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Old 28th Jun 2008, 00:03
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Well guys, it's nearly time to start the days court approved actions.
And leading the way today is Adelaide, let's all show them our support
and wish them well. Are any of the scabs the company talks about
going to be on shift? The a330 flight to Singapore might be bit a tricky
for some jackass out of an office.

Of course that won't be a problem in Brisbane tonight, some pillock
cancelled all their night work when the other operators were told
to get lost. Those contracts actually paid to have the lames on shift.

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Old 28th Jun 2008, 01:11
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Filthy Liars....

How we will ever trust the management of this once iconic airline again.

Move to end Qantas strike - Local News - News - General - Central Midlands & Coastal Advocate
A Qantas spokesman today said the company had issued its pilots with "suggested wording" as a guide for explaining any flight delays related to the strike...snip "The information is factual and it is not disparaging in any way towards our staff."
This refers to an incident earlier this week when Qantas issued a letter to passengers blaming an authentic delay on the industrial dispute. Our international brothers with a 747-400 QF175 bound for LA had a long running defect causing main deck galley drains to overflow [you remember the 4 generator shut down incident into Bangkok] which required a waste water drain mast to be replaced. The aircraft was 3hrs late after spares where flow up from Sydney. Here's what Qantas Media told boarding passengers in a letter distributed in the boarding lounge.
Dear Customer,
I am sorry that your flight QF175 to Los Angeles has been delayed.
This delay is a result of the industrial action currently being taken by the Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association (ALAEA). This action means that the essential regular engineering checks conducted on all aircraft have been delayed.
Because safety is paramount for Qantas, aircraft cannot depart until these checks have been completed.
The regular checks were completed on time. This aircraft was on the ground for a schedule 5 hours and the transit check was well and truly completed. This delay was to for the safety of the passengers about to take a 15 hour flight.

Filthy flithy liars....I will never trust nor give one drop of goodwill to these unethical, deceitful, pack of greed focussed scum again.
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 01:45
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Perth PIA

I had some questions (from other ports) about the Friday PIA in Perth and some company FUD propaganda surrounding it.

Let me just say, all the Perth LAME’s did exactly as the Fed Sec directed. We were all eager to walk out and then just before time, SP called. It was SP that directed us to stay.

After I heard his reasons for directing us to stay, I fully agree with him and think he’s a genius.
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 01:52
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The King

On you King, a few people were wondering why but pressumed it was the Union that asked you guys to change tack....
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 02:18
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What was his reasoning?

yeah, lets tell the company our tactics.......a clue......NO......

Good work Perth and The King, keep 'em on their toes

Black Panther, tell your story and give your info to the press. Ben whatsiname at the age and the dude from the 7.30 report would both love to hear it.
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 02:18
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Hey Aussie

We would all like to know his reasoning, but we must remember that this is a public forum and that some of the evec's ideas should be kept to the ALAEA and members only. If you would like to know I suggest that you talk to SP himself and not let too many trade secrets out,for all to know.
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 02:54
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I spoke to him, I know the answer, pick me pick me.

Lets just draw up a little scenario. Eastern States having stoppages to impact the flts. Strikebreakers replacing LAMEs as they walk off. Why not spread their strikebreakers far and wide to places like Perth, Adelaide and Darwin and then cancel meetings at the last minute. Now wouldn't that be a shame if they didn't need them. Repeat the scenario several times over end then, low and behold, one day they will walk off and it will come when you least expect it. Yesterday and today's stoppages that have been canx have cost us nothing.
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 03:08
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the old Fed Sec's not just a pretty face.............
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 03:20
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Which stop work/meetings have been cancelled for today?
I'm not getting any updates of late scratchings for todays p.i.a.
An undeserved example of good faith putting our guns back in their
holsters for mondays meeting. The bullets should be flying if GD is
once again wasting our time with doom and gloom.
A lot of people are getting tired of this 3% bull$hit, every time i pick
up the paper, someones getting 4%-5%, which seems to be the
norm. How much longer will it take for them to wake up to it.
The words of Bill Shorten were most encouraging
"these engineers are worth it"

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Old 28th Jun 2008, 03:30
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We could make a decent soapie with all this stuff going on..

"Like sands through the hourglass...so to are the days at Qantas.."

or

"Next week on White Rats..

Will GD buckle under the weight of public misrepresentation?..

Can KB find out who made him look like a clown?..

Who will M next accuse of being a scab??

Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of White Rats!"
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 03:35
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Market Capitalisation

2007 31Dec QAN $5.46 Mkt Cap: $10.343 billion
2008 27Jun QAN $3.01 Mkt Cap: $5.702 billion

Q: How do you make the challenge of high oil prices more difficult?

A: Put the Doc Martens on and take to the skilled labour that maintains your fleet.

GD .... you are overpaid.
Most critical decisions have been answered by outside influences eg Ansett collapse.

You have made two critical decisions in the last 12mths.
1. An Equity takeover offer.....In hindsight, would have been great for shareholders but bad for workers and the company as we wouldn't be here if the public had let you get away with your swindle.

2. Defying the cost of your labour in Australia after an economic boom and two years of records profit, while giving your senior management exorbitant percentage pay rise at the same time denying the people who contributed most to the profit pittance in percentage terms.

One word describes your decisions..........G O O S E !
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 04:26
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Monday's meeting

Gossip, and I mean gossip around the office this morning was that there is some sort of sweetener ala the FA's coming your way on Monday (eg $2k), but no way, Jose is there going to be any movement on the 3%.

Stick to your guns with the 5%, guys. They want this resolved because of the end of financial year, school holidays, and The Papal presence.

Also, SLFAussie, has really hit the nail in terms of the media representation. I've seen and heard GD and KB talk over the last couple of weeks, and as much as I hate to say it, they have come accross sounding the more reasonable and "believable". All their absolute lies have been presented, and unquestioned as fact...even on the ABC. "Upto 7% bonus last year" Yeah, right Geoff.

Something needs to be done with regards to the media battle. However, I don't what can be done about it.
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 04:32
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Sweetners

Sweetners are fine but its going to have to be a pretty big one, this EBA is due to expire in less than 4-6months.....This original EBA can only be for 2 years, anything more is silly....
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 04:49
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I read an article in the MHS this morning and part of it states :-
Barbara Pocock, director of Adelaide University Centre for Work and Life said "Annual leave is a primary protection against burnout at work. It's there for a reason".
Goes to show what our "management" think of us.

Number 5 is alive.
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 05:15
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Qantas invention

According to Janice Witham's book, BLACK BOX, David Warren is credited with the invention of the Cockpit Voice Recorder, aka The BLACK BOX. He was NOT a Qantas employee.
It is well worth the read. ISN 0 7344 0770 X
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 05:32
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Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.. He might not have been a QF employee but he is an Aussie..
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 05:52
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Gossip, and I mean gossip around the office this morning was that there is some sort of sweetener ala the FA's coming your way on Monday (eg $2k), but no way, Jose is there going to be any movement on the 3%.



Yeah $2K,,,,, but I'm sure given just half a chance, our Lovely FOG will retalliate By withholding any forthcoming annual bonus. We all know this Bloke just can't be trusted

this 3% crap is well passed its use by date.
5% and as a bonus GD's head on a platter
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 06:15
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Because some posts were deleted by the registered user, not PPRuNe. That is the user's prerogative.
Now the media are scrutinizing these threads more closely, perhaps all the company stooges have removed their contributions, not wishing to be found out??
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 06:30
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BASE WAGE INCREASES EITHER IN EXTRA GRADES OR STRAIGHT PERCENTAGE.....NO BULLSH!T ONE OFF SWEETNERS!!!
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Old 28th Jun 2008, 06:39
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FED SEC
At the meeting on monday I would like you to add this
non negotiable demand
BRING BACK THE KING GEE SHIRTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO MORE OF THIS ILL FITTING CHINESE ****!!!!!!
They arn't even good to clean the car with!!!
And yes I have tried

Maintain the rage!

PS the socks with some mister sheen do a pretty good job
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