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Anyone care to look at the political turmoil in Malaysia lately?
What happens to your MRO over there if Kevin Rudd supports Anwar Ibrahim?
Malaysia is corrupt from top to bottom. You want me sign off???? You gimme dollahs!
What happens to your MRO over there if Kevin Rudd supports Anwar Ibrahim?
Malaysia is corrupt from top to bottom. You want me sign off???? You gimme dollahs!
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Division 1 Ironically, the NWA lames who opposed the scabs at NWA are now the QF scabs. The 140 are not all AME's, 20 Lame's (all employed by QF USA or QF Australia) + another 8 (QF usa) in the near future. Supervision is virtually non existant. Very unorganized. When the last winglet that was damaged, the supervisor, who was supposed to watch the plane being pushed out of the hangar, was in the office, surfing the internet whilst a newly hired contract mechanic forgot to open the hangar door enough to clear the wing.
PIOT True, management treats them like sh*t, but most of the workforce have nowhere else to go. Airlines going out of business, moving out of LAX, downsizing and outsourcing are keeping a lot of poeple at QF. It started at 25 and has steadily increased to over 100 over the years. Out of the 40 more, probably less than half will stay.
Bug You should care, If LAX does a small % of the work on a small % of the fleetand only ends up doing 2% of the work, well there's the 2% you are fighting for. First you don't care if you loose 2% of the work because it's nothing, yet you want an extra 2% like it's a monumental amount. Open your eyes!
None of the contractor were offered any formal training, A380 or otherwise. Almost all of them never worked or trained on a A330 before but they are working on them now. None of the contractors have a CASA license, some don't even have a FAA license.
PIOT True, management treats them like sh*t, but most of the workforce have nowhere else to go. Airlines going out of business, moving out of LAX, downsizing and outsourcing are keeping a lot of poeple at QF. It started at 25 and has steadily increased to over 100 over the years. Out of the 40 more, probably less than half will stay.
Bug You should care, If LAX does a small % of the work on a small % of the fleetand only ends up doing 2% of the work, well there's the 2% you are fighting for. First you don't care if you loose 2% of the work because it's nothing, yet you want an extra 2% like it's a monumental amount. Open your eyes!
None of the contractor were offered any formal training, A380 or otherwise. Almost all of them never worked or trained on a A330 before but they are working on them now. None of the contractors have a CASA license, some don't even have a FAA license.
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Thuggery or Buggery
So now its starting, buggery from management and thuggery from the ALAEA. Nasty things happening in Melb I heart - I thought Norm Gallagher was long gone? Bring back Arty J I say!
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Oh Redhawk, you really dont have to be a brain surgeon to work out that you a company stooge / Troll.
Perhaps you should rejoin Prune under a different alias as a different probationary pruner? and then we will be all fooled by your amazing cloak and dagger abilities!
Imbecile
Perhaps you should rejoin Prune under a different alias as a different probationary pruner? and then we will be all fooled by your amazing cloak and dagger abilities!
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Like I said..."Don't feed the trolls!" 
On a lighter note..let's hope the meeting tomorrow between the company and union is a productive one (for a change!) and not another trip around the 'ol "3% that's our best offer...Take it or leave it" merry-go-round!
On a lighter note..let's hope the meeting tomorrow between the company and union is a productive one (for a change!) and not another trip around the 'ol "3% that's our best offer...Take it or leave it" merry-go-round!
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Sorry mate, could'nt hear you. It's me ears you see.....
PS: Does anyone know if Maurice Blackburn look after cases of bullying, harrassment or intimidation in the workplace? (especially by certain managers)
PS: Does anyone know if Maurice Blackburn look after cases of bullying, harrassment or intimidation in the workplace? (especially by certain managers)
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GD looks weary. So do I but I am not backing down either !
Who cares about GD. The CEO position is a Hydra, If you cut its head off it will only grow back uglier and angrier. that is the job description and should not be anything we concern ourselves with.
I know he has injected him self into our dispute but we all know what has unified the LAMEs.
It is the characters running ACS that have unified the LAME work force in QF. Its the utter contempt we LAMEs have for their ability, lack of long term plans and ACS management puerile attitude towards our abilities.
Focus your ire on the engineering management. These are the incompetents who must go.
They authored, designed and constructed the mess we are now in.
Maintain the rage
Who cares about GD. The CEO position is a Hydra, If you cut its head off it will only grow back uglier and angrier. that is the job description and should not be anything we concern ourselves with.
I know he has injected him self into our dispute but we all know what has unified the LAMEs.
It is the characters running ACS that have unified the LAME work force in QF. Its the utter contempt we LAMEs have for their ability, lack of long term plans and ACS management puerile attitude towards our abilities.
Focus your ire on the engineering management. These are the incompetents who must go.
They authored, designed and constructed the mess we are now in.
Maintain the rage
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I reckon you guys are getting done here. Do a bit of research into the South Australian public hospital doctors dispute that's been on the go as long as your dispute. It's been tucked away in the back pages of the media for some reason or other but they have just won pay rises of between 80% and 100% and you wouldn't even know!
These guys weren't happy with salaries of $180K to $220k for dealing with deadbeats off the street in the public hospital system so they all put in post dated resignations to take effect from today.
Anyway, they're now on $320k to $440k, as happy as pigs in s*it 'cause the Labour guvmint capitulated, and nobody seems to know about it!
There must be a lesson there, surely?!
Still reckon you're worth only a 3% to 5% salary increase?
These guys weren't happy with salaries of $180K to $220k for dealing with deadbeats off the street in the public hospital system so they all put in post dated resignations to take effect from today.
Anyway, they're now on $320k to $440k, as happy as pigs in s*it 'cause the Labour guvmint capitulated, and nobody seems to know about it!
There must be a lesson there, surely?!
Still reckon you're worth only a 3% to 5% salary increase?
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Do the sums!
Just cant tolerate different views huh, how 1970's. I must be a stooge, plant, troll or just an imbecile because I dare to challenge the mindless, no option position, that the ALAEA leadership and "thinkers" like you have got us into. Over what ? Well just do the sums genius, starting with overtime lost. If you need help I will have somebody come over and sharpen your crayons. The pity of it is that in 2 years time you'll be blaming everybody else, the company, the govt, the exchange rate and Collingwood supporters for the work and carreers that have permanently gone offshore. Newsflash - we dont all worship at the ALAEA leadership alter, some of us think we have the right to disagree, even if it does mean you and your thug mates threaten us and our families - Cousins and his storm tropers have it wrong and when and if they come back with 5%, and you run around proclaiming a victory - do the sums! Oh, I forgot, new crayons please!
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If my memory serves correct. A bunch of people tried a similar scheme once.
Was stupid then and still is.
Doctors can resign from hospital system and work private practice etc I remember the Docs resigning from the hospital system just before 89 due to money paid by Medicare......
Your example is Not the best comparison to our fracas
Now I will take cover in a foxhole to avoid incoming abuse
Apologies to the mods for mentioning the war
These guys weren't happy with salaries of $180K to $220k for dealing with deadbeats off the street in the public hospital system so they all put in post dated resignations to take effect from today.
Was stupid then and still is.
Doctors can resign from hospital system and work private practice etc I remember the Docs resigning from the hospital system just before 89 due to money paid by Medicare......
Your example is Not the best comparison to our fracasNow I will take cover in a foxhole to avoid incoming abuse
Apologies to the mods for mentioning the war
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Errr!!...who's 37 talking to? 
...and Bolty, I wasn't suggesting that you resign, I was suggesting that I thought you were worth more than 5%. But look, if you don't want my support consider it withdrawn ok?
...and Bolty, I wasn't suggesting that you resign, I was suggesting that I thought you were worth more than 5%. But look, if you don't want my support consider it withdrawn ok?
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Well just do the sums genius, starting with overtime lost.
The only thing that you can count on is a fair and reasonable base pay rate. We all have our own budgets to manage in these "tough times". Not just you GD. In fact, I would consider ours much more important. This is why a fair pay must be negotiated in good faith through an EBA process. Not 3% "signed off by the board" simply thrown at us, whilst they help themselves to generous profits.
I do not believe this to be an unreasonable request.