Merged: QANTAS/ALAEA EBA

[Hardworker]

3% & a Grade

Well think its past that now, its 5% no matter what they offer up. The media will roast the ALAEA and Dickson will be seen as a hero making them LAME's only take 3%
I wont vote for anything less than 5% and I believe the majority will hold the same view point...

[sickofqf]

ngineer said;

PS; to sickofqf, re 80% dispatch reliability.

I believe they call it the "dead cat bounce".......

Glad to see it is exactly that....a mere anomaly.....back to 51% today!!!

Good work chaps.......QF11 8 hours late and counting..........GREAT SUCCESS!!

[Bolty McBolt]

kotoyebe
There appears to me to be a loss of momentum over the last 4 days. Or is it the calm before the storm? Today was ugly, but it was mainly the fog

Loss of momentum. I don't think so, Last weeks "appalling" dispatch record was due the ripple effect of the 4 hour stoppage over time bans and Melbourne FOG.

I would say calm before the storm as I have just read the hold item figures in the latest ALAEA notice. This list of holds and MELs will take effect as adjacent systems start to fail and leave the aircraft with NO MEL relief All this as the new OPS managers are trying to micro-manage the fleets MELs to prevent this from happening but you can't get blood out of a stone. To little to late but these new OMs have to look like they are doing something……
The aircraft will be parked no parts or manpower and nobody to care.

As many have posted. Lets be patient. Well done management. Your house of cards is about to topple. Its your bed and you can lie in it.

From what I understand the check done is Singapore was a bare bones check to set the clock back, nothing was fixed

I think you find this one went to Hong Kong
Is this the A/C that was carrying an internal fuel leak defect for best part of a month running on an EA prior to its visit to an out sourced heavy maint check last month?
Base maint should be given just as much time not to fix the same defect

[Collando]

Beware grade increases

After 911 QF came up with the offer of a grade increases in lui of a rise in our base rate. Ok at the time but this ploy has been successfully used over the last 10 years to decrease our base rate relative to other proffessions. How many other occupations have had their base rate only increase 17% over 10 years, while house prices have tripled and cost of living doubled.

How do grade increases affect QF Lames in the long term.

Well although it seems pretty good to those LAMES already employed at QANTAS, it means that new starters come in at base rates that have changed little over time and relative to the world around us.Yes it looks good at first but you are also keeping the base rates down at the higher levels that you havent reached yet,so you shoot yourself in the foot there.
Not to mention It is screwing the AMEs, many who are your friends, that are up and coming LAMES.
This also will ultimately mean lower super for those affected as this is also only paid on base rate.

As a collective it is a short term gain but ultimately as a group and for future LAMEs and employees its a cop out.

Please focus on 5%+5%+5% and watch wage levels creep back to what they should be for everyone now and in the future

[WOLVERINES]

Hard Yards

You are on the money cougar that is the same man. FYI he struggled on the 330 course too but learnt how to dog the blokes and suck enough ass to get himself through.We never forget but looks like he has cause the union fought for his job but i doubt they will again. bad times ahead no flights.Ass kissing cant save you forever.

[Nasty Piece of Work]

Wait patiently by the river and you will see the dead bodies of your enemies float by

or

Hit the body and the head will die

or

patience is a virtue

51% OTP - perhaps someone threw a spanner or screwdriver in the works

[chemical alli]

Bet there is some ass puckering tech service men writing EA,s and having eternal nightmares everytime the phone rings.Only so many holds atp,s ea,s before the big one.

[AEROMEDIC]

"Still, won't be as good as 245 but no doubt will be far better than the crap coming out of AVV with the 457's and the handful of ALAEA-rule-bending a-lick company heros who see nothing and sign everything

Hope they don't expect a jot of support when AVV gets closed down...... "

You're being a bit rich claiming this against your fellow ALAEA members at AVV.
Avalon QF and Forstaff LAME's are doing their jobs competently and are looking to support where they can.
Unfortunately, there is no action they can take legally at this time, but their EBA is stagnant too. Fed Sec says no action required presently, so their turn will come.
In the meantime, don't slag off without cause or proof.

[wallabyvet]

Hi sickofqf

As an AVV Lame I would like you to know that I havn't seen to many "Heros" down here. We are all behind the action being carried out and will support the cause to the last man. Same as everyone else I have not seen this much unity for a long time and am actually begining to enjoy going to work again. Just remember a little unity goes a long way so would suggest keeping your posts about AVV "Above the line"........Sorry, To much tree hugging on my part, wont do it again..........

[wanty]

Originally Posted by chemical alli

Bet there is some ass puckering tech service men writing EA,s and having eternal nightmares everytime the phone rings.Only so many holds atp,s ea,s before the big one.

Ring Ring, Ring ring.

"Hello,Mr tech service man, can you please issue me an EA to fly VXA to sydney at 14.00 today. I know we're meant to have 2 wings but one has fallen off and we have no mel relief for it. Please, please can we have that EA, we really do need it as we have a safe hand package (Kryspey cream donuts)that must arrive in Sydney by 16:00 at the latest. Thats right, there for a senior managers get together this afternoon,apparently a new bidder has been found for QF and the board really want to set a good tone for the meeting,uh hu,thats right,my local manager told me everything will be fine."

Tech servicing "Well as long as it has management approval,I don't see a problem, you'll get your EA. Just remember to tell the pilot flying to Sydney to hold the column hard over to the left and enjoy the
flight"

Bumlick engineer "Beauty, thanks for that, hey one last question though.Do you think the managers would mind if I took one of the donuts first before safe handing them to Sydney ??? "

Tech servicing " Of course they won't mind m8, they always share the company spoils.........................."

[BluIce]

To all,

for anyone with access to an Aircraft Allocations Plan.

Take notice of extended ground time in LAX as S1 checks.

Things may not always be what they seem.

Blu.

[chemical alli]

sic of qf

Please retract or edit your post pertaining to the workmanship of lames in avv. Every lame job kept onshore whether in avv or bne heavy keeps another member within the alaea rank and file.This is not a pissing competition gentlemen.

[Wobulator]

sickofqf

Yeah M8. Delete yr post ....take 10 deep breaths ....and think b4 U type.

[indamiddle]

what the hell is going on with the classics? 485 just arrived melper. 802permel cxxx (planned departure 1300) 485 tomorrow melper cxxx

[Boardman]

Where do they get 'em?

Our maint system is a mess since the new "Team" took over.

I wonder how much research went into these guys past history and performance before they were put into such critical positions?

Let's say good old MH for example.
Word from State Rail is he stuffed them up as well and is STILL on the most hated list. This is from a very reliable source, a State Rail boss.

Blew in, made a mess, then off to cause havoc at his next port of call.

Imagine going through life being hated where ever you go. You would think the penny would drop after a while.

I don't feel sorry for the guy because he seems to enjoy himself.

Maybe he had the crap beat out of him at school everyday? Hope so!

In the good old days you would take him to the Bird Bath. He would have definetely got his name on a Plague on the one in the back of H131.

A basic Juggernaut. Like a train wreck that keeps going on and on.

[NAS1801]

Blew in, made a mess, then off to cause havoc at his next port of call.

What I like to call the Segull style of management..... come flying in from out of nowehere, making a lot of noise, take out of the place whatever you can get you beak on, crap all over everything making a huge mess then f#ck right off!

[Sunfish]

Please keep your cool gentlemen. I suspect that Qantas still has a few tricks up it's sleeve. One of them will be deliberate provocation - dismissing someone on the spot or suchlike - don't take the bait! ANother might well be legal action. Be careful what you say!

Be aware that even cornered rats will lash out and try to fight.

Do exactly what your Fed. Sec. says, no more, no less, and stay absolutely legal - no threats, etc.

BTW, and off topic, but the article posted by D.P. Gumby about the failed APA bid for Qantas is priceless, but I'm not going to repost the link because I think the article is untrue and libellous, and if QF Board and Management doesn't take legal action over it today, I will be surprised.

[cpiom]

and u fu**ers in Cairns have 3 scum working more o/t than they have in their lives.

Is it true that one of them learnt from his father who was a $cab in 89?
Another sat and watched the asn spend $60,000 to save his brother who was on manslaughter charges after he was involved in maintenance of an aircraft that turned into a coffin.

Not a nice attitude from a union exec member. But probably shows the union's contempt towards not only the company but also current members who don't do exactly as they are told or the individual exec members expect!!

[Sunfish]

......and right on cue, a troll appears. Add him to your ignore list. Contempt for scabs is as old as unionism, and for good reason.

[jakethemuss]

cpiom = troll

Sunfish,

The article in question is more than a month old. I would love to see Dixon attempt to spend shareholders money defending his (according to the article) failed buyout of the airline.

This year's AGM should be a cracker!