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Old 30th Aug 2010, 18:08
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spot on ASL 402, same stuff here
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Old 30th Aug 2010, 19:02
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Hi LA-250. My interview's on 2nd so can't help you out there. Dunno bout Regal or Novotel, but Mariott at the airport's bout HKD1200 per night for a Deluxe room. No idea CX is having so many sessions in Sept! Would've preferred a later date but it's too late to ask now. All the best to you, LA-250!
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Old 30th Aug 2010, 19:04
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@Jerry Lee: Yeah, so? Maybe, that if you would have some flight experience or very much flight experience is OK. But you can still apply to the scheme if you have none experience..
Yes, I know. But I was wondering if a PPL with more than 100 hours can help.
Jerry, "this answer has no sense" sounds a little... well i'll leave you to discover but it's not very nice
Sorry for this, I didn't want to be aggressive or not nice. Sorry again, but I did the question because I've known about those 2 OAA's graduates.
It may help you, but I don't think it will harm you. During my interviews, they did ask me if I am so interested in flying, why did I never get my PPL. The interviewer told me to look into getting a PPL first if I was to reapply.

Also, the recruitment lady stressed to keep them updated with your hours, so I believe that it can be a factor to get you in.

In the end, it all comes down to how they think about you during the interviews. If you have 0 hours and will be able to persuade them that you love flying, then the PPL is probably not necessary. But the PPL can help to show your interests.
Ok thank you!
I'm gonna make the modular route to get the ATPL, but if I will be called by Cathay Pacific even only for Stage 1 it would be great!
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Old 30th Aug 2010, 21:19
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Hi Michelle.C,

Marriott is indeed the best deal at the airport. Only they don't have any rooms available at my dates... Apparently very popular hotel, must have something to do with the price I guess...

Best luck to you the 2nd!
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 16:57
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did you call them or at least email? it's not unheard of that forms are dropped/forgotten for no reason. i waited more than 6months before chasing it up and got a date the next day

good luck and keep it up
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Old 1st Sep 2010, 18:19
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Patience

How many applicants are there in a year? Tens of thousands! Be cool, they`ll contact you, for the interview details or to reject your app And if you don`t hear anything, drop them a few lines now and then and update your application if anything (if anything has changed).

There are people that have waited longer than a year for an inviation to an interview.

Hang in there!

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Success!

Dear Cathay PPRUNER's

I was just informed that I've been selected for the Cadetship. I'm incredibly grateful for the willingness of you all to share such thorough information throughout. In return, I am happy to answer and questions etc about my experience during recruitment and flight grading. I ask that questions that have been well covered in this forum aren't asked again. Also, I wont be answering private messages, as this defeats the purpose of the forum. This was a primary source of info for me over the past 6 months, and those truly interested in this cadetship should sift through its entirety. Good luck!

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Old 4th Sep 2010, 03:15
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yup if they say you wait then you're still in the system so you wait. meanwhile do something worthwhile like read everything you can for the recruitment process as well as do something you won't be able to do when you have a job, because if you're good enough and get accepted you'll be very busy for a very long time. good luck!
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Congrats

@monkeybiz..

Congrats!!!

May we ask what books did you refer for your interviews and what questions were asked to you differently?

Thanks

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Old 4th Sep 2010, 12:38
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I began by summarising all of my CPL theory books. I then moved onto "handling the big jets", "how to ace the technical pilot interview", "Captain XYZ guide to Cathay Pacific Interview (something like that)", "mental mathematics for pilots". That was all I can remember off the top of my head. My study was ongoing over a couple of months. Equip yourself with as much knowledge as reasonably possible. The study program I developed for myself was easily the hardest few months of my life, but it was completely necessary. There is no other way to get in, I can promise you that.
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Old 4th Sep 2010, 13:01
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congrats monkey!

will you be doing the short course or long course then since you have your CPL?

what was the flying assessment you had to do at flight grading?
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@monkeybiz

Congratulations! Sounds like you put a lot of effort into the interview process and got what you deserve!

I too have my CPL. Additionally I have my CFI and CFII with just over 1000 hrs. I have my stage 1 in HK in 2 weeks. Due to my experience do you expect the interview questions to be different than someone with less flight time? What kind of questions would you expect being in my shoes?

Thanks!
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Old 5th Sep 2010, 02:13
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Eddie757

not to shoot you down or anything buddy, but if you have 1000 hours and CFI (Chief FLying Instructor?) qualification.....are you ready to give up the potential in USA and start all over again in HK?? It's not as easy to live here as u think. just my 2c people.

Good luck anyway.

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CFI would be Certificated Flight Instructor, I'm guessing.
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i see....cos judging from my minimal knowledge within the industry, I just think there's gonna be a better way than starting all over again when you have 1000 hours and being a CFI. especially after reading what other people posted on this topic, living is gonna be expensive and you dun get to log as much hrs (P2X or what ever they call it)

How's the market in the USA and Canada??
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Old 5th Sep 2010, 03:15
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orangeboy -

mate I didn't mean to imply I had my CPL, I had just already done the theory exams thus having the books. I was on advanced flight grading. There are some pretty good descriptions of whats involved in flight grading in other posts. I completed three flights in the Grob and then three simulator sessions in the DA42 (G1000). Its all about rate of improvement and ability to absorb and utilise constructive criticism.


Roxy_Chick_1989 -

1. The reasoning tests etc CAN be prepared for. I sought out as many pattern recognition quizzes or links that have been provided in previous posts and I consistently practiced them. None were completely similar to those in the actual test, but the combination of them all pretty much covers it. I found the math pretty difficult. I did as much preparation as I could, but I honestly believe I would have got around 12ish /33. A trap that so many people fall into is feeling like its all over when you stuff something up. THEY EXPECT THIS, and will be noting your performance for the rest of the day. They will be looking to see if after your stuff up, did you fall to pieces, or did you regather yourself and improve. Keep your **** together and you will be fine.

2. I had never been to Hong Kong before my interview. However I researched it thoroughly. I made sure that anything they asked me about HK wouldn't be a surprise. I was able to tell them where I would live, how much rent would be, how much food would cost per week, where i could socialise, where i could continue to do my hobbies, the population breakdown, the religions, languages... Know absolutely EVERYTHING. It really impresses them.

Eddie757 -

The questions they ask you will INITIALLY be commensurate with your experience (so now everything you've been taught well). Once they see that you are well informed in these areas, they will then move onto questions that they don't really expect you to know. There are two paths from here. The first is that you know the answer through further research which is very impressing to the interviewers. The second is that you dont know the answer, but you work through it logically, and give a substantiated answer without blatantly guessing. They want to see how you think.
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Thats right, CFI = Certified Flight Instructor.
CFII = Certified Flight Instructor-Instrument.

This opportunity is better than the opportunities in the USA, even for someone with reasonable flight experience. I even know a few guys with over 2500 hrs, including twin turboprop time, who have applied.

There are way more pilots than there are jobs around here, and the guys who do have the jobs are barely able to make their rent. Approximately 7 - 10 years of flying before you are qualified to apply for a major, and if you do get the job, there's a decent chance of being furloughed. The economy is slowly recovering but the aviation industry does not look too promising. I would rather spend the next 7 years or so going through FTA and the SO job and then into the left seat of a widebody.

That's my view on it after being involved in aviation for 5 years in the USA.

I would like to hear your opinions.
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Old 5th Sep 2010, 04:32
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eddie, the questions will be tailored to your background, it would not be logical asking everyone the same level of questions when there is such a large disparity in the experiences between applicants, goodluck with your stage 1
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It depends on every individual, what the end product is for being a commercial pilot. Lets assume that the end product is getting command on a wide body, there are so many paths to get there.

Ab initio and being sponsored by an airline.
Getting your own licenses and hours and get on short course route.
Being a CFI and clocking hours for Direct Entry.
Etc etc.

It just depends on what path you would like to take en route to the end product. If you enjoy instructing and clocking hours as a CFI by all means. If you don't mind jump seating as an SO for afew years then its all good as well. Could also try joinning another airline or regional airlines to clock hours as well. etc etc

Many different ways to get there, no real right or wrong.
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orangeboy -

mate I didn't mean to imply I had my CPL, I had just already done the theory exams thus having the books. I was on advanced flight grading. There are some pretty good descriptions of whats involved in flight grading in other posts. I completed three flights in the Grob and then three simulator sessions in the DA42 (G1000). Its all about rate of improvement and ability to absorb and utilise constructive criticism.


Roxy_Chick_1989 -

1. The reasoning tests etc CAN be prepared for. I sought out as many pattern recognition quizzes or links that have been provided in previous posts and I consistently practiced them. None were completely similar to those in the actual test, but the combination of them all pretty much covers it. I found the math pretty difficult. I did as much preparation as I could, but I honestly believe I would have got around 12ish /33. A trap that so many people fall into is feeling like its all over when you stuff something up. They expect this, and will be noting your performance for the rest of the day. They will be looking to see if after your stuff up, did you fall to pieces, or did you regather yourself and improve. Keep your **** together and you will be fine.

2. I had never been to Hong Kong before my interview. However I researched it thoroughly. I made sure that anything they asked me about HK wouldn't be a surprise. I was able to tell them where I would live, how much rent would be, how much food would cost per week, where i could socialise, where i could continue to do my hobbies, the population breakdown, the religions, languages... Know absolutely everything. It really impresses them.

Eddie757 -

The questions they ask you will initially be commensurate with your experience (so now everything you've been taught well). Once they see that you are well informed in these areas, they will then move onto questions that they don't really expect you to know. There are two paths from here. The first is that you know the answer through further research which is very impressing to the interviewers. The second is that you dont know the answer, but you work through it logically, and give a substantiated answer without blatantly guessing. They want to see how you think.
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