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Old 15th Feb 2010, 14:42
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No more hijacking.

There is no point talking to the traitors
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No more hijacking.
There is no point talking to the traitors
You are twenty and young, my friend you don't have to beg for what you want.
Don't call people traitors just because you don't like their ideas. Try to understand why they are saying what they are saying.

There are so many characteristics which make a good pilot, and so far I have't found a single one of them which is not a characteristic of a good human being.

Receive the world with open mind and arms.
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Old 15th Feb 2010, 15:47
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@silver-
r u just plain stupid dude or is sum1 paying u 2 come up here every 2 posts nd write ****?
"Traitors"- dude do u even have one third of an idea of wat the word means .
I beg u dude , pl stop being such a . What r u so insecure about , if u recieved proper training , have d audacity 2 fight it out fair nd square wid all the deserving guys otherwise shut up!
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Old 15th Feb 2010, 17:26
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Back to the topic.

There is atleast one airline in India that is hiring expats for FO positions too.

If you see the website of Kingfisher, in the careers section under "Operations", you'll see that they are recruiting Expats for FO positions on A330/40, A320, and the ATR.

A330 :
Expat Pilots -A330/340

A320 :
Expat Pilots - A320 - TRE, TRI, TLC,TFO.

ATR :
Expat Pilots -ATR
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Old 15th Feb 2010, 18:17
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@ Silver Raptor,
There is no point talking to the traitors
Traitors - Wrong word.....

I'd say, There is no point talking to YOU!

Short and simple, aint it?.........At least a punctuation to an otherwise very very futile cause!

@ Shanx,
Back to the Thread now!
Why would KF ask for Expat A320 TFO, when their current crop of Online-FOs are averaging barely about 3 sectors a month?`

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Old 15th Feb 2010, 23:50
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@shanx and Optimus Prime,

The waiting pool at Kingfisher has no more than the 200 - 250 hours required for CPL. Where as the website is asking for guys who have 1000 Hours total and 200 Hours on type.

Kingfisher might take these guys on terms of agreement to taking ATR Captain position after the requirement. And the only possible reason in sight is the 100's of Kingfisher Senior Co-Pilots Leaving the company in the recent past.
Why is that so ? That's a completely different argument and we have had enough arguments for now.

But I do not think any one with 200 Hours on the ATR (Expat) is Jobless.
Turbo-Props are the Machines for now. (Third argument can be triggered)

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Old 16th Feb 2010, 03:15
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To Shanx and the rest of the guys,

How is it that KF is advertising for expact FOs? I thought by June 2010, all the expacts including captains are to leave?

I did my Indian medical with AFCME in 2007. I thought the medical standards were not that different to CASA or CAA NZ medical standards. Just the usual stuff - sight, hearing, EEG, ECG, Blood and urine test and general physical exam.
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Old 16th Feb 2010, 03:30
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To Shanx and the rest of the guys,

How is it that KF is advertising for expact FOs? I thought by June 2010, all the expacts including captains are to leave?

I did my Indian medical with AFCME in 2007. I thought the medical standards were not that different to CASA or CAA NZ medical standards. Just the usual stuff - sight, hearing, EEG, ECG, Blood and urine test and general physical exam.

I guess that July 2010 deadline has already been extended, but don't have any authoritative information on that.

Medical standards followed in India are as laid down by ICAO, but most of the Indian pilots doubt the zeal by which the Air Force Medicine personnel implement these standards. The pilot community doubts that they are being subjected to much higher non-documented standards. Which to me at least seems to be the case.
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Old 16th Feb 2010, 11:27
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The expat phasing out deadline has been extended by a year!!!
it was never gonna work dis way , that was gnna be 2 hard on the companies 2 replace even a third of their expat captains by june2010
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@A340AM,

the extension of the Expat Pilot deadline is largely speculative(I doubt whether anything to that regard has been officially issued by the DGCA?)

But anyways, I suppose the Deadline wasnt issued in Jan'2010...It was well in place a long while back....but the carriers never did anything about it, did they?...In turn they started scrambling for excuses at the 11th hour!

I hope I'm not wrong in saying this....But there is no dearth of experience in the country and if everything would have moved as per plan(IF),things would have been different!

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Old 16th Feb 2010, 15:36
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@optimus .prime- dude i agree wid u totally . But unfortuntaly the dgca doesnt think the way we do.
nyways umm bout the deadline , well i wudnt be quoting anyone but i do know several hotshots( unfortunately none close enough 2 be able 2 personally help me ) but they say this !!!!nd sumhow my gut feeling says this is what has happened
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Old 17th Feb 2010, 14:30
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Too add to all this discussion, here's some news for technicians and pilots.
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Hi,
Could you please let me know..which books should i read for written examinations.
i took my ground classes from surinder...so i read his notes to cover the dgca syllabus...
but i have been told that i should have complete knowledge of jet engines and aerodyanamics...so which books should i consult for that.
And I am specifically looking for question banks for the dgca and the rest of the topics...so that i can test myself....
any help is greatly appreciated...
thank you
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Old 20th Feb 2010, 06:27
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@appugre

Yes, it is very important to have good knowledge about Jet Engines and Aerodynamics or as some would prefer to call it Principles of Flight.

The Jeppesen JAA ATPL books are very good for the above subjects. The topics are explained very well. They are very lengthy though. For the Q banks also there are some JAA Q banks available. Try and get those they are very good.
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Old 20th Feb 2010, 17:12
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thanku so much ...i will surely look into it...and please tell me about the Qbanks for the DGCA syllabus like met,nav,radio aid,instruments, etc.
Where could I get these books from I mean are they like easily available do i have to go to delhi to get them..
Thank you
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@apoorv

no problem dude... you said you attended surinders ground clases and I heard his Q banks are really good.. if you know any one who has attended wng.cdr butti's classes try to get his Q banks those are also pretty good.. btw where are you from and have cleared your DGCA papers?
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Old 21st Feb 2010, 07:18
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yup surinders Q banks are good but I am not sure the answers of the questions are rite coz he never really took interest in that i think you are right he has alot of questions in question bank...Yup i have my indian License.I am from chandigarh what about you?
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Hi .. I don;t know about KF but I am pretty sure that according to the new rule of DGCA all FOs have to be nationals.
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Old 21st Feb 2010, 07:29
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@glapira4S-even i dont think any indian carrier would be hiring expat FO's as a large no are sitting idle in the country ,they are hiring expat captains though...@Appugre i found buti's notes to be the best..they have everything that to need to crack dgca exams,helped me crack all the exams in one go....try and look into them....
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Old 22nd Feb 2010, 04:21
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This is what I stumbled upon in today's TOI

Low-cost airlines plan fleet expansion, step up hiring
Saurabh Sinha | TNN

New Delhi: Thanks to the economic revival, the Indian aviation industry has taken off again, overcoming fears of being grounded for long by the threat posed by last year’s slowdown. The massive growth in past two months, led by December’s record figure of 33% and January’s 23%, has led to airlines again looking at expanding their fleet and stepping up on the hiring front.
The decline in passenger numbers started reversing from last July. With the turnaround in mid-2009, the last six months of the year saw a huge jump in the number of domestic fliers, finally boosting the tally to 445 lakh, 8% higher than 2008. More importantly, it reversed the 5% negative growth in 2008.
This change in fortunes has led aviation minister Praful Patel to say that the worst for the aviation sector is over. “We are cautiously optimistic. If this trend continues, most airlines can expect to come out of red and ensure that India has good connectivity,” he said recently. The ‘cautiousness’ stems from the poor financial health of big airlines like the Air India-Indian Airlines combine and Kingfisher.
The hope obviously comes from the LCC model that has emerged as the way India will fly in future. Budget carriers are very upbeat. The biggest Indian LCC, IndiGo, is looking at hiring 1,000 people — 100 pilots, 400 cabin crew and rest passenger service staff — this year. “Our current fleet size is 24 and this number will go up to 34 by year-end. IndiGo has 2,500 employees and the ongoing recruitment process will aim at hiring about 50-70% fresh inexperienced cabin crew and airport staff who got trained but did not get a job during the slowdown,” Indi-Go president Aditya Ghosh said.
SpiceJet is also on a hiring spree as its fleet size will rise from 19 to 25 by year-end. The airline will also qualify for flying abroad this summer. It is now in the process of raising money to fund the expansion plan. Kingfisher chief Vijay Mallya has also said the airline may add planes to its fleet while announcing his new international flights recently.
Taking Off
IndiGo is looking at hiring 100 pilots, 400 cabin crew and 500 passenger service staff. It will also increase its fleet size to 34 from 24 by this year-end SpiceJet is also on a hiring spree as its fleet size will rise from 19 to 25 by year-end Revival brings cheers to airport operators
New Delhi: The revival is good news for airport operators, both private and state-run Airports Authority of India (AAI), which are implementing modernisation projects worth thousands of crores. The slowdown had led to such a situation that private developers said they would not be able to continue work in places like Delhi and Mumbai and a fee was levied on outbound passengers. As a result, for the first time, the government had to allow passenger fees on old airports in these two places to fund construction of new facilities.
AAI chairman V P Agrawal said: "We are developing airports at huge costs on the basis
of certain traffic growth projections. The slowdown in travel over the past two years was threatening to make those projections look unrealistic. Now that domestic travel is on the upsurge, air travellers will find newer and better airports ready across the country. Our revenue flow from both aeronautical stream and city side development is looking up and will help funding of the projects and their timely completion."
Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation (India) head Kapil Kaul predicts that airlines are now entering a long-term high growth phase which should see many of them going profitable next fiscal. "No one could have predicted the kind of sudden revival of traffic we are witnessing now. Everyone, including airlines, has been taken by surprise," Kaul said.
The Airport Economic Regulatory Authority (AERA) is trying to ascertain a fairly scientific model of traffic growth projection that would help in 'fair' determination of airport charges for airlines and user fee for passengers. "Airport developers are getting good amounts for their city side or non-aero projects. We will be reviewing the user fee at airports on the basis of their actual costs and new revenue projections," said a senior AERA official.


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Old 22nd Feb 2010, 04:52
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Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation (India) head Kapil Kaul predicts that airlines are now entering a long-term high growth phase which should see many of them going profitable next fiscal. "No one could have predicted the kind of sudden revival of traffic we are witnessing now. Everyone, including airlines, has been taken by surprise," Kaul said.

Ever wonder why most of these rosy predictions come from CAPA?
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