121 supplemental operator with a base in Subic, Philippines. A freighter company utilizing Convair 580 type aircraft (same size and category of the YS11) that is constantly looking for Captains and First Officers for the Subic operation.

Minimum Requirements for Captains:
FAA Airline Transport Pilot License (no limitations)
1st Class Medical
1200 Total Time
500 ME Time
Turbine time preferred but not required

Minimum Requirement for First Officers:
FAA Commercial Pilot License (no limitations)
2nd Class Medical
500 Total Time
100 ME Time
Turbine Time preferred but not required

Please be reminded the above minimums are just that, minimums...so therefore ir is always a good thing to have experience above that required by the company. There are no benefits and frills...it's a straight up "you fly, we pay you" type ops. Your gonna be a freight dog...what do you expect? Anyway, salary for captain is about $2200 and $1200 for first officers.

Pinoys are definitely welcome to apply.

If you're interested, please email your resume to[email protected]

[Soundbarviolatr]

Hey Glidepath,

Type Rating: don't waste you money.
-Type rating provided that you pass the course does not do you any good with no time in type. Typically insurance is looking for 300 hours minimum. Anyone in the US that tells you otherwise should be closely looked at -- you do not want the time you log in your logbook to be the death of your career when the feds come back to audit the outfit you fly for. Also, becasue you do not have 2000 TT/400 TIT you will only get an SIC type rating.

- Time building options. If you stay in the US your best bet is to instruct as a CFI or dragging banners. Traffic watch and pipeline flying can be an option after you reach 500 hours which is typically the insurance minimum. Regionals in the US typically require 1500 TT, 300-500 ME. If you have your Bachelors Degree, the US Military has great opportunities, decent pay, the best training, and you get to fly jets and shoot down bad guys.

- Future. Because of your experience level, having the bottom of your logbook structured with Foreign ops will be frowned upon and will be questioned. I can tell you this much: If you were to interview with me with 3000 TT and 2600 SIC JET overseas, you would be beat by someone who has 3000 hours as CFI/MEI back in the states. If you care about the backbone of your knowledge and abilities, stay in the states and earn your way through. If you want a shortcut and start flying like a big boy look for airline operators overseas. Just be cognizant of what complications may arise when you come back.

-Pay. If you work for an outfit like PAL and have bills in US $, you better be prepared to sideline as a gigolo. Just look at what this thread has generated on pay intel. You will be making LESS than a CFI. But hey, at least you will be flying in a jet.

-BTW, unless you will be concentrating on a career in flying Caravans alone, get your CMEL add on.

Clear as mud?

Originally Posted by Glidepath2

Hi! Guys I am new to this forum and this is my first post as well. I am looking for a Flying Job any where around the world. I am a CPL/IR holder FAA & CAA with a single engine rating. Even willing get Multi rating with 100 hour's that make it about 450 total time. I was wondering any gentle man want to help me out for my flying job. I am a US citizen living in New Jersey. I am not intersted in CFI stuff. Is there any other way to get a Job or to build hours. I may go for type rating too if job guaranted.

Saeed Syed
[email protected]

[teeepee]

ngekkk....

[quote=Skybound0210;2841817]Good day fellas!

Are there any qualified pilots out there who are interested in flying heavy turbo props to build flight time? Anyway here are some of info:

Company is an FAR 121 supplemental operator with a base in Subic, Philippines. A freighter company utilizing Convair 580 type aircraft (same size and category of the YS11) that is constantly looking for Captains and First Officers for the Subic operation.

Minimum Requirements for Captains:
FAA Airline Transport Pilot License (no limitations)
1st Class Medical
1200 Total Time
500 ME Time
Turbine time preferred but not required

Minimum Requirement for First Officers:
FAA Commercial Pilot License (no limitations)
2nd Class Medical
500 Total Time
100 ME Time
Turbine Time preferred but not required

Please be reminded the above minimums are just that, minimums...so therefore ir is always a good thing to have experience above that required by the company. There are no benefits and frills...it's a straight up "you fly, we pay you" type ops. Your gonna be a freight dog...what do you expect? Anyway, salary for captain is about $2200 and $1200 for first officers.

Pinoys are definitely welcome to apply.

If ngekkkk who owns this airfreight co.?LT? or another company prostituting pilots with the rate...he he he go to siquijor tell the owner a lot of flyers there...

[DeltaSix]

Requirement

Originally Posted by Skybound0210

Good day fellas!
Are there any qualified pilots out there who are interested in flying heavy turbo props to build flight time? Anyway here are some of info:
Company is an FAR 121 supplemental operator with a base in Subic, Philippines. A freighter company utilizing Convair 580 type aircraft (same size and category of the YS11) that is constantly looking for Captains and First Officers for the Subic operation.
Minimum Requirements for Captains:
FAA Airline Transport Pilot License (no limitations)
1st Class Medical
1200 Total Time
500 ME Time
Turbine time preferred but not required
Minimum Requirement for First Officers:
FAA Commercial Pilot License (no limitations)
2nd Class Medical
500 Total Time
100 ME Time
Turbine Time preferred but not required
Please be reminded the above minimums are just that, minimums...so therefore ir is always a good thing to have experience above that required by the company. There are no benefits and frills...it's a straight up "you fly, we pay you" type ops. Your gonna be a freight dog...what do you expect? Anyway, salary for captain is about $2200 and $1200 for first officers.
Pinoys are definitely welcome to apply.
If you're interested, please email your resume to[email protected]

Will send my resume'

D6

[tsuper]

PAL Pay Scale

Originally Posted by Cessna1052

Pay scales in PAL are grouped in 4,this are Basic pays only:
Group 1- B744/A340/330 Captains; approx US$ 3500
Group 2- B744/A340/330 FOs and A320/737 CAPTAINS;approx US$1800
Group 3- FOs Airbus 320s/737s; approx US$1000
Group 4- SECOND OFFICERS; approx US$600-700


*Active PAL pilots, can you verify this numbers if correct-Cheers

Howdy Cessna,

You got the figures almost right. You must be in touch (chismoso hehe!!) with a lot of current PAL drivers to get that info. I am in the Group 1 pay scale and I earned approximately 2 million pesos net for the year 2005. That includes base pay, flight time pay, transportation allowance, and bonuses (2 months worth).

Divide my annual salary by 12 and convert to USD comes up to $3300. I think we have the lowest pay scale for wide-body captains here in ASIA!!!! But I hope to get a substantial pay increase next year, but not necessarily here in PAL! Thanks for the help.

[Skybound0210]

Originally Posted by teeepee

/////ngekkkk"]ngekkkk[/email] who owns this airfreight co.?LT? or another company prostituting pilots with the rate...he he he go to siquijor tell the owner a lot of flyers there...

Hahaha it's not an LT ops...the rates that you saw in my post is actually pretty good considering it's only a turbo prop (and better than some of the Jet jobs...PAL, Airphil, and Cebupac)...and besides, its not a career job, just something to get some guys to build good flight time, IFR ops experience, and to prepare them for their "dream job"...whatever that maybe.

Like I said, no frills or glamour whatsoever...just plain stick and rudder flying...and yes I literaly mean Stick n Rudder. Hahaha

So if anyone is interested, please send your resume to [email protected].