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SickOf It will speak volumns of this government to see their response. As the Black Panther has said it will be a very interesting week after Mondays meeting to watch the next stage unfold.
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PS: There will be no Gov intervention.
Big Kev might just come out and say "enough is enough of this corporate executive greed and mismanagement whilst keeping the worker pinned under the jackboot"
"The Australian Labor Party will table new legislation to prevent this from happening and we'll put a cap on executive snouts-in-troughs"
Whilst we're at it, The Federal Police have been despatched to arrest the CEO of Qantas for his part in the Worldwide Cargo Price Fixing Cartel.
(yeah I know, tell 'im he's dreamin' )
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Getaway advertising
I just watched another exhillirating episode of "Getaway", I have'nt watched it for a couple of weeks (soon realised why) but have just noticed something, please, can someone correct me if I'm wrong. At the end of each segment they used to say that you can get to this "blah blah blah" unaffordable destination by flying QANTAS. Instead, in tonights episode it was flying domestically to the locations by Virgin Blue and Internationally by ........ wait for it......... Air New Zealand. 
Bloody Hell, even the QF advertising department is on a stoppage, maybe the ALAEA will get the blame for this as well?
Or maybe, just maybe, the QANTAS product has deteriorated to such a level that even Virgin can hold their head high.
FOG
Bloody Hell, even the QF advertising department is on a stoppage, maybe the ALAEA will get the blame for this as well?
Or maybe, just maybe, the QANTAS product has deteriorated to such a level that even Virgin can hold their head high.
FOG
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Continuation Work Shortage
Isn't true, that even if the Government steps in we can still continue our own voluntary O/T ban and they can't dish out any reprisals. With a united membership we can carry the battle till GD falls on his sword.
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Qantas now directing flight crew to blame engineers in PA's
Just read on our pilot forum that the company has issued a directive to flight crew to make PA's during any delays directly blaming the Engineers OT bans ...which directly contradicts the company policy of avoiding apportioning blame for delays to other sections of the company during PA's to the cabin.
Hypocricy reigns supreme....
Hypocricy reigns supreme....
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Qantas now directing flight crew to blame engineers in PA's
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Dont forget this
Something I remembered as a kid ---- now applicable
WE THE WILLING, (Lame's)
LED BY THE UNKNOWING, (
)
ARE DOING THE IMPOSSIBLE, ( A-Checks + stuff)
FOR THE UNGRATEFUL, (G D ) FOG
WE HAVE DONE SO MUCH, FOR SO LONG, (pull Qf outa sh*t)
WITH SO LITTLE, (No Spares)
WE ARE NOW QUALIFIED TO DO ANYTHING WITH NOTHING.
In response to the 7.30 report the other night, the reporter to contact is Greg Hoy (ABC). He is very keen (with proof) to hear from us Lame's about the facts. I chatted with him at length yesterday, he ran with the story he did, as he didnt have any other information to the contrary. I will be speaking with him again next week. It blew him out of the water when I told him that the engineers in ADL took a 6% wage reduction due to forced rerostering from the company. ( Love you Perth guys) He is eager to learn more about our wages and the disparity that exists between QF and other organisations. He is also eager to speak with Lame's that have left the big RAT and moved on. Give it some thought if you can help out might be useful
nite all
Hopefully on Monday everything will be more positive, this avenue wont need to taken any further
WE THE WILLING, (Lame's)
LED BY THE UNKNOWING, (
)ARE DOING THE IMPOSSIBLE, ( A-Checks + stuff)
FOR THE UNGRATEFUL, (G D ) FOG
WE HAVE DONE SO MUCH, FOR SO LONG, (pull Qf outa sh*t)
WITH SO LITTLE, (No Spares)
WE ARE NOW QUALIFIED TO DO ANYTHING WITH NOTHING.
In response to the 7.30 report the other night, the reporter to contact is Greg Hoy (ABC). He is very keen (with proof) to hear from us Lame's about the facts. I chatted with him at length yesterday, he ran with the story he did, as he didnt have any other information to the contrary. I will be speaking with him again next week. It blew him out of the water when I told him that the engineers in ADL took a 6% wage reduction due to forced rerostering from the company. ( Love you Perth guys) He is eager to learn more about our wages and the disparity that exists between QF and other organisations. He is also eager to speak with Lame's that have left the big RAT and moved on. Give it some thought if you can help out might be useful
nite all
Hopefully on Monday everything will be more positive, this avenue wont need to taken any further
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Just read on our pilot forum that the company has issued a directive to flight crew to make PA's during any delays directly blaming the Engineers OT bans
Don't you just love the buck passing! Of course everything is someone else's fault, never, ever is it managements.
If true, I hope that this has been put out as an official Company notice or FSO with someones name appended at the bottom! If so, I'd love to see it. Of course those troublesome engineers have access to all the cockpit and cabin flight publications and we will be looking for it.
To ALL Captains, First Officers, Flight Engineers, Second Officers, CSM's, Flight Attendants, baggage handlers, check-in staff, ground handlers, we are only too happy to keep chipping away at Dixon and Browns wall. We definitely can't wait to help you all out when it comes your turn to attempt to forge an agreement with these clowns. We will not forget and will be right behind you as from your actions over the last several months we know that you are behind us. Your support and understanding is not forgotten. We can rebuild when these clowns are gone!
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Brace for base
yes my friends it is all coming to reallity
I would like to thank the six sigma for the leak
As the LAMES stick together it is great to know we have freinds on the other side.
Your efforts will be rewarded when all this is over and we can return the favour back to those who deserve it
Oh and dont worry we wont forget about the rest of the yes men
sleep well!!
I would like to thank the six sigma for the leak
As the LAMES stick together it is great to know we have freinds on the other side.
Your efforts will be rewarded when all this is over and we can return the favour back to those who deserve it
Oh and dont worry we wont forget about the rest of the yes men
sleep well!!
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Ops Ii Intam
To any C/C following this thread if you hear anyone making such a PA as "OPS II INTAM" as above,please let ALAEA know.
Said person might find themselves on another LIST.
Keg. I hope you have already sent him B.S. one
Said person might find themselves on another LIST.
Keg. I hope you have already sent him B.S. one
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Captains PA to pax on SYD-CNS lunch flight a couple of days ago
"HERE AT QANTAS, WE BELIEVE IN SAFETY BEFORE SCHEDULE"
some time later the aircraft pushed back with late but happy pax
"HERE AT QANTAS, WE BELIEVE IN SAFETY BEFORE SCHEDULE"
some time later the aircraft pushed back with late but happy pax
Nunc est bibendum
Haven't read the INTAM myself so can't speculate.
Currently I'm hoping that it's an error in reading and the purpose of the INTAM isn't actually to blame every 'engineering' delay on the industrial action. If it's just a matter of fact statement then I've got no problems laying out the facts- I made this comment on another unrelated thread and I'd hope that you guys would see this as us just being honest- but if it's asking me to blame things on industrial action that patently aren't the case or to be disparaging towards our engineers then it'll get treated with the contempt it deserves.
Of course, I'm not out of the sim for another few weeks yet so I won't have to worry about it unless you guys are still going hard in late July! For your sakes (and the sake of the airline) I hope it doesn't come to that!
Currently I'm hoping that it's an error in reading and the purpose of the INTAM isn't actually to blame every 'engineering' delay on the industrial action. If it's just a matter of fact statement then I've got no problems laying out the facts- I made this comment on another unrelated thread and I'd hope that you guys would see this as us just being honest- but if it's asking me to blame things on industrial action that patently aren't the case or to be disparaging towards our engineers then it'll get treated with the contempt it deserves.
Of course, I'm not out of the sim for another few weeks yet so I won't have to worry about it unless you guys are still going hard in late July! For your sakes (and the sake of the airline) I hope it doesn't come to that!
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Capt."been there before"
Capt C
From flight deck discussions to date, I can almost guarantee you 100% crew disobedience of that INTAM. What an insult to think we would do their dirty work!
Desperate decisions from desperate people.
Thank you & your colleages sir. C.C.
I hope no such list will be needed.
From flight deck discussions to date, I can almost guarantee you 100% crew disobedience of that INTAM. What an insult to think we would do their dirty work!
Desperate decisions from desperate people.
Thank you & your colleages sir. C.C.
I hope no such list will be needed.
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does anyone know, or even speculate, why QF5 is running 16 hours late 2 days in a row?
the LHR and LAX flights don't seem to be getting the same disruption. i will start off. 1/ we haven't forgiven the krauts over WW1 and WW2. LHR and LAX have more engineers than FRA. look fwd to any ideas. p.s. the 747-300 is scheduled to cover the catholic jihad and they had all better start praying now if they want it running on time, regardless of o/t ban and other pia actions
the LHR and LAX flights don't seem to be getting the same disruption. i will start off. 1/ we haven't forgiven the krauts over WW1 and WW2. LHR and LAX have more engineers than FRA. look fwd to any ideas. p.s. the 747-300 is scheduled to cover the catholic jihad and they had all better start praying now if they want it running on time, regardless of o/t ban and other pia actions