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JUSTFORME
I'm sure the 7.30 report reporter would love to hear from you. His name is Greg hoy at the ABC. Give hime a ring and chat. I am trying to put something together but along with tripping over the broom that is shoved up my a e I am making slow progress.
Then again, qf has taught me the meaning of slow progress ........ holy sh$t it must be catching LOL
I'm sure the 7.30 report reporter would love to hear from you. His name is Greg hoy at the ABC. Give hime a ring and chat. I am trying to put something together but along with tripping over the broom that is shoved up my a e I am making slow progress.
Then again, qf has taught me the meaning of slow progress ........ holy sh$t it must be catching LOL
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Nas1801
Busted me after 1 post! I'm a very much on your side unionist, and we will win this fight. Was doing a bit of fishing before so you could have let me go a little longer. Still thought it was a good user name! Say it quickly before it's banned.
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Thanx for coming clean SMD. You don't have to be banned. Now that we know you are on our side you can stay here for ever. Nice try at fishing. And I understand your name. You boys and your penis humor. Suck my dong - you wish. Ha Ha
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The Colonel Lives.
Your post is close to the fact, but without going into details, our security is a whole lot tighter than that!
To quote our PPRuNe leader today: "Frankly, there's more chance the Pope would convert to Islam than anyone could gain access to our user details."
Suk MaDong.
No, we won't say it quickly. If you behave you can keep it, misbehave and it's gone, quicker than the chance of a pay rise at Qantas!
Tail Wheel
Your post is close to the fact, but without going into details, our security is a whole lot tighter than that!
To quote our PPRuNe leader today: "Frankly, there's more chance the Pope would convert to Islam than anyone could gain access to our user details."
Suk MaDong.
No, we won't say it quickly. If you behave you can keep it, misbehave and it's gone, quicker than the chance of a pay rise at Qantas!
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Lowest paid workers in Aus get a 4% pay rise and Qantas is still offering 3%, BIG joke.
Minimum wage workers will get a 4% increase of pay. Unions NSW says the NSW Industrial Relations Commission decided on Friday on an increase of $21.25 per week in the minimum wage, to $552.65.
The increase will take effect from next Tuesday, July 1.
The increase will take effect from next Tuesday, July 1.
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vorsta, not big joke, but big ego. One that's about to be deflated. Shares in downward spiral, employees (company term) disengaged, (read: extremely pissed off) Public not flying on time (this is despite QF sayiing they will accomodate all pax within 1 hr/30 mins and yet some are not leaving on the same day)
Employee morale, however is on the way up, (do we ever read about the morale of a honeymooning couple, or a pprune moderator?) and we are so happy to come to work. Just to watch the balls ups from the prvious shift.
I'm starting a book on who will be the lucky last employee who gets to turn the lights out on QF engineering. If you want to get a wager on, just pm me
Employee morale, however is on the way up, (do we ever read about the morale of a honeymooning couple, or a pprune moderator?) and we are so happy to come to work. Just to watch the balls ups from the prvious shift.
I'm starting a book on who will be the lucky last employee who gets to turn the lights out on QF engineering. If you want to get a wager on, just pm me
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Public Opinion
I've been watching events unfold by following this PPRuNe thread since before overtime bans started and it's been eye-opening. I've learned that what goes on in the background is very different to what CEO's present in the media.
GD looks good on TV and the general public trust that look. But he’s abstract rather than concrete when giving information, he quotes information selectively to benefit his claims and he relies on the general public only getting information about the dispute through print, television and radio media.
The union has organised the campaign really skilfully by the union and I’ve been impressed with the tactics used, but I'm worried that the ALAEA reps aren’t as slick as GD in the media. Being in front of a camera and an interviewer is hard work, and it takes training, and getting exactly what you want said into print requires major skill. But someone like Bill Shorten proves that you can look good and still be on the side of the little guy.
What I learned through PPRuNe is that:
But guys, stop using the word ‘scab’. You want to make management look threatening and unreasonable and not be accused of it yourself. Be polite but firm with your uncooperative colleagues. They might even be persuaded to your side of the argument when they see your success. But don’t forget the ones who impede your progress.
Reading PPRuNe means that I’m on your side. You do a vital job. I don't work in the airline industry, I'm just a paying customer. I want to know that any plane that I board is worked on by someone who’s worried about the plane’s condition, not whether they can afford their mortgage and petrol for the car.
GD looks good on TV and the general public trust that look. But he’s abstract rather than concrete when giving information, he quotes information selectively to benefit his claims and he relies on the general public only getting information about the dispute through print, television and radio media.
The union has organised the campaign really skilfully by the union and I’ve been impressed with the tactics used, but I'm worried that the ALAEA reps aren’t as slick as GD in the media. Being in front of a camera and an interviewer is hard work, and it takes training, and getting exactly what you want said into print requires major skill. But someone like Bill Shorten proves that you can look good and still be on the side of the little guy.
What I learned through PPRuNe is that:
- The 5% is both reasonable and necessary to maintain living standards
- The 3% was never agreed to by members
- That GD and other senior managers have had outrageous pay increases on top of already huge salaries
- That you've been negotiating in good faith for over 18 months, but management wont budge
- That you're still turning up for work, you’re not on strike, it’s only stop work meetings
- That when members stop work for only two hours the whole system falls apart. Things can't be that good at Qantas if that's all it takes.
- That leave is being cancelled because of understaffing
- That you’re not on a go-slow, you’re actually working like crazy, but you’re refusing overtime and taking your allowed breaks instead of working through them
- As a result of refusing overtime you're now able to spend time with your family.
- That ALAEA members are being docked their normal pay because they don't want to work overtime
- That your apologies to the public are actually sincere and you never wanted it to get that way.
- GD cares more about the shareholder than the staff or customers
But guys, stop using the word ‘scab’. You want to make management look threatening and unreasonable and not be accused of it yourself. Be polite but firm with your uncooperative colleagues. They might even be persuaded to your side of the argument when they see your success. But don’t forget the ones who impede your progress.
Reading PPRuNe means that I’m on your side. You do a vital job. I don't work in the airline industry, I'm just a paying customer. I want to know that any plane that I board is worked on by someone who’s worried about the plane’s condition, not whether they can afford their mortgage and petrol for the car.
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Mrs. Jarse manages between 3 and 7% every year WITHOUT offsets in a relatively unskilled vocation compared to you blokes (and me). I hope you guys get what you're aiming for. You deserve it.
The problem is, stiffnut, if they CAN identify you, you won't get the package you're hoping for. If you read your company policy manual, you'll find that any public comment by employees, particularly in a bad light is a sackable offence which would negate your redundancy. And they'll figh it to the death...
Be careful out there....
but i really don't care if the idiots manage to find out who i am, as what are they going to do, give me a package, i'll be the first among many who are queing up for it,
Be careful out there....
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Airline grounded on safety concerns
Could this be QANTAS in the near future?? Is the management in training for QANTAS??
Airline grounded on safety concerns | The Australian
"We've issued a number of notices to the airline... to make improvements and put them on notice that we were dissatisfied with their performance.
"In effect they have not improved anything and in recent days we've done more investigations and in fact found that safety standards have got worse."
He said CASA had uncovered a pattern of failures to meet the aviation safety standards within the airline.
"We've tried to work with the airline to get them to improve the standards, they've failed to do that," he said.
"That also leads us to have a lack of confidence in the management of the airline to actually treat their commitment to safety as seriously as they should."
He said the decision was not made due to any incidents with the fleet of 15 seven to 11-seater aircraft or the pilots operating them."
Airline grounded on safety concerns | The Australian
"We've issued a number of notices to the airline... to make improvements and put them on notice that we were dissatisfied with their performance.
"In effect they have not improved anything and in recent days we've done more investigations and in fact found that safety standards have got worse."
He said CASA had uncovered a pattern of failures to meet the aviation safety standards within the airline.
"We've tried to work with the airline to get them to improve the standards, they've failed to do that," he said.
"That also leads us to have a lack of confidence in the management of the airline to actually treat their commitment to safety as seriously as they should."
He said the decision was not made due to any incidents with the fleet of 15 seven to 11-seater aircraft or the pilots operating them."
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missing pages?
What's happened? Was perusing this thread early last night and was up to page 158. Now, 6 hours later, it's back to page 152. Any reason for the loss of these pages?
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Looks like some contributors have been busy on the delete key.
Definately something screwy going on with the time and date
sequence of posts yesterday. Either the pprune clock is broken
or someones buggering around in the pprune system.
Maybe QF have re-hired the fake lame dude to ferret some info.
Definately something screwy going on with the time and date
sequence of posts yesterday. Either the pprune clock is broken
or someones buggering around in the pprune system.
Maybe QF have re-hired the fake lame dude to ferret some info.
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I like big tits
So many of you said you liked me - so had to sign up. Got the feeling though that this thread is becoming like a Peter Cook (RIP) sketch. Only missing a couple of runners!
Seriously, good luck to you engineers in your dispute. Make sure the loo is safe so Lisa and I can look after Raif (Ralph to you plebs) and his friends.
Best wishes
BT
Seriously, good luck to you engineers in your dispute. Make sure the loo is safe so Lisa and I can look after Raif (Ralph to you plebs) and his friends.
Best wishes
BT
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"Definately something screwy going on with the time and date sequence of posts yesterday. Either the pprune clock is broken...."
Currently being investigated and - hopefully - rectified by our IT specialists.
"What's happened? Was perusing this thread early last night and was up to page 158. Now, 6 hours later, it's back to page 152. Any reason for the loss of these pages?"
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Mendaero, has been busy deleting his posts.
He will no doubt be spending less time posting wrong names on the web and and more time indulging in his passion for films.
I think he might also be deleting other posts he has made on other aviation sites, as they give his identity away, silly bugger
He will no doubt be spending less time posting wrong names on the web and and more time indulging in his passion for films.
I think he might also be deleting other posts he has made on other aviation sites, as they give his identity away, silly bugger
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SLFAussie
Well done SLFAussie.
You have correctly picked up all the grievances of the LAME and put it in a clear & concise manner.
Being an ex QF LAME I have been watching pprune for some time and get terribly frustrated that what you intoned indeed does not get seen by the general public nor the media (until a little bit recently).
The Engineers do need backing like yours and I am sure they are thankful.
You have correctly picked up all the grievances of the LAME and put it in a clear & concise manner.
Being an ex QF LAME I have been watching pprune for some time and get terribly frustrated that what you intoned indeed does not get seen by the general public nor the media (until a little bit recently).
The Engineers do need backing like yours and I am sure they are thankful.
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The Tiger in the corner of the room
Patience and timing is a common trait of successful businesses. While Qantas continues to kick heads of union members no doubt the other airline operators are trying to gain ex-Qantas customers. One quiet achiever is Tiger Airways who is promoting there on-time performance.
Tiger Airways reports on-time performance - Low Cost Airline News
Wait till the June stats hit the wires....
Great work SP.
However members must keep up the PR momentum. Write to editors, call in to talk-back radio segments, post to on-line comments. Do not let Darth continue the one sided attack of our fair and reasonable wage claim. We need to get the truth to the public that these "Gordon Gecko's" have filled there own bank accounts at the expense of the workers who helped produce the company profits.
Tiger Airways reports on-time performance - Low Cost Airline News
Tiger Airways business objective to offer the most reliable airline product in Australia has commenced with the airline reporting its on time performance statistics so consumers can make their own choice � low fares and on time with Tiger Airways or high fares and late with our competitors.
It is important to stress the point that Qantas had the second highest percentage of cancellations for Apr-08 at 2.3 per cent of all flights, followed by Virgin Blue at 1.9 per cent, QantasLink and Skywest both at 1.3 per cent, Regional Express at 1.1 per cent, and Jetstar at 0.6 per cent. Tiger Airways recorded zero cancellations for the month.
Great work SP.
However members must keep up the PR momentum. Write to editors, call in to talk-back radio segments, post to on-line comments. Do not let Darth continue the one sided attack of our fair and reasonable wage claim. We need to get the truth to the public that these "Gordon Gecko's" have filled there own bank accounts at the expense of the workers who helped produce the company profits.