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Take Five,
Great stuff there in your last post. With talk like that you may just find yourself the next Manager. For those who don't know, that kind of drivel is the stuff we have to constantly put up with from management - and I'm not kidding, our work is interrupted to go to meetings to listen to crap like this. No where in that little spiel of Take Five's do you hear anything about management listening to us, or helping us with ways to improve "the maintenance and repair of aircraft.' Well M and DC, RH, TL, TG and DM, here's a newsflash - WE FIX AIRCRAFT. If you take the time to find out what it is we do and learn a little of it, you just may be in a position to make some informed decisions on what's best for the place. IDIOTS.
Just like Take Five said, alot of our management:-
Great stuff there in your last post. With talk like that you may just find yourself the next Manager. For those who don't know, that kind of drivel is the stuff we have to constantly put up with from management - and I'm not kidding, our work is interrupted to go to meetings to listen to crap like this. No where in that little spiel of Take Five's do you hear anything about management listening to us, or helping us with ways to improve "the maintenance and repair of aircraft.' Well M and DC, RH, TL, TG and DM, here's a newsflash - WE FIX AIRCRAFT. If you take the time to find out what it is we do and learn a little of it, you just may be in a position to make some informed decisions on what's best for the place. IDIOTS.
Just like Take Five said, alot of our management:-
are no longer needed for the STRATEGIC FIT, they will no longer benefit from ACTION ENTITLEMENTS.
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Can someone with better computer skills than me post the strategy map
for all to see.
People will start to see the utter BULLSH*T we have had to deal
with over the last few years
Mean while I will scurry back across the bridge of trust to
pity city.
Maintain the Rage
PS
I am serious about the KING GEE shirts
for all to see.
People will start to see the utter BULLSH*T we have had to deal
with over the last few years
Mean while I will scurry back across the bridge of trust to
pity city.
Maintain the Rage
PS
I am serious about the KING GEE shirts
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ACSLAME,
I'd love to be able to post the Tragedy Map here for all to see.
It would show the amount of utter crap we have to put up with.
However, given the current environment it may breach the QF IT
policy.
For those in QF, go to the ACS intranet page. There they have
a full description of the entire map. Be warned though, it may
cause uncontrollable vomiting.
I'd love to be able to post the Tragedy Map here for all to see.
It would show the amount of utter crap we have to put up with.
However, given the current environment it may breach the QF IT
policy.
For those in QF, go to the ACS intranet page. There they have
a full description of the entire map. Be warned though, it may
cause uncontrollable vomiting.
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What we have to do is CAPTURE the MAJOR STAKEHOLDERS
lure them up onto the BRIDGE OF TRUST
and throw them off into the INTELLIGENT SPACE
And they spent good engineering budget money on that s
t
lure them up onto the BRIDGE OF TRUST
and throw them off into the INTELLIGENT SPACE
And they spent good engineering budget money on that s
t
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Can I bring to your attention that a new str@tegy map II, (a registered trademark attached) been drawn up by management and guess what, the bridge of trust is gone. It has collapsed, burned gooooone forever.
It's replaced by 2 "Thresholds" that can be guarded by management stooge's to fight attack from either side, from progress & reality. They can barricade themselves into what was once intelligent space but is now a rabbit warren of failed systems, back slapping and trough snorting supported by The 4 pillars (fortified guard towers [SYD-MA/12]) & the 2 thresholds (draw bridges) can be raised during crisis meeting to keep Us out.
Check it out. I tell you no lie!
It's replaced by 2 "Thresholds" that can be guarded by management stooge's to fight attack from either side, from progress & reality. They can barricade themselves into what was once intelligent space but is now a rabbit warren of failed systems, back slapping and trough snorting supported by The 4 pillars (fortified guard towers [SYD-MA/12]) & the 2 thresholds (draw bridges) can be raised during crisis meeting to keep Us out.
Check it out. I tell you no lie!
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Tragedy Map
Probably drawn by the same people who produce the back page of MAD magazine. If you fold the map the same way you do with the MAD page you will get its true message. Look closely and you'll find Wally. Hold it against the mirror and you'll see the haunting line ... I BURIED PAUL ..
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Probably not stoned one, MAD magazine made sense when you
folded it.
And I have no idea who said "burley engineers" were.
Possibly a figment of DC imagination.
But I do know that when they presented it to us, all you
could hear was stunned silence followed by absolute
disbelief.
That was pretty well the day madness took over
engineering.
Maintain the rage
I still want KING GEE shirts and a smurf suit for Bug a Lugs
but mainly the KING GEE shirts
folded it.
And I have no idea who said "burley engineers" were.
Possibly a figment of DC imagination.
But I do know that when they presented it to us, all you
could hear was stunned silence followed by absolute
disbelief.
That was pretty well the day madness took over
engineering.
Maintain the rage
I still want KING GEE shirts and a smurf suit for Bug a Lugs
but mainly the KING GEE shirts
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Qantas, Singapore deny merger speculation due to fuel prices | The Australian
More brand trashing and union bashing from the Head Honcho himself. Long live work choices......
Maybe the same people doing GD's research are the same ones that were telling us that the travelling public don't care about safety anymore, only on-time departure.
Gear up all, a very big battle looming.
More brand trashing and union bashing from the Head Honcho himself. Long live work choices......
Maybe the same people doing GD's research are the same ones that were telling us that the travelling public don't care about safety anymore, only on-time departure.
Gear up all, a very big battle looming.
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Sorry lovelondon didn't mean to cause offence and appreciate your support.
Being called a mechanic wouldn't bother me though as the name blackhander suggests. Just don't call me a conehead.
No offence to my pointy headed brothers
Being called a mechanic wouldn't bother me though as the name blackhander suggests. Just don't call me a conehead.
No offence to my pointy headed brothers
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More unquestioned porkies
Mr Dixon said. "It is pretty rich for a union to come out and say we are going to strike and then say look at the damage that is happening to the brand."
More putting words into peoples mouths. More manipulating the media. More journalists taken in hook, line and sinker. All unquestioned and presented as fact.
This is an example of what I was saying about the the media battle. I wish something could be done about it. It's so one sided.
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"This management has a track record, I think, of improving the brand.
How can the CEO make this comment while the EGM of Qantas engineering tries to tell his own engineers that although the stapled wiring was a botched repair, it was still an effective repair? Go figure.
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Apart from inconveniencing the punters, the daily cancellation of flights is actually saving the company heaps of money. Qantas can play this game for as long as they like, load factors increase on the remaining flights, great amounts of fuel is saved, less landing fee charges are incurred, etc.etc. Play it smart on Monday!
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Out of interest, and only as a sideline observer who supports your actions.
What is the highest level of manager who is known to have gone down to the concourse, unescorted and without spin doctors, and actually talked to the passengers who have been inconvenienced, and also talk to the staff who are dealing daily with the anger.
I would say that person is worth hanging onto and you could bin the rest.
What is the highest level of manager who is known to have gone down to the concourse, unescorted and without spin doctors, and actually talked to the passengers who have been inconvenienced, and also talk to the staff who are dealing daily with the anger.
I would say that person is worth hanging onto and you could bin the rest.
Re: HotDog's post #3063
With respect HotDog, I'm sure that more than 50% + 1 of LAME's at Qantas are happy to play this game as long as Qantas likes, too. Hence no certified EBA yet. With regard to the CEO and EGM People's media spin campaign: last time I checked, the media are not the ones that vote on the EBA when and if it finally gets presented for a vote. I thought it was the LAME's employed by Qantas that vote on the ALAEA/Qantas EBA8.
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Meeting with the company now on Wednesday. Predict another waste of time for our Exec. if Qf think some crap bonus will win us over!
They protracted this EBA with their constant drivel over 18 months
They made this battle very personal by forcing selected fellow LAME's in Melb. dock to work o.t..........what next ?? Sign out the aircraft or be fired
QE management have a lot to answer for and being good at their job isn't one of them
Don't let them waste your time on Wednesday S.P! Maintain the rage until we are showed some much deserved RESPECT!!
They protracted this EBA with their constant drivel over 18 months
They made this battle very personal by forcing selected fellow LAME's in Melb. dock to work o.t..........what next ?? Sign out the aircraft or be fired
QE management have a lot to answer for and being good at their job isn't one of them
Don't let them waste your time on Wednesday S.P! Maintain the rage until we are showed some much deserved RESPECT!!