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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Old 27th Oct 2011, 13:25
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Well said soundbite. I am not with Cathay or ever likely to be, but I am fed up with ChinaBeached and his cohorts talking b*****ks on this forum trying to put people off joining. It's pathetic. I've given up on reasoned argument, so I'm simply going to follow him around the forums winding him up. He'll claim it's not working, but I bet it is.
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Old 27th Oct 2011, 15:10
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....integrity and respect. They are NOT the views of a happy Cathay employee....
You're right. So very, very right!

Where did I convince myself I did Fly_boy a favour? I pointed out FACTS that you know nothing of. He made his own mind up like a big boy. Try it. He'll be in a FAR better professional postion as any iCadet will be in 5 years and either a jet FO or Capt in 10-15 years. A hell of a lot faster than a CX iCadet, by then on better money than a CX iCadet and fulfilling a dream that didn't involve screwing over the industry or colleagues. The guy will earn respect. The likes of you can never by what you believe is OK to do.

chip on his shoulder
Never denied it. I worked & studied my ar$e off for >4000 hrs to earn the right to dream of a CX interview only to see it stolen away by shear greed defended by ignorant, arrogant, self-deserving brats who as yet haven't had their pituitary gland spark up yet. So when reading what naive and pathetic kids type on this forum of "GA is too hard" and self righteous attitudes that slap the face of pilots who stand for something, it pi$$es most off. Your breed is slur on aviation and will never, can ever be a credit. You bring the industry down and not up. They are FACTS.

You simply didn't cut the mustard, China
How do you figure? I passed the CX interview, sim and selection criteria that was to a FAR, FAR, FAR higher standard than "So what do your parents think of you wanting to be a pilot?" [actual question asked to some iCadet applicants]. Again, I was offered the job twice and can sleep at night in that I turned it down twice. I have done, did and am doing what you want to do. Soundbite, your greatest challenge or achievement has been in locating your HSC. Wow.

You haven't lived in Hong Kong, you haven't worked for the company, and you haven't gone through the entire hiring process
a) How would you know? How do you know where I'm sitting RIGHT NOW? (hint, google Oo La, Sheung Wan)
b) Is it that obvious when I said I turned down the offer (twice) that you computed I don't work for CX? Watch out for that IQ test at CX.....
c) So I turned down the offer to work for CX that was offered me having passed the interview that you say I didn't do? No wonder you lost your HSC.....

Let qualified people post here
See, that's a tricky one. By "qualified" do you mean the CX definition of zero experience, zero aviation credentials, zero knowledge or zero backbone? Or the "qualified" definition of those who have studied, sat and passed the entire CX interview process, know HK, knows CX as an airline and culture, knows the iCadet package & complete T&C's, & with international widebody airline experience? You'll have to dig deeper on that "qualified" terminology because when that term is so putrid and muddied by sell-outs and corporate greed digging to determine new lows, things get confusing for kids like you & your new bed-pal when sprouting a term that you have no idea about.

but I am fed up with ChinaBeached and his cohorts talking b*****ks on this forum trying to put people off joining.
Then don't ask your stupid, ignorant and childish questions. Then when you get the answers you asked for but they upset your self righteous, self deserving needs & pre conceived ideas, you throw your toys from the cot (or PS2 at the wall), & seek an argument by attempting to use a word alien to you: "qualified".

Live in the present
I am!! I just bought an (investment) holiday apartment in Bali with the money I earn as a professional pilot!!! I'd like to share the experience & joy with you, but that would be mean as it is something you'll never get to enjoy to do on an iCadet salary. This "now" is GREAT! Hell, you'll be lucky to afford a 600 sq ft apartment in HK after 15-20 of shear saving if calculating CPI, the iCadet salary, allowances, etc. Yep... This really is a good feeling...!!!!!

"Bollocks"? Strong word! I see your parents disabled the kiddy protections on the computer.... Anyway, find but ONE of mine or other people's arguments about the iCadet package, standards, T&C's that are "bollocks" as you say. You kids come back with nothing but empty denials and empty accusations that we're all wrong and you with your "qualified" comments are right. Again, you're just the stooge that CX wants and attracts. So, join. Enjoy. But NEVER complain about the job you asked for nor the disdain the wider pilot body has for the likes of you.

Follow me around? Have fun. Most kids in your situation would be either seeking a job flying, studying or working. You choose the internet to blow your nose on. Smart. But again, CX will take you when you haven't even the balls to study for your ATPL/ATP that GA or regional operators require.

Join CX. Up to you. Just reep what you sow and don't be surprised by the number of pilots you meet who will walk away once you meet them. It happens now.
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Old 27th Oct 2011, 15:23
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Kid? Ha ha, you're a dick ChinaBeached. That's a fact!!!
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Old 27th Oct 2011, 16:07
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I know, right?

Isn't it clever how he segments my quotes to sound like I'm agreeing with him? I feel sorry for him, I really do.
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Old 27th Oct 2011, 23:37
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Stevop21: true.

These two clowns with their newly formed alliance seek to discredit the arguments and points of view from people with first hand experience & knowledge, etc of the questions they seek answers to. When they don't get them in either the form or result they need they wish to argue, but without a standpoint or supportable opinion. They argue from what point of view? From what facts? Saying "You're wrong" or "I disagree" without backing it up is useless, but more over petty & infantile. Again, it shows the level of CX iCadet wannabe.

They make accusations about me that they see as reevaluations: "I don't even think he works for CX!". That just shows their level of research and how much they've read of this thread before engaging foot-in-mouth.

I have been shown on a few occasions where I've been wrong on this forum by people like "voice of reason", & have readily admitted as well as thanked him for it. Anything that contributes to the better understanding is beneficial for both sides of the equation. But these idiots put forward zero argument & zero facts to defend their standpoint of just wishing people like me would stop trying to stop others from join CX.

This forum is about people asking questions, points of view being swapped and opinions shared. I am completely guilty for letting my disdain be shown for the new breed of despicable lows CX has sunk to - no denial - as well as the type of spineless character who defends them and seeks to contribute to it. I back it up with reason and facts. It is the people that haven't the fortitude, knowledge or just simple reasoning to defend their argument that brings any argument down to a gutter.

Ask questions. Have a lively debate but do it from a position where it can be defended. Otherwise the only thing shown is ignorance and naivety.
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 00:14
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...points of view from people with first hand experience & knowledge, etc...
Let's be clear here China. YOU DON'T WORK FOR THE COMPANY!!! People are asking for advice from the inside. What makes you think you're eligible? Anyone who listens to you needs to have their head examined.

Stevop21 tried to get the train back on track, and all you did was acknowledge him with one word and continue your rant. Tell me who's despicable?

I'm going to look elsewhere for my info, this thread has all but dried up and I've lost interest with the likes of ChinaBeached hovering around like a dirty smell. Thank heavens there are people like him in the world to make the rest of us look good.
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 01:15
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People are asking for advice from the inside...

My friend the problem is you guys don't listen to people who are INSIDE...its been said over and over...Be careful what your getting into...Good luck with ever you decide to do...its your life...But Please guys don't be shocked to see next yr when CX start hiring DEFO...than your upgrade to JFO will be 6+ yrs...All the best.
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 03:20
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The 2011 System?

so after reading the interview guidelines from Pilot Aptitude Training Systems: Cathay Pacific, it seems like there are 4 stages in the interview


However, in previous posts, I see people mentioning about interviews 1a, and 1b!

Are there two parts to the first interview? And if so, what do you do in the first interview? (1A)

Thanks so much!
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 08:42
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People ask questions, and some people answer them honestly. That is appreciated. ChinaBeached however is a self serving arse hole who likes the sound of his own voice. He likes explaining what words mean. Does he know what dobber means?
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 09:51
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I answered them honestly, as do many others. Your type just don't like the honest answers you receive.

You think I like the sound of my own voice? HA! Boat, you started a thread that went for 8 posts and FOUR of the posts were by YOU! (I'll help you out: 50%!!!)
(http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...ml#post4473130)

Many others on the same side have posted far more on this thread than me but all mostly with a similar opinion. You just don't like the confrontation of being told to back up your ignorant & naive beliefs by someone like me. Nor my open undeniable dislike for what a slur on aviation this CEP is and for those defending it.

Self serving? (A bit of laughter, yes....) Moreover, it's a disgrace what the likes of you defend as justifiable.

No, don't know what a dobber is by your definition. Don't care. If it is as screwed up as your definition of "integrity" and "qualifications" then it really is of no use bothering. But I will guarantee and bet it is a some UK military term you good 'ole chaps use in relation to buggering?

As yet you've offered not one statement to back up but one of your denials or comments. Not one. You've thrown a few choice names my way as your means of argument, but that's about it.

Questions are asked about the CX interview process, the company structure, the iCadet contract, the money, allowances, and so on.... ALL of which I have first hand experience of as a successful candidate. But again, you just want to pick & choose the answers that suit.

Stick to trying to define your own allowances and knowledge of your "JSP 752" that you admit are too difficult for you to understand. (I had a read & can see where the lack of pictures had you lost. And no, I won't do your homework for you). The CX iCadet scheme is far easier but probably precisely the same rear guard buggering that the UK military provides. It's right up your ally:- literally.
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 09:59
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...and ChinaBeached WINS
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 10:43
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Anyone got any info on next round of Australian interviews and the experience of those getting interviews?
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 10:57
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Ha ha, bite. Prick.
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 11:51
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@ The Boat... as I current CX pilot I never want to share a flight deck with you; I rather have CB with me on board.

You need to learn how to listen - an attribute every CX pilot needs to have before joining otherwise you will not make it far in this company...
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 12:27
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AQIS that won't be a problem, I can assure you!!!
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 12:32
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Oh dear Dan Buster! When attempting to suggest someone is low calibre perhaps you should spell it correctly!
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 12:52
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Ha ha, fair enough.
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 21:11
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ChinaB, Capt and Dan have presented a side of the argument that you don't hear of too often. Most people including myself are too happy to say we got a job with Cathay.

The reason I can afford to not bother with CX is because I have another offer with better pay package. Most guys here don't have that luxury. For most people something is better than nothing. If I was in that position, an offer from CX would be more like everything or nothing.
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Old 28th Oct 2011, 23:34
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Chinabeached: Am I correct in assuming you work for Cathay? I am assuming you do by your previous posts, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

I can understand that you are giving your thoughts on the Cadet scheme and that of course you think it is a blight on the industry so to speak.

What I can't understand is the level of distaste that you have for it and the cadets who choose to follow this path?

Maybe you could elaborate on why you feel so strongly about this subject matter? I for one hope that you do not take with you to the flight deck the bitterness you bring to this forum. It would be completely unproffesional, in bad taste and quite frankly rude and arrogant. But I'm sure you wouldn't, you dont have the veil of anonymity up the front that you have sitting in Oo Laa all by yourself posting on PPRune.

In regards to the amount of money you will take home or how long you will be an SO for etc. It all is COMPLETELY dependant on your current circumstances! If you are in your thirties with children and currently a lawyer earning tons of cash, then it is quite possible this may be detrimental to your finances. However if you want to fly then do it, and just understand the risks. If you are a twenty two year old with no long term partner or dependants, then hell this could be a great opportunity for you.

Case by case basis...
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 03:35
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Transition Training Stage 1 Interview

More info for guys going on TT and I am not sure if it applies to the Advanced (30 weeks guys) too.

The interview process consists of two stages: initial and final.

Initial consists of a multiple choice tech quiz (ATPL level) and an interview (general and tech).

Stage two consists of a similar interview, a group exercise, computer based testing, medical and sim training (45 mins each) and sim assessment in the classic.

Anyone who may have done the ATPL level tech MCQ pls provide info if possible and any guys done the sim check yet??

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