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Re: Wanna be PAL Pilot
Howdy Drahna,
If you really are interested in getting into PAL. PAL is continuously hiring pilots. I'm not sure about the minimum requirements but with your total time, I guess they'll hire you as a second officer for the B747 or A340 fleet. Your basic duties will be flying the hand microphone during cruise with no actual flying involved. You will be flying relief pilot duties for flights in exceeding 8 hours. Pay will be about $800 to $1100 per month (just a ball park figure. Not sure of real figures)
But due to numerous pilots leaving, expect a faster promotion into FO position on the A320. You can expect to move onto the A320 between 1 to 2 years. On the A320's you will be flying the planes day and night, more than you actually want to (about 85 to 100 hours a month). Then after another 3 to 4 years, you could move as a co-pilot for either the B747 or A330 and A340. If things don't change in PAL, I think you could probably make captain on the wide-body planes in 10 years.
Promotion is quite fast but expect to sign contracts and/or training agreements whenever you train for a position. Each training contract requires you to stay with PAL for five years. You will have to pay for training cost and other damages if you resign within the contract period.
Realistically, you could transfer to other airlines around asia flying right seat with just 4 years stay with PAL. But you would have to pay PAL your training costs. Pay for A320 FO in asia is about 5 times what you would get in PAL.
Teeepee is right about wide-body captain pay. It's about $3000. That's base pay plus flight play plus other allowances less 32% philippine tax.
I hope this helps. Good luck!!!!
PS. Tsuper pa rin ako ng BUS dito sa PAL!!!!!! But I hope not for long!!!!!!!
If you really are interested in getting into PAL. PAL is continuously hiring pilots. I'm not sure about the minimum requirements but with your total time, I guess they'll hire you as a second officer for the B747 or A340 fleet. Your basic duties will be flying the hand microphone during cruise with no actual flying involved. You will be flying relief pilot duties for flights in exceeding 8 hours. Pay will be about $800 to $1100 per month (just a ball park figure. Not sure of real figures)
But due to numerous pilots leaving, expect a faster promotion into FO position on the A320. You can expect to move onto the A320 between 1 to 2 years. On the A320's you will be flying the planes day and night, more than you actually want to (about 85 to 100 hours a month). Then after another 3 to 4 years, you could move as a co-pilot for either the B747 or A330 and A340. If things don't change in PAL, I think you could probably make captain on the wide-body planes in 10 years.
Promotion is quite fast but expect to sign contracts and/or training agreements whenever you train for a position. Each training contract requires you to stay with PAL for five years. You will have to pay for training cost and other damages if you resign within the contract period.
Realistically, you could transfer to other airlines around asia flying right seat with just 4 years stay with PAL. But you would have to pay PAL your training costs. Pay for A320 FO in asia is about 5 times what you would get in PAL.
Teeepee is right about wide-body captain pay. It's about $3000. That's base pay plus flight play plus other allowances less 32% philippine tax.
I hope this helps. Good luck!!!!
PS. Tsuper pa rin ako ng BUS dito sa PAL!!!!!! But I hope not for long!!!!!!!
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Thanks Tsuper!
Ok, I will send in my resume within this month.... I will definitely let you know when I hear something from PAL tsuper. I don't mind flying the mic for them 
....i was a choir at church before anyways hehehehe
Thanks a lot for the infos. I am a little bit excited now. I really would rather be flying PAL than to be flying SIC in a single angine plane. Now about that damages if i quit before the 5 years sounds scary...... I'm guessing the damages are unknown until I quit right ......but thats fine.... 5 years should go fast.... Ok thanks a lot again tsuper.
....i was a choir at church before anyways hehehehe Thanks a lot for the infos. I am a little bit excited now. I really would rather be flying PAL than to be flying SIC in a single angine plane. Now about that damages if i quit before the 5 years sounds scary...... I'm guessing the damages are unknown until I quit right
......but thats fine.... 5 years should go fast.... Ok thanks a lot again tsuper.
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hello again guys...
i went to the PAL Learning Center yesterday to submit my resume for the Av School only to find out i need a few other things (and the pic must be red background).
now i have an idea of what the training would be like. correct me if i'm wrong, but will the whole 14-16 months be in this manner?
classroom & sim Priv Pilot Training at Padre Faura -> flight Priv Pilot Training at Clark -> classroom & sim Comm Pilot Training at Padre Faura -> flight Comm Pilot Training at Clark -> graduation
i do hope that i can make it once there's an opening for the next Av School batch... there's no other alternative i can think of that's as good as PAL's Av School. (i heard the government's gonna close down PAF's cadetship program, sayang, that would have been my only plan B if my application at the Av School doesn't work out)
i went to the PAL Learning Center yesterday to submit my resume for the Av School only to find out i need a few other things (and the pic must be red background).
now i have an idea of what the training would be like. correct me if i'm wrong, but will the whole 14-16 months be in this manner?classroom & sim Priv Pilot Training at Padre Faura -> flight Priv Pilot Training at Clark -> classroom & sim Comm Pilot Training at Padre Faura -> flight Comm Pilot Training at Clark -> graduation
i do hope that i can make it once there's an opening for the next Av School batch... there's no other alternative i can think of that's as good as PAL's Av School. (i heard the government's gonna close down PAF's cadetship program, sayang, that would have been my only plan B if my application at the Av School doesn't work out)
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1970/1998 pilots stupidity
Burnett,
I am definitely not one among those dwarfs you mentioned, but isnt it time to park this issue once and for all? Its been many years now, and we all knew that somehow all those who went into that dumb strike were all at fault. WE WERE ALL STUPID TO LISTEN TO THOSE DUMB LEADERS AND PUT OURSELVES IN FRONT OF THE LINE FOR SOME PEOPLES FIGHT!!!!!!!!!
And i"ve noticed, old school ka pa rin. I would say that you're still probably sticking yourself in PAL, otherwise you could have discovered already that outside PAL this thing that you said Camaraderie or brotherhood(yabang lang ito, because you want yourself to be treated as a Senior). Di na uso sa labas ang Sir, if I were you I will resign from where you are so that you will know personally what is the kind of Pleasantries you will get from the other Airlines. From where I am, position gradients doesn't exist(if you know the meaning of this), no assholing, and no imposition of Seniorities, But their is still camaraderie that exist.
And one more thing, CAPT DEL CARMEN stated on his letter through the PALpilots group that he indeed received his RETIREMENT from PAL.(Nasaan ka noon?) Happy flying to you.!
PS. enlighten us about this DODO brotherhood you're saying, aside from calling each other Brothers?(Sharing ng putok?, easy passing on the checkrides?,protections?, knowing somebody if that somebody turns out to be an ADMIN someday? tell us please....)
C1052
I am definitely not one among those dwarfs you mentioned, but isnt it time to park this issue once and for all? Its been many years now, and we all knew that somehow all those who went into that dumb strike were all at fault. WE WERE ALL STUPID TO LISTEN TO THOSE DUMB LEADERS AND PUT OURSELVES IN FRONT OF THE LINE FOR SOME PEOPLES FIGHT!!!!!!!!!
And i"ve noticed, old school ka pa rin. I would say that you're still probably sticking yourself in PAL, otherwise you could have discovered already that outside PAL this thing that you said Camaraderie or brotherhood(yabang lang ito, because you want yourself to be treated as a Senior). Di na uso sa labas ang Sir, if I were you I will resign from where you are so that you will know personally what is the kind of Pleasantries you will get from the other Airlines. From where I am, position gradients doesn't exist(if you know the meaning of this), no assholing, and no imposition of Seniorities, But their is still camaraderie that exist.
And one more thing, CAPT DEL CARMEN stated on his letter through the PALpilots group that he indeed received his RETIREMENT from PAL.(Nasaan ka noon?) Happy flying to you.!
PS. enlighten us about this DODO brotherhood you're saying, aside from calling each other Brothers?(Sharing ng putok?, easy passing on the checkrides?,protections?, knowing somebody if that somebody turns out to be an ADMIN someday? tell us please....)
C1052
dec 1970///alpap went on strike for pay increase,improve working condition to europe,and re-instatement of two terminated avro capt.,capt.spanky nierras refused a basco flt. due wx radar was out (capt. nierras was a f27 crash survivor in lahug airport decades ago,he was one of the four survivors he was on a deadhead at the time) and capt. lito caparras charged with sexually assaulting his two f/a's in flt.(the second f/a's charged was ''assault with a dead weapon'')Mr.Toda was fuming mad on this strike and met alpap head on, pal was a mess and so with the aviation industry in P.I.,there was 285 unemployed pilots except for three who never joined the MNL BAY/BGO reclusion
(trinidad,calimag,ortiz)after a few weeks, weakness was evident avro f/o novenario volunteered to go down to manila to talk to his ninong sen.padilla to help alpap which capt. gaston acceeded, instead went straight to gate 1 and signed in, (that made him the youngest DC8 capt. then 
he, he) followed by juliano and louie lopez international vp then and so on.... (soti was a DC3 f/o just turned regular) a return to work was issued later finally, but was defied by alpap countering a ''mass resignation'' or ''protest resignation'' as capt.blood 
insisted or calls it.....again mr.toda call the move and hired the filipinas guys lotilla,mapeso,justo,reyes,virata et al (umali a flt.steward then with filipinas),air manila guys balkos,eddie reyes,aguilar,villaruel,et al..caa baquiran,amurao,and some from paf..june 1998////once again alpap went on a strike for salary adjustment,working condition etc.etc., and mainly "security of tenure"as one of the alpap director calls it,(who joined eva air during midst of the strike) due to an early retirement slapped on a330 capt.bong
"pitek" collantes after hitting 20 yrs.in service(normally senior pilots takes this option to join other airlines ie.SIA, but was used this time the other way around on collantes (on the insinuation of an alpap officer himself capt.edri laqui to atty.ocampo a pal makati lawyer in a subrosa manner on a usa flt.) ,this fellow has been an HBO or organizational behavioral problem who cannot accept a junior pilot as his chief pilot since b737 days,HE was even pulling his damn seniority to juniors grp3/4 during the strike,alpap was aware that this guy needed a stick to discipline,(as he is known 4 "pitek" for nothing),but instead tolerated him and even encouraged him to file a case against LL
in tanauan,the whole thing went messy and big nearly 600 membership suffered,some gained, (ie.the 7 dwarfs who were more or less victims of circumstances in favor,did not have much of a choice after being told of ''last in -first out''//''your time will come'' but to act fast and went back to gate1, these guys are breadwinners too..) on june 10 sunday night return to work order was out and was served in alpap around 10pm, atty. joji antonio and so with the officers was in alpap at that time, atty antonio sporting a yellow short-short pants was also hiding and evaded the sheriff. deadline for return to work order was 12june and was extended to 14june, the order was defied by alpap for reason of no return to work received, atty. antonio tried to use the meralco union trick,the irony and even WORST is everybody marched to gate1 on june24, and SIGNED in on that DAMN log book at the guard house gate1, not knowing we all returned with an 
EXPIRED return to work order.....
WHEW*#*#+*!!!!! , so C1052 was damn rt!!!... how can pilots be so stupid on a least situation... this applies to even more senior-senior pilots circa 1970, they did theirs in a greater magnitude of stupidity as wll reckon..... i certainly hope this will be enough to enlighten distortion of facts to some on how the leadership was handled and it even happened during capt.gaston's era......well, lets just all pray for a good health and be prudent next time if ever..god bless all pinoy pilots in every corner of this cruel world.....MABUHAY
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Drah Na & Paolylo
Drah Na
All the best for you. If you dont mind the very low pay as you mentioned, then go for it. But you must have a very strong stomach to work for Johnny A & Julie H. They will treat you as if they own you.
Paolylo,
You got the flow right. If I remember correctly, you are a son of a former PAL pilot? Prepare for the worst. I heard that there was a son of a former PAL pilot who applied ang got accepted in PAL AVSCH for the recently started batch. Guess waht happened? On the last minute, he was informed that PAL would not take him in. As in last minute, he was supposed to start 8AM the next day and they called him the night before to tell him the bad news. Maybe to start a rift between father & son.
All the best for you. If you dont mind the very low pay as you mentioned, then go for it. But you must have a very strong stomach to work for Johnny A & Julie H. They will treat you as if they own you.
Paolylo,
You got the flow right. If I remember correctly, you are a son of a former PAL pilot? Prepare for the worst. I heard that there was a son of a former PAL pilot who applied ang got accepted in PAL AVSCH for the recently started batch. Guess waht happened? On the last minute, he was informed that PAL would not take him in. As in last minute, he was supposed to start 8AM the next day and they called him the night before to tell him the bad news. Maybe to start a rift between father & son.
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///// yup damn rt.kangaroo court for everybody in gate1 they will throw you the "book", an expired CBA,gate1 law,or whatever they will think off para ''BUENA CARA"sa makati/// JH,JA,LL retires??? well if things will come out as planned as this new"CP"says things will be entirely different in gate1(not to mention that JH,JA,LL nursing a ''ticker problem'') matter of time ika nga ng matatanda...this new"CP" is the man to watch he goes to makati in the morning drinking if in MNL often, giving wrong lopsided info's,having coffee, rubbing elbows with executives and LT,the irony is they believe him!!! nagmamadali ang pobre for the VP position he he he (neighbor airline president knows) LL will not in any slightest chance get to any higher position as off today, this ''CP''has been shooting him down from day one after june 8,1998 and he just gained feathers on his cap as far as LT is concerned,for what reason ???,we don't know....aassh sa gate1 as ,they say in pampanga....
knows) LL will not in any slightest chance get to any higher position as off today, this ''CP''has been shooting him down from day one after june 8,1998 and he just gained feathers on his cap as far as LT is concerned,for what reason ???,we don't know....aassh sa gate1 as ,they say in pampanga....Can any of you forward this thread to them? So that they can air their bad side here? Also to make their blood boil and over load their tickers
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Julie/andrews
So, who do you think is better? LL or EG/BG? Well, it is a known fact that JA & JH is desperately trying to keep their positions for as long as they can. They have to, both of them are living like they are as rich as LT. JA's son is a drug addict in LA. Which means he still needs to support him over there. JH's son doesnt have a direction in life, therefore the same goes for him. Too much family pressure for them that they cannot handle it and releases all the steam on us pilots. It may sound bad, but I hope that their tickers stops.
Can any of you forward this thread to them? So that they can air their bad side here? Also to make their blood boil and over load their tickers
Can any of you forward this thread to them? So that they can air their bad side here? Also to make their blood boil and over load their tickers
..BUT IF LT/JIM BOTE WILL OPEN THEIR EYES WIDE OPEN NOW THE BEST BET IS CHUCK AQUINO, YOUNG,FAIR,HONEST AND GOD FEARING....
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Any info about PAL please...
If anybody here knows much about how PAL is doing right now please keep "us", "youths that wanna fly big planes with low time", informed. Is there any contract to sign if hired by PAL? If anybody can shed any info about this please.
I've been talking to my fellow pilots here and some suggests to apply with PAL but some doesn't agree with the signing of a contract. Some agree with my view point of flying SO for a few years then upgrade to FO instead of flying regional here in the US. Are SO for PAL getting at least $1500? Coz I think that's how much I'll be making incase I get a regional flying job here.
I am leaning towards applying but is there even a chance for me? How hard is it to get a job with PAL?
Well, thanks a lot for any info that you guys can share.
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////MATTER OF TIME FOR THESE GUYS, WE'VE SEEN THIS SCENARIO BEFORE, REMEMBER LIFE IS A CYCLE ITSELF ''WHAT GOES AROUND WILL **** AROUND''THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY DEARLY FOR THE MISDEEDS, SA NGAYON BG IS WAY AHEAD NAGPAPA HINOG LANG ANG KUMAG ..BUT IF LT/JIM BOTE WILL OPEN THEIR EYES WIDE OPEN NOW THE BEST BET IS CHUCK AQUINO, YOUNG,FAIR,HONEST AND GOD FEARING....
..BUT IF LT/JIM BOTE WILL OPEN THEIR EYES WIDE OPEN NOW THE BEST BET IS CHUCK AQUINO, YOUNG,FAIR,HONEST AND GOD FEARING.... Join Date: Mar 2006
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If anybody here knows much about how PAL is doing right now please keep "us", "youths that wanna fly big planes with low time", informed. Is there any contract to sign if hired by PAL? If anybody can shed any info about this please.
I've been talking to my fellow pilots here and some suggests to apply with PAL but some doesn't agree with the signing of a contract. Some agree with my view point of flying SO for a few years then upgrade to FO instead of flying regional here in the US. Are SO for PAL getting at least $1500? Coz I think that's how much I'll be making incase I get a regional flying job here.
I am leaning towards applying but is there even a chance for me? How hard is it to get a job with PAL?
Well, thanks a lot for any info that you guys can share.
The training contracts are for 5 years with a bloated cost. Every training you must sign a contract. They also have a policy now that you must give them MINIMUM of 180 days notice of resignation. With in that period they will not renew you license anymore. If you have ATPL, that's it. It will be expired by the time the 180 days are over.
If you are planning to stay with PAL for the rating and the flying hours, its good enough. Provided they change management. Or be like some of those who dont give a ***** on how they are treated.
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UH, HI mayts, what um mean LL , EG, BG etc, etc, am a bit lost here. Thanks,
gday
The "Bad" Guys
LL: Lorenzo "Koyang" Lim (PAL Av school 1976)-> AVP Flt operations
EG/BG (actually one & the same): Emmanuel "Butch" Generoso (PAL Av School 1986-> Chief Pilot A330
JA: Johnny Andrews (PAL Av school 1971)-> VP Flight Operations
JH: Julio "Julie" Hernandez (PAL Av school 1971)-> SVP Operations Group
The "Good" Guys
FC: Florendo "Chuck" Aquino III (PAF)-> Chief Pilot B747
EG Diaz: Edgardo "Ed/Egay" Diaz (PAL Av school 1988)-> Ex Chief Pilot B737, Ex Administrative Pilot A330.
Does this enlighten you Semper Fi? Maybe you can follow the story line more easily now. Hope this helps.
UH, HI mayts, what um mean LL , EG, BG etc, etc, am a bit lost here. Thanks,
gday
The "Bad" Guys
LL: Lorenzo "Koyang" Lim (PAL Av school 1976)-> AVP Flt operations
EG/BG (actually one & the same): Emmanuel "Butch" Generoso (PAL Av School 1986-> Chief Pilot A330
JA: Johnny Andrews (PAL Av school 1971)-> VP Flight Operations
JH: Julio "Julie" Hernandez (PAL Av school 1971)-> SVP Operations Group
The "Good" Guys
FC: Florendo "Chuck" Aquino III (PAF)-> Chief Pilot B747
EG Diaz: Edgardo "Ed/Egay" Diaz (PAL Av school 1988)-> Ex Chief Pilot B737, Ex Administrative Pilot A330.
Does this enlighten you Semper Fi? Maybe you can follow the story line more easily now. Hope this helps.
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UH, HI mayts, what um mean LL , EG, BG etc, etc, am a bit lost here. Thanks,
gday
The "Bad" Guys
LL: Lorenzo "Koyang" Lim (PAL Av school 1976)-> AVP Flt operations
EG/BG (actually one & the same): Emmanuel "Butch" Generoso (PAL Av School 1986-> Chief Pilot A330
JA: Johnny Andrews (PAL Av school 1971)-> VP Flight Operations
JH: Julio "Julie" Hernandez (PAL Av school 1971)-> SVP Operations Group
The "Good" Guys
FC: Florendo "Chuck" Aquino III (PAF)-> Chief Pilot B747
EG Diaz: Edgardo "Ed/Egay" Diaz (PAL Av school 1988)-> Ex Chief Pilot B737, Ex Administrative Pilot A330.
Does this enlighten you Semper Fi? Maybe you can follow the story line more easily now. Hope this helps.
UH, HI mayts, what um mean LL , EG, BG etc, etc, am a bit lost here. Thanks,
gday
The "Bad" Guys
LL: Lorenzo "Koyang" Lim (PAL Av school 1976)-> AVP Flt operations
EG/BG (actually one & the same): Emmanuel "Butch" Generoso (PAL Av School 1986-> Chief Pilot A330
JA: Johnny Andrews (PAL Av school 1971)-> VP Flight Operations
JH: Julio "Julie" Hernandez (PAL Av school 1971)-> SVP Operations Group
The "Good" Guys
FC: Florendo "Chuck" Aquino III (PAF)-> Chief Pilot B747
EG Diaz: Edgardo "Ed/Egay" Diaz (PAL Av school 1988)-> Ex Chief Pilot B737, Ex Administrative Pilot A330.
Does this enlighten you Semper Fi? Maybe you can follow the story line more easily now. Hope this helps.
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WHAT THE???? YOU JOKIN, RIGHT? I met this guy who used to be an A333 driver for you guys and he said he made something like 7000 USD. Well, based on the numbers you gave me, I think he's full of sh!t. But sitll, I find it hard to believe the current pay scale (even with the peso conversion). That's gotta be one of the lowest in the industry. How unfortunate. Now I know why you guys are ticked off!
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Management Costing
I remember that is the amount the management told the local media. To make us pilots look selfish and greedy.
Those "salaries" are based on their own corrupted computation. It includes:
1. Travel Benefits (which we cannot convert to cash if we dont use)
2. Medical Benefits (again, not convertible to cash if you dont get sick)
3. "retirement package" (that we dont have any idea how it goes because not in black & white)
4. Signing privilages in the staff canteen
5. Shuttle service form the office to the airport & back
But come to think of it, even with these things included (which is normally should not be), it still doesnt amount to USD7000. They might be hallucinating.
If only I have my PAL payslip now, I would scan and paste it here.
Those "salaries" are based on their own corrupted computation. It includes:
1. Travel Benefits (which we cannot convert to cash if we dont use)
2. Medical Benefits (again, not convertible to cash if you dont get sick)
3. "retirement package" (that we dont have any idea how it goes because not in black & white)
4. Signing privilages in the staff canteen
5. Shuttle service form the office to the airport & back
But come to think of it, even with these things included (which is normally should not be), it still doesnt amount to USD7000. They might be hallucinating.
If only I have my PAL payslip now, I would scan and paste it here.
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Hi Machten,
I ain't kidding, this is fact. I may be off by few DOLLARS, but definitely not reaching $7000 for those A333 CAPTS(not even $4000). You definitely met an aDMIN pilot, whose mission is to dissiminate false information.
Im glad im out....and i hope more will find their way to a better paying job.
Cheers
I ain't kidding, this is fact. I may be off by few DOLLARS, but definitely not reaching $7000 for those A333 CAPTS(not even $4000). You definitely met an aDMIN pilot, whose mission is to dissiminate false information.
Im glad im out....and i hope more will find their way to a better paying job.
Cheers
// mach10 must have come across with song C the little vp in gate1,he he only in their dreams as the neurotic and psychotic from makati says.7000$ was true when the $ rate was 1$ to 22php the last cba based on SIA pay scale ,time of Ted Fojas as alpap president, and Sonny Belmonte PAL President ,gen. david EVP a bunch of humans running PAL then.just like we've figured 2800$ for awide body Capt. and still deteriorating as peso plunging up to 1$ is to 100php pretty soon... the parking attendant in Las Vegas makes 4000$ easily a month without stress and not leaving the ground and eats three square meals a day.....he he he
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If anybody here knows much about how PAL is doing right now please keep "us", "youths that wanna fly big planes with low time", informed. Is there any contract to sign if hired by PAL? If anybody can shed any info about this please.
I've been talking to my fellow pilots here and some suggests to apply with PAL but some doesn't agree with the signing of a contract. Some agree with my view point of flying SO for a few years then upgrade to FO instead of flying regional here in the US. Are SO for PAL getting at least $1500? Coz I think that's how much I'll be making incase I get a regional flying job here.
I am leaning towards applying but is there even a chance for me? How hard is it to get a job with PAL?
Well, thanks a lot for any info that you guys can share.
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heheh I think sira ulo ko... Maybe one day I can prove it here once I get hired with PAL.... but is there any other place that would hire a pilot with 750 single engine total time? If incase they hire me siguro sira din ulo nila heheheh ....kinda compensates Got my resume ready to be mailed this week....wish me luck Oh if anybody knows a place where I can try to apply with 750 tt please PM me
....salamat po
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heheh I think sira ulo ko... Maybe one day I can prove it here once I get hired with PAL.... but is there any other place that would hire a pilot with 750 single engine total time? If incase they hire me siguro sira din ulo nila heheheh ....kinda compensates Got my resume ready to be mailed this week....wish me luck Oh if anybody knows a place where I can try to apply with 750 tt please PM me
....salamat poDrahNa,
You kill me
..... I was laughing so hard I nearly fell off my chair.At least you guys see the lighter side of this..... continue.
D6
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hehehe
I'm serious man hehehe.... i guess if they hire me with 750 tt and let me sit in that plane and even upgrade me later then maybe we'll get even...
Desperate times calls for desperate measure.....
I am very open to any suggestions you guys have... I know you guys have been thru a lot and can give some really good advices.... Please give me some good ones here.... Thank you. PMs are very much welcomed!!!
maybe if i keep banging my head enough then maybe I wont even have to go through an interview hehehe (kasi basag na ulo ko, more than sira ) *wink *wink D6 hehehe any good advice D6? salamat