Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme
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Confused by the email
Hey all, I have been reading through the older posts.
I applied for the Cathay S/O in June( I have CPL/ ME-CIR ICAO-CASA) , and they replied 2 days ago with the following email :
"Dear Mr. Sharara,
Thank you for your interest in the Second Officer Programme.
The initial interviews will be arranged in the major cities in which the flights of Cathay Pacific operate, subject to the sufficiency of eligible candidates in the same geographic areas.
At the moment, we are unable to advise you when the next schedule of interviews will take place in your preferred location in near future.
We will keep you informed of the application status after it is confirmed."
My preferred location is dubai.
Can anyone explain if like my online application is accepted ?
Or does it mean that they are still looking on my online application ??
I replied that it doesnt matter for me flying into any country to do the stage 1 interview...
Thanks guys !
Hope we all get a flying job
I applied for the Cathay S/O in June( I have CPL/ ME-CIR ICAO-CASA) , and they replied 2 days ago with the following email :
"Dear Mr. Sharara,
Thank you for your interest in the Second Officer Programme.
The initial interviews will be arranged in the major cities in which the flights of Cathay Pacific operate, subject to the sufficiency of eligible candidates in the same geographic areas.
At the moment, we are unable to advise you when the next schedule of interviews will take place in your preferred location in near future.
We will keep you informed of the application status after it is confirmed."
My preferred location is dubai.
Can anyone explain if like my online application is accepted ?
Or does it mean that they are still looking on my online application ??
I replied that it doesnt matter for me flying into any country to do the stage 1 interview...
Thanks guys !
Hope we all get a flying job
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Yes cpt.underpants i am think of ways that people can use CX as the "means to an end" like this unfortune instructors who is messed by CX they can escape also. People we have to think outside of boxes to make things works our way, this is just my thought.
Ok Dan buster and captain f@rt how did you managed to get past this pprune security verification when signing up your accounts? I am think that it stops computers to make fake accounts... you must be the super advanced computer!! yes how does THAT feel? we insulted the computer bots like you and "smarter child" on msn.
Ok i am only kidding but this point i try to making is its not nice to be-little others based on cultural different!! you are the pilot i hope to be so act like it and stop making fun!!! be professional. ok please! look at cpt.underpants now that is the pilot i am very hope to be!
Hamid 27 friend i have the stage 1 around your time in HK!! it is different thing but if you still wanted to exchanged notes personal message me. Ok good luck!
Ok Dan buster and captain f@rt how did you managed to get past this pprune security verification when signing up your accounts? I am think that it stops computers to make fake accounts... you must be the super advanced computer!! yes how does THAT feel? we insulted the computer bots like you and "smarter child" on msn.
Ok i am only kidding but this point i try to making is its not nice to be-little others based on cultural different!! you are the pilot i hope to be so act like it and stop making fun!!! be professional. ok please! look at cpt.underpants now that is the pilot i am very hope to be!
Hamid 27 friend i have the stage 1 around your time in HK!! it is different thing but if you still wanted to exchanged notes personal message me. Ok good luck!
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greetings evrybody :)
A warm Hello to one and all!
Just had a query regarding the cadet pilot programme, selection process;
1. Do they also accept invites/ call the applicant only from HK or is it for anybody with requirements mentioned as on their website?
2. WHich venue should be chosen so as to get a call for 1st round ? I applied couple of months ago, yet no response or call -mail!
3. how are the rounds in terms of difficulty? cold anybody offer comparisons? for e.g.- comparing with SIA or anyother anybody must have attended?
I appreciate all positive responses will be made soon.
Thanks in advance,
Just had a query regarding the cadet pilot programme, selection process;
1. Do they also accept invites/ call the applicant only from HK or is it for anybody with requirements mentioned as on their website?
2. WHich venue should be chosen so as to get a call for 1st round ? I applied couple of months ago, yet no response or call -mail!
3. how are the rounds in terms of difficulty? cold anybody offer comparisons? for e.g.- comparing with SIA or anyother anybody must have attended?
I appreciate all positive responses will be made soon.
Thanks in advance,
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I apologize for getting slightly off topic.
I know it is a forum, but the amount of sarcasm and the bitterness in some of the posts coming from users claiming to be Cathay pilots, is worrying sign already.
You are diminishing your company in every thread there is in this forum.
You are constantly complaining about management, cabin crew, HR and who knows what I have missed.
If you are willing to talk trash about your company, do something about it or get one step further and go for other greener pastures!
There are a lot of opportunities out there and you seem to spot and point them... to other pilots, of course.
Now, about the program. The package is insufficient, but using arguments such as "Consider your health, pollution is awful... etc", coming from people that made that choice in the past and continue to live in HK with their families is at least...funny!
Good day
I know it is a forum, but the amount of sarcasm and the bitterness in some of the posts coming from users claiming to be Cathay pilots, is worrying sign already.
You are diminishing your company in every thread there is in this forum.
You are constantly complaining about management, cabin crew, HR and who knows what I have missed.
If you are willing to talk trash about your company, do something about it or get one step further and go for other greener pastures!
There are a lot of opportunities out there and you seem to spot and point them... to other pilots, of course.
Now, about the program. The package is insufficient, but using arguments such as "Consider your health, pollution is awful... etc", coming from people that made that choice in the past and continue to live in HK with their families is at least...funny!
Good day
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The point that is being missed is the people pointing out that this is a terrible package and not worth moving to Hong Kong for are on a far better package. They are advising against this new deal as it is, quite frankly, crap. If I got only the new HKPA I would leave, no question about it, not even one thought, I would walk into work tomorrow, hand in my notice and then call in sick for 3 months.
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As long as there is a healthy supply of young men and women who have aspirations to fly, these “ab initio” schemes or programs for low time pilots will always have “insufficient” compensation packages. It is just the basic law of supply and demand. Here in the US, most people would be surprised to find that a regional pilot makes less than $20K USD / YR for first couple of years as an F/O (not much more thereafter). In many Asian carriers, these cadet training programs for their “national” pilots, pay little and come with a bond that can be well over a decade. China Airlines (Taiwan) for example, not long ago had a recruitment drive for Taiwanese national for their cadet pilot program. It pays NT $100,000/mo (about $3,300 USD a month) and there is a 12 year contract I believe. Taiwan my understanding can be somewhat of an expensive place to live especially with the housing boom most Asian cities seem to have experienced in the recent years. It is my understanding even well respected airlines like SIA or MAS pretty much have similar terms like that of China Airlines.
In reality, there will always be a large supply of people with the misconception that a career of an airline pilot is “glamorous” as it once was. There will always be someone who will be willing to take an entry position even if the pay is low and the terms are advantageous to the employer. Better yet, there will always be a good supply of people who are willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars to an airline just to fly in the right seat.
If anyone can find a “well” paying job with “excellent” benefits for low time pilots, please let me know.
In reality, there will always be a large supply of people with the misconception that a career of an airline pilot is “glamorous” as it once was. There will always be someone who will be willing to take an entry position even if the pay is low and the terms are advantageous to the employer. Better yet, there will always be a good supply of people who are willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars to an airline just to fly in the right seat.
If anyone can find a “well” paying job with “excellent” benefits for low time pilots, please let me know.
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Well you could always work hard and earn that well paying job....like the rest of us did before you! ohhh that might be hard though
Why should any carrier pay good money for no-experience pilots? The problem is that management seems to feel that experience is not worth anything, hence the reason why almost no-one with experience accepted the current cadet deal.
Why should any carrier pay good money for no-experience pilots? The problem is that management seems to feel that experience is not worth anything, hence the reason why almost no-one with experience accepted the current cadet deal.
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“Well you could always work hard and earn that well paying job....like the rest of us did before you! ohhh that might be hard though
Why should any carrier pay good money for no-experience pilots? The problem is that management seems to feel that experience is not worth anything, hence the reason why almost no-one with experience accepted the current cadet deal. ”
Uuugh, yeah FYI, I do have a very well paying job, just not as a pilot or in aviation. One of the reasons why I didn't go the airline pilot route after graduating from Embry-Riddle was how little, airlines (regionals in particular) paid their pilots and how little “progression” there seemed to be (plus 9/11 didn’t help either) due to the whole seniority structure implemented at most US carriers. Hence I got an MBA from a respected AACSB accredited university and have been working in IT/ERP sales ever since. I know I travel much less than an airline pilot (get to be with family more so than my friends who went to become pilots, many are still regional pilots I might add) and have much more freedom and flexibility to do what I want, when I want. It amazed me for the longest time, seeing how my pilot friends struggled. While I was driving a brand new bimmer, they were still driving the same old beater they had in college. While I wined and dined on company expense with clients my friends are at some pilot’s lounge at some airport eating fast food or some snacks left over from a flight they were just on.
I don’t think most aspiring pilots realize how difficult it is to succeed in this profession. It is a long and challenging road and there are other paths you can take to make the big bucks (and probably not struggle as hard). Like I said before, as long as there are individuals who think being an airline pilot is “glamorous” there will always be a large pool of candidates (even ones with some experience like low time CPL" who are willing to take any “inadequate” compensation package and live the life of a “ramen noodle” budge.
Why should any carrier pay good money for no-experience pilots? The problem is that management seems to feel that experience is not worth anything, hence the reason why almost no-one with experience accepted the current cadet deal. ”
Uuugh, yeah FYI, I do have a very well paying job, just not as a pilot or in aviation. One of the reasons why I didn't go the airline pilot route after graduating from Embry-Riddle was how little, airlines (regionals in particular) paid their pilots and how little “progression” there seemed to be (plus 9/11 didn’t help either) due to the whole seniority structure implemented at most US carriers. Hence I got an MBA from a respected AACSB accredited university and have been working in IT/ERP sales ever since. I know I travel much less than an airline pilot (get to be with family more so than my friends who went to become pilots, many are still regional pilots I might add) and have much more freedom and flexibility to do what I want, when I want. It amazed me for the longest time, seeing how my pilot friends struggled. While I was driving a brand new bimmer, they were still driving the same old beater they had in college. While I wined and dined on company expense with clients my friends are at some pilot’s lounge at some airport eating fast food or some snacks left over from a flight they were just on.
I don’t think most aspiring pilots realize how difficult it is to succeed in this profession. It is a long and challenging road and there are other paths you can take to make the big bucks (and probably not struggle as hard). Like I said before, as long as there are individuals who think being an airline pilot is “glamorous” there will always be a large pool of candidates (even ones with some experience like low time CPL" who are willing to take any “inadequate” compensation package and live the life of a “ramen noodle” budge.
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I'm a current university student in Canada. I have a few questions regarding entry into the 61 week cadet program
1. Is it mandatory to have previous flight experience or technical knowledge in order to get accepeted.
2. Do you have to be a Hong Kong Citizen
3. What is the application process and interview process like
4. Do you have to pass a class 1 medical exam before applying
5. Would age make a difference in getting accepted?
1. Is it mandatory to have previous flight experience or technical knowledge in order to get accepeted.
2. Do you have to be a Hong Kong Citizen
3. What is the application process and interview process like
4. Do you have to pass a class 1 medical exam before applying
5. Would age make a difference in getting accepted?
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Ok friends can i asked where is this training for cathay second officers done for airbuses and boeings assigned S/O does this cathay second officers assigned to the airbuses go to paris for airbus schools? 
(i am love paris!!!!). i am simply asked this because i told some airlines do the airbuses training in paris. i not told about training for boeings. ok thanks
also friends i am read the 49ers book and i am amaze at how much cathay is evil to the pilots!! i am hoped things have changed in cathay it is my dreams to fly for them. cross the fingers they dont asked me about 49ers in the stages 1 interviews
also again friends. i am graduate at university end of this year and if i pass my stages 1 interviews next month, i am not want to study stage 2 during exams do i told cathay in my stages 1 interviews that i am want to "defer" my stages 2 to when i am finish graduating. please help guys. ok thanks again.
ok can i also added 2 more things! it is true that the cathay are changed the contracts of pilots as they wants???? and it is also true that sometimes the cathay have deliberately "found some issues" in the checks to delay pilots upgrading just to reduce costs of paying this promoted pilot????
I AM HOPE THIS IS NOT TRUE!! ok thanks
(i am love paris!!!!). i am simply asked this because i told some airlines do the airbuses training in paris. i not told about training for boeings. ok thanks also friends i am read the 49ers book and i am amaze at how much cathay is evil to the pilots!! i am hoped things have changed in cathay it is my dreams to fly for them. cross the fingers they dont asked me about 49ers in the stages 1 interviews
also again friends. i am graduate at university end of this year and if i pass my stages 1 interviews next month, i am not want to study stage 2 during exams do i told cathay in my stages 1 interviews that i am want to "defer" my stages 2 to when i am finish graduating. please help guys. ok thanks again.
ok can i also added 2 more things! it is true that the cathay are changed the contracts of pilots as they wants???? and it is also true that sometimes the cathay have deliberately "found some issues" in the checks to delay pilots upgrading just to reduce costs of paying this promoted pilot????
I AM HOPE THIS IS NOT TRUE!! ok thanks
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Well you could always work hard and earn that well paying job....like the rest of us did before you! ohhh that might be hard though
Maybe you were slogging it out bush somewhere while you tried to do your ATPLs. . . We also had to do them while working 6 day weeks. . .
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2ND stage interview.
Hello guyz/Gulz..
Was wondering anyone preparing for stage 2 interview.
Should be really helpful if we can share some preparatory notes.
PM me..
brgdz
Was wondering anyone preparing for stage 2 interview.
Should be really helpful if we can share some preparatory notes.
PM me..
brgdz