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Scab named without fully naming him
Anyone remember someone who left Qantas dock maintenance in melbourne by the name of Tom ??????? Quick memory jog for you all. He dropped a 2 litre bottle of plonk on the hangar floor that he was given as part of his sendoff to virgin ???
He is one of the scabs !!!!!!!!!!
Don't forget this bloke people and what he stands for,someone who called himself your friend is ****ting in your face for the all mighty dollar.$$$$
Filth personified.
Anyone remember someone who left Qantas dock maintenance in melbourne by the name of Tom ??????? Quick memory jog for you all. He dropped a 2 litre bottle of plonk on the hangar floor that he was given as part of his sendoff to virgin ???
He is one of the scabs !!!!!!!!!!
Don't forget this bloke people and what he stands for,someone who called himself your friend is ****ting in your face for the all mighty dollar.$$$$
Filth personified.
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Its Time
Look lads, I'm a newby to this, but for christ sake, it has to our best chance since I,ve been a LAME (10 years), to really have some leverage for a reasonable EBA. What we are asking for, to me is totally within reason and doesn't compare to other industries. If for some reason some members work OT or go against the ALAEA bans you are only cutting your own throat and waisting the best oppurtunty we have had in a long time. Stay together and win. If members fall off the band wagon and break the bans then this union will fail to ever have any respect from anybody, let alone QF!!!!!!
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acute instinct and motown
let me respond ,i havent taken any knocks to the head and assure you i am on the rite side of the line.all i was trying to point out is, lets not get into a slanging match and dvide our membership as this is exactly what q wants.
as the song goes, "I am, you are, we are, Australian"
or should i say, " I am, you are, we are, The A.L.A.E.A"
as the song goes, "I am, you are, we are, Australian"
or should i say, " I am, you are, we are, The A.L.A.E.A"
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Chemical Ali,
I cannot recall a time that Lame's have voted with such unity. Either in the last ballot for PIA or with thier feet and leave.
The last thing our association will be is divided although you cant legislate against the stupidity of certain individuals.
The tribal council has spoken.
I cannot recall a time that Lame's have voted with such unity. Either in the last ballot for PIA or with thier feet and leave.
The last thing our association will be is divided although you cant legislate against the stupidity of certain individuals.
The tribal council has spoken.
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If You're Having Doubts About Your Pia, Here's 60 Million Reasons To Read On
Sorry to all, but for nostaglia's sake, I just had to post a link to this picture.
A little over a year ago, these 3 stooges almost single handedly caused the collapse of another great Australian Icon. With GD on the left smiling with such enthusiasm, he thought the $60M was in the bag. Notice the grip he had on Marg. And as for big bad Bob, his fist was so far up Marg,(note his missing right arm), that his puppet was smiling from ear to ear.
Now my suggestion to all the LAMES is that when you're feeling like a little inspiration, just look at this link and it will keep you going for weeks. Remember, in Geoff's world it is the 'shareholder' that's the most important product of his buisness model. And why wouldn't it be? With 2,363,000 shares held plus all the other options, that would certainly make this 'shareholder' very important.
You greedy bastard... The sweat of every Qantas employee who only ever gets an average of 3% and less has made this airline what it is today. All that was ever asked for was inflation when the times are good. We are walking off on Friday because you and your managers have shown no wage restraint. Explain this to your shareholders. We are walking off on Friday because you have been unreasonable and two faced with your negotiations!! Explain that to our customers.
To the rest, Choke on the photo....
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/20..._470x384,0.jpg
A little over a year ago, these 3 stooges almost single handedly caused the collapse of another great Australian Icon. With GD on the left smiling with such enthusiasm, he thought the $60M was in the bag. Notice the grip he had on Marg. And as for big bad Bob, his fist was so far up Marg,(note his missing right arm), that his puppet was smiling from ear to ear.
Now my suggestion to all the LAMES is that when you're feeling like a little inspiration, just look at this link and it will keep you going for weeks. Remember, in Geoff's world it is the 'shareholder' that's the most important product of his buisness model. And why wouldn't it be? With 2,363,000 shares held plus all the other options, that would certainly make this 'shareholder' very important.
You greedy bastard... The sweat of every Qantas employee who only ever gets an average of 3% and less has made this airline what it is today. All that was ever asked for was inflation when the times are good. We are walking off on Friday because you and your managers have shown no wage restraint. Explain this to your shareholders. We are walking off on Friday because you have been unreasonable and two faced with your negotiations!! Explain that to our customers.
To the rest, Choke on the photo....
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/20..._470x384,0.jpg
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This is all new to me, I started in the 'class of 90' and in reflection of my 18 yrs I can't believe how far down we have come. Slowly but surely qf's wage policies have caught up to me, I have had a gutfull t be honest. so what to do?
Become the person your family would be proud of, Show integrity, Stand up for what is right, look yourself in the mirror after you have made that hard decision! but above all support your fellow lame and the alaea for doing what is right. goodluck to all, together we will achieve
Become the person your family would be proud of, Show integrity, Stand up for what is right, look yourself in the mirror after you have made that hard decision! but above all support your fellow lame and the alaea for doing what is right. goodluck to all, together we will achieve
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It's time to put up or shut up. If you hear someone whinge about taking a bit of pain for the good of LAMES in the future remind them of how they got to where they are at the moment, and then remind them them of why we are where we are now....having to hold the travelling public to ransom to claw back what we had 10 years ago. And that is because of the bunch of pussies that voted down an eba last time only to vote up a worse one when it was offered.
NO MORE PUSSIES!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you sent Murray and Cox, Vincent and the other twats that have taken over QF engineering in the last few years on holiday for a few months would the aircraft would still be maintained, still meet schedule and still be safe and have satisfied customers?
If the LAMES on the ground take a few days off the whole thing turns to ****.
Who is more vital to the company?
NO MORE PUSSIES!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you sent Murray and Cox, Vincent and the other twats that have taken over QF engineering in the last few years on holiday for a few months would the aircraft would still be maintained, still meet schedule and still be safe and have satisfied customers?
If the LAMES on the ground take a few days off the whole thing turns to ****.
Who is more vital to the company?
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I'd have to agree with this one. It seems a self defeting excercise to pay your subs to the ALAEA then turn around and do O/T in face of what the collective has chosen.Lets face it the requests seem modest enough given rising inflation, interest rates & taxation rates .PS I can't let rip on my first posting, bieng a probationary ppruner and all!
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Hi All
Hi All,
Just a small msg off support. I left QF some time back for personal reasons, I did not vote in the PIA ballot as I have no right to now. I am now working in a far off land earning more money than I ever did at QF.
Of course, anyone who works as a contractor in a "Far off Land" is entilted to do as they wish. It is a small world out here, and I can assure history is never forgotten.....
What goes around, comes around, but there are lots of us out here who were offered, refused and wish you good luck...
The "splash"
is backl
Just a small msg off support. I left QF some time back for personal reasons, I did not vote in the PIA ballot as I have no right to now. I am now working in a far off land earning more money than I ever did at QF.
Of course, anyone who works as a contractor in a "Far off Land" is entilted to do as they wish. It is a small world out here, and I can assure history is never forgotten.....
What goes around, comes around, but there are lots of us out here who were offered, refused and wish you good luck...
The "splash"
is backl
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In these trying times it would probably be wise for you to get your facts straight before slagging off one of the brothers (JS) who's only crime was to assist the engineers from being bombarded with management procedures, thus making our working life a little more pleasant. If you think this guy is a scab or a scab trainer, think again.
Lets stick to the real issues.
In these trying times it would probably be wise for you to get your facts straight before slagging off one of the brothers (JS) who's only crime was to assist the engineers from being bombarded with management procedures, thus making our working life a little more pleasant. If you think this guy is a scab or a scab trainer, think again.
Lets stick to the real issues.
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Members of the ALAEA, ladies and gentlemen,
We, Qantas LAME's, are about to do battle with a company that have millions of dollars perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars in reserve to fight with. Also the company have employed a few QF oldtimers and some desperate people seemingly willing to sell their souls for some short term cash. GD is also now firmly against us and this alone is making QF Engineering Management believe they are unbeatable!
Well GD, DC and the so called Engineering Management Team, you are about to realise the gravity of the situaton you have created.
100 or so old and partimers cannot run an airline of this size no matter what training you give them, or cash you have put aside.
If this is your only defense you deserve all that is coming, for your incompetance!!
There is no need to worry about the odd person who breaks ranks. The odd person will not make a difference! There is no need to worry about less than one hundred strike breakers, they simply do not have the numbers or the skills to cope!
Lets just give them all plenty to do!
Lets not forget the strength we have, it's impossible to replace us! The local work cannot be taken overseas! It must be done by competent, hard working personnel, willing to work to the extremeties of the law to make it financially viable.
BE VERY, VERY CONFIDENT ABOUT THIS FACT,
WE CAN AND WILL PREVAIL!
We, Qantas LAME's, are about to do battle with a company that have millions of dollars perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars in reserve to fight with. Also the company have employed a few QF oldtimers and some desperate people seemingly willing to sell their souls for some short term cash. GD is also now firmly against us and this alone is making QF Engineering Management believe they are unbeatable!
Well GD, DC and the so called Engineering Management Team, you are about to realise the gravity of the situaton you have created.
100 or so old and partimers cannot run an airline of this size no matter what training you give them, or cash you have put aside.
If this is your only defense you deserve all that is coming, for your incompetance!!
There is no need to worry about the odd person who breaks ranks. The odd person will not make a difference! There is no need to worry about less than one hundred strike breakers, they simply do not have the numbers or the skills to cope!
Lets just give them all plenty to do!
Lets not forget the strength we have, it's impossible to replace us! The local work cannot be taken overseas! It must be done by competent, hard working personnel, willing to work to the extremeties of the law to make it financially viable.
BE VERY, VERY CONFIDENT ABOUT THIS FACT,
WE CAN AND WILL PREVAIL!
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THANKYOU amstrang. Your message should be mass produced and read at this friday's meetings. Up until reading your message i have felt uneasy and pressured due to the unruly company propaganda on this forum and other e-mails. Your reassurance is to the point and put me at ease. I will sleep better tonight knowing that YES was the right answer. THANKYOU.
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LAME’s on the line know how easy things can turn to Sh*t with A/C delays, even with 1700 LAME’s with good intensions.
Can you imagine less than 100 retired rusty scabs under pressure?
Now that’s what I call priceless.
There was one LAME they got rid of from Perth (lets call him HR for short). His reputation was known all around the network. When he worked for QF he caused so many delays and cost so many millions in A/C damage that QF were glad to see him go. In fact they even tried sacking him several times.
Well he is one of the scabs - and the caliber of the rest will be similar.
Can you imagine less than 100 retired rusty scabs under pressure?
Now that’s what I call priceless.
There was one LAME they got rid of from Perth (lets call him HR for short). His reputation was known all around the network. When he worked for QF he caused so many delays and cost so many millions in A/C damage that QF were glad to see him go. In fact they even tried sacking him several times.
Well he is one of the scabs - and the caliber of the rest will be similar.
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good luck guys,
I would love to be amongst you when you give QF management a bloody nose. Many of the guys who went went syd heavy was closed down were asked to be scabs-I don't know of any that signed up and I'm sure everyone supports you guys 100%.
Read Armstrangs post when you have doubts. Stay united and you cannot fail!! They simply have no one else (or not enough of them) that can do the job!!
I would love to be amongst you when you give QF management a bloody nose. Many of the guys who went went syd heavy was closed down were asked to be scabs-I don't know of any that signed up and I'm sure everyone supports you guys 100%.
Read Armstrangs post when you have doubts. Stay united and you cannot fail!! They simply have no one else (or not enough of them) that can do the job!!
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every ex heavy (h245)person i have spoken to ,are behind you guys and girls,time to belt these bastards.
P.S as for Dixons threat about offshoring,so what,we gave him what he wanted and he still shut as down.HIS WORD MEANS NOTHING.
P.S as for Dixons threat about offshoring,so what,we gave him what he wanted and he still shut as down.HIS WORD MEANS NOTHING.
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