Merged: QANTAS/ALAEA EBA

[Anulus Filler]

So how about it journo's? How about actually hooking in and actually asking QF some tough questions than merely parroting the words of others? Or is that too much to expect?

That depends if the advertising account has been paid.

[hewlett]

biTch.....I too have a friend with an illness I believe to be terminal.Bad advice from those meant to treat the illness appears to be the problem, however, I am still hopeful others may be found that may be able to cure the rot before its too late.Its like watching an arsenic ridden rat quietly crawling off into a corner to die.
On a brighter note I am assured by those on the way to La La Land that the punters will receive the facts only in any PA or personal contacts,no propaganda allowed.Unlike the despicable tactics anonymously employed in the terminal in canetoad county in days past.
The bro's from the Land of the Long White Cloud tell of a similiar impasse over wages recently.The CEO had the balls to come down to the hangar floor and thrash the issues out with the troops,achieving middle ground and I think a lot of respect.How about it Dicko you could even bring that weasel kb(not deserving of caps) as your second?

[Roy&HG]

We hear all the time that Qantas is spending Billions on new aircraft and that it is one of the reasons they can not give 5% , In fact they are buying these planes then flying them into international waters and selling then to the banks leasing companies via a tax loop hole . So yes they are spending Billions on new planes but collecting the money straight back within days!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for taking a pay freeze, what about the share bonus. Instead of taking a dollar value pay rise management are pocketing share options.

[opalops]

Maybe you also need to include in your eba that MH & DC be removed from their positions as all trust has gone and never to be regained, After this dispute is over how can they be effective managers OH I guess they never were effective managers in the first place good luck guys keep up the good work.

[stiffnut]

I personally think that it's more than mh and dc that we have to get rid off, we have to go further down the food chain to make engineering healthy again.

[speedbirdhouse]

Now that pprune is firmly in the puplic eye it might be prudent to mention some recent activity relating to the website.

It's been brought to my attention that QF "may" be trying to identify the identity of individuals who post on this site.

Specifically those who "may" post contrary to QF managements interests.

Those with interests who "may" wish to continue to bully, harass, intimidate and threaten in an effort to maintain what [at Qantas] is largely a scared and therefore compliant, workforce.

Are those receiving private messages via this site able to identify IP addresses, email accounts or the like?

A number of regulars to this site have received rather strange invitations to "private message" new joiners.............

[magoo31]

I received one of those, reply very carefully, don't give anything away.

[QF94]

QANTAS Super Brands

Go to this link and see the guff about QF and its corporate responsibility.

Brand Details

"Qantas is committed to the highest standards of corporate social responsibility and is a proud financial and hands-on supporter of a wide range of community, arts and sporting organisations."

Shame they don't support their own company!!

"The Product

All Qantas aircraft are maintained to the highest standards and are flown by some of the world’s most experienced pilots. Qantas also undertakes engineering, pilot and cabin crew training for customer airlines."

Customer airlines are virtually a thing of the past!!

Qantas has one of the largest aircraft engineering and maintenance operations in the Asia Pacific region and has a global reputation for operational excellence and safety.

Notice they don't include Australia!!

"Brand Values

Qantas is one of Australia’s leading brands, with the kangaroo symbol representing a proud history focused on reliability, safety, engineering excellence and customer service."

QF is now 14th, and the Kangaroo is a symbol that is to be culled by Management. Reliability is a fallacy. Safety is fast diappearing, engineering excellence has some vague meaning in Malaysia and customer service only exists for shareholders and managers alike!!!

"Things you didn't know about Qantas

• Qantas was the first airline in the world to introduce Business Class.
• A Qantas engineer invented the “black box”.
• Hollywood superstar John Travolta became a Qantas staff member in June 2002, and earned his 747 wings.
• Qantas is the oldest continuously operating airline in the world.
• The design on Wunala Dreaming – the red Qantas 747-400 painted with an Aboriginal design - includes 1324 irregular dots.
• A Qantas engineer invented the inflatable safety slide."

• QANTAS was also the first airline in the world to destroy its reputation and put shareholders over and above the paying/flying public and staff
• A QANTAS manager invented the system to trash their own staff
• John Travolta should maybe replace David Cox as engineering manager. At least he knows about aeroplanes!!
• QANTAS is actaully the second oldest continuosly operating airline in the world. KLM is older!!
• The design of management has 1324 irregular idiots!!
• A QANTAS manager invented an inflatable dildo to screw their staff. Inflation size and pressure depends on how much to screw you!!

If management was so keen to protect the "brand", they would actually pull their heads out of their collective anal passages, clean the crap from their ears and eyes, and look at what's happening to the "brand" they're destroying.

That's enough of a rant from me. I Feel better now. (Medibank Private)

[tail wheel]

"Are those receiving private messages via this site able to identify IP addresses, email accounts or the like?"

No!

But observe the same standards of anonymity in your Private Messages as you would in your posts to this or any other thread.

If you receive a peculiar or suspicious PM or email, send on to me via PM or email to [email protected]

Tail Wheel

[UP D Date]

Saw EBX last night, with not one spare space in its hold item log, cabin and tech logs....... but of course it was sent out again because OGE still grounded with stut cracks, and OJE has too many fuel leaks!! We need a few pilots to start refusing to fly them..... or maybe CASA will grow some balls and finally stand up to QF

[NAS1801]

Bill Shorten!!!! If I could, I'd buy you a beer! PLEASE convey your message to your boss and colleagues in parliment and make sure the plight of Qantas Engineers is not missed by our government!

[mel applied]

excellr8

We need leadership now not managment.

Your ALAEA executive team is leading, QF management is an oxymoron.

Just finished my (4 days on) shift and haven't laffed so much for ages. Some very stressed/angry/unable to cope managers around at the moment. I've got my smile back, life is a giggle, big weekend on the piss planned. Close the place down. It's over. Thanks to the Rainman for the plug 20 years ago. Not even you would want to fly this airline these days. Try getting over your fear of cars - and fuel prices. Life goes on.

[stiffnut]

Brings back great memories, Rainman plugging Qantas, John Menadue, a great boss who knew how to look after his employees, until the govt. of the time thought it wasn't a good idea for employees to work for a company that liked and respected them. Wouldn't it be nice for Qantas Management to actually like us. Sorry bit of a pipe dream there.

[Suk MaDong]

Hi all. New here and just testing. Please be gentle. Is Newport Aviation a good company to work for? Do they pay good money? On time?

[crow17]

Public Opinion

Now that we have seen the prune mentioned at the SMH it would be interesting to hear from the public who have now found this site and have read for themselves our side of the PIA. We have longed for the public to see the lies that FOG has said be brought to a more public arena.
So anyone that is new to this site and are not Engineering/Flightcrew/Cabincrew/Ground staff etc, we would like to hear your opinion on our plight and what your take on the subject is.
Cheers Crow

[stiffnut]

Thanks Colonel for your expertise, much appreciated, but i really don't care if the idiots manage to find out who i am, as what are they going to do, give me a package, i'll be the first among many who are queing up for it, also just remember when they get rid of us they won't need all those managers to manage the very few people that they have left, that includes all the f' wits in hr, to be honest i would not know what kb looks like, that's a lot to say about a person that's supposed to be in charge of looking after our welfare.

[mister hilter]

crow17

good call mate. Sick and tired of management's doom and gloom. Are we being realistic or are we just an opportunistic bunch of money grubbing union thugs. Come one, come all and tell us what you think of us and our campaign.

[mel applied]

Well Suk MaDong, Newport Aviation are employing the strikebreakers (known here as scabs). Don't think they've been deployed yet, but there is a (unofficial) list with their names on it. Apparently Qantas oxymorons aren't too happy with the list being open knowledge, but I say 'stiff farken ****' Don't try to white ant me and not expect a fight.

[NAS1801]

I think you will find Suk MaDong's post is a wind up.

[mel applied]

stiffnut

Caught the tail end of Menadue. Happy days indeed. Even his successor John Ward looks like a messiah these days