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Old 27th Jul 2008, 23:14
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Welcome back CASA!

"... we do know there were two oxygen bottles in that area, we do know they're a main focus of the investigation, and we think it's prudent to put safety first, to get inspections done now rather than wait any longer," CASA spokesman Peter Gibson told reporters on Sunday

Now that's safety before schedule. Facts are FAA flagged a relevant inspection 4 months ago.

The new CEO has been announced, Qantas will become Jetstar!

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Old 27th Jul 2008, 23:45
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'CASA thinks it's prudent to put safety first'.

Wow CASA thinks! When will it DO?

I think CASA should KNOW it's prudent to put safety first and address the real issues that have dogged the industry over the last few years.

CASA to take action? Let me borrow from another Aussie expression, 'Pigs Arse!'.
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 00:24
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Alan Joyce new ceo

OMG!! Love to be a fly on the wall at PG's and JB's offices.
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 06:10
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You must be right, that's why we had hundreds of the Sydney 245 boys banging on the scab gate, like visions from the great depression. $100K in six months would have drawn your insinuation into light. It didn't, now away with your sob story. Skill shortage means a willingness to manage institutionalised mental illness, especially when it comes of this standard, at this price. Your reference to 'union baggage' is simple idiocy
LOW said he was frustrated at being tarnished by ill informed opinons from prospective employer about being a former QF employee. I had exactly the same problem years ago (long before industrial action) when I left so whilst it might be idiocy it is genuine. I along with others are proof you can get past it, and I hope LOW does too, but it's unfortunate that even before you turn up for interview their caution bells are ringing.

My understanding is that your Strikebreakers were largely exQF, being 're-employed' by QF. Completely different circumstance.

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Old 28th Jul 2008, 06:27
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Why are there still Alternate workforce people being sent up to LAX? Looks like theres an EX DMM, Manager, and a small furry stocky australian animal going up there.

I thought the action was over.....not!
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 06:57
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One can only assume that QF are amending the wording of the so called
Agreement and what comes out in black and white is tainted yet again.

Until the Fat Lady Sings!!!!!

P.S. and then some.
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 08:55
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Well, I think the fat lady did sing...

the other day when the oxy bottle let go!

I reckon you guys settled a week too early!!!!
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 09:32
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Looks like theres an EX DMM, Manager, and a small furry stocky australian animal going up there.

That's a laugh, sounds like a script from a 3 stooges episode.
Would that be the type of animal that eats, roots and leaves?
A true legend, a walking disaster area, then an ex dmm and
manager. I reacon they will create more work than they clear,
if they don't injure themselves first.
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 11:08
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feedback on feedback meetings

Any feedback from CNS or BNE members' feedback meetings presuming they went ahead?
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 13:21
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More of the Future!

Just a note to those going yeh ha…. By doing overtime, of which you still have every right to decline, you are propping up the continued overseas ‘A’ check program till a time that they have sufficient resources to relegate Sydney as a Transit stop only. Those working Sydney can see that even though we have withdrawn from PIA, there are no plans to bring back ‘A checks’ on any large scale again.
Winning a better EBA outcome is one thing, but forcing them to hire more troops should be, in my opinion, the major consideration, as when our numbers dwindle how so easy to get rid of us. For those younger LAME’s, if you are committing yourself to a large mortgage how much do you need the short term windfall of O/T compared to a longer term of employment
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 20:16
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you are spot on JETS ON,the number of people must increase if QE is to survive,the less of you all only makes it easier for management to close u down full stop
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 22:21
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QF gets new CEO.
Spud phucker !
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Old 29th Jul 2008, 10:06
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Re Joyce

I have always subscribed to the theory that you should treat everyone as you find them.
If he turns out to be of the same ilk as the last, we will soon know about it and there will be repercussions for him.

I have had a couple of interesting conversations of late.

One of these was with a JS hostess who said that she had found him to be a pompous ass, because he ignored her input at a meeting.

The other conversation was with someone who has been there since the start of the JS operation.
Seems that J waited by the cockpit, chatting with the crew, till the pax got into their seats, which, at that time, were unallocated.
He then just sat down in one of the remaining seats.
Then, after the flight he helped the hostesses fold the blankets etc, and left.
Also (after meetings with pilots) he would open the bar and have an open conversation about the real dramas, thereby negating the buffer level which his underling managers normally put between the boss and the workers.

That to me sounds good, but the proof will be in the pudding.

He may have been singled out to remove the other two pretenders to the throne and to be earmarked for removal at a later date.

Or he may be there to make Qantas a subsidiary of JS.

Or, maybe, just maybe, he may be good for us all.

Time will tell.

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Old 29th Jul 2008, 11:26
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News Flash

It appears that the ‘buck stops here’ is an expression that you only find in the Hollywood movies. Why the American authorities don’t seem to want to pursue someone at the top for Racketeering sends an unclear message. Then again, 40 million of company money and a scapegoat seems to satisfy someone. Then again, maybe that’s the clear message! If you’re a junior manager then be prepared to do time if the s*&t hits the fan or deck or something!
No O/T for me.
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Old 29th Jul 2008, 23:06
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I'm with you, Jets on. No o/t for me either.
Also, still need to see/ hear the final proposal from the company before I decide on a yes/ no vote.
Then o/t after that ????? Probably not. Because whatever the outcome of this EBA there still remains the problem with current management ! "buggery campain" !!!! I'll show them buggery ! Iv'e been buggered by professionals before, they are farkin amatures !
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 04:03
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No OT for me either. Not until something is done about our current QE management. My manager used to work for IR in a bank. Need I say anymore. PIA may be over but now we return to the pathetic on time performance that was before PIA. It will be amusing how these idiots try to fix the problems they created. The "Dying Kangaroo" what a shame!
Thanks a million ALAEA who would have thought we could have stuck it to them the way we did. And we really didn't have to do that much, just follow their stupid procedures. And to our new CEO time to bring in the broom and sweep our AMAZING management away.
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 07:02
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Feedback meetings

Anyone got any comments on how the meetings have gone so far and what general feeling has been?
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 14:00
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So which maint org is to blame for the recent incidents hitting the media?
I thought the union said industrial action wouldn't effect safety?
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 22:44
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EP
Did the industrial action cause the incident?
Do you work for the ATSB?
Have you concluded the investigation?
Can you give a report of your findings?
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 00:30
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5arsemonkey.
I think my manager used to smuggle donuts !
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