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FUMR 1st Nov 2022 09:52


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11323521)
Russia now evacuating the left (east) bank of the Dnipro in Kherson…..

What's behind that move? Are they indeed intending to flood the area?

fdr 1st Nov 2022 10:09


Originally Posted by FUMR (Post 11323583)
What's behind that move? Are they indeed intending to flood the area?


Or they have a complaint from OH&S on the hearing loss of their troops from all of the ruckus raised to the West of that point. As even Russia is not stupid enough to drown their own troops, seems like a reasonable precaution to take. If they blow the dam, they also get to be responsible for the subsequent 2500 tons of fuel being turned into the largest nuclear disaster in history. Vlad gets his name in the books for that one. There is about 30 years worth of fuel rods in the spent rod cooling ponds, and they are going to lose coolant. At least they won't set off a H2 pop, it'll just be 2500 tons of meltdown of corium to the water table to mess up the Black Sea and Mediterranean water table. What could possibly go wrong with that?

Timmy Tomkins 1st Nov 2022 10:14

Dog in the manger
 

Originally Posted by fdr (Post 11323596)
Or they have a complaint from OH&S on the hearing loss of their troops from all of the ruckus raised to the West of that point. As even Russia is not stupid enough to drown their own troops, seems like a reasonable precaution to take. If they blow the dam, they also get to be responsible for the subsequent 2500 tons of fuel being turned into the largest nuclear disaster in history. Vlad gets his name in the books for that one. There is about 30 years worth of fuel rods in the spent rod cooling ponds, and they are going to lose coolant. At least they won't set off a H2 pop, it'll just be 2500 tons of meltdown of corium to the water table to mess up the Black Sea and Mediterranean water table. What could possibly go wrong with that?

Putrid is in full on Dog in the Manger mode now. If I can't have it you won't either. Remind you of anyone of Austrian origin with initials AH?

NutLoose 1st Nov 2022 10:28

Not known if it is real as not verified, appears to be the Admiral Makarov in harbour burning / smoking


AVIATION CONTENT

The downed Russian Heli on the ground.

https://twitter.com/UkraineRussia2/status/1587152890191400967?cxt=HHwWjsC-gaDJ2YYsAAAA

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dead_pan 1st Nov 2022 10:55


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11323612)
Not known if it is real as not verified, appears to be the Admiral Makarov in harbour burning / smoking

Initially I thought it may be lying low in the water, bow up, but if you look of pics of the vessel in happier times its evident it does feature a pronounced bow.

Given Russia's response its evident the Ukes did quite a bit of damage in their attack. Its a funny old game - the Ukes have some success (Moskva, Snake Island, the Kerch bridge, now Sevastopol), and Putin responds with an attack (usually one-off, rather than sustained) on some civilian infrastructure.

Ripton 1st Nov 2022 10:56


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11323612)
Not known if it is real as not verified, appears to be the Admiral Makarov in harbour burning / smoking

https://twitter.com/UkraineRussia2/s...Czxa3awocsAAAA

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That's one of the landing ships lost earlier in the year.

https://news.usni.org/wp-content/upl...hXwAAW4S3.jpeg

dead_pan 1st Nov 2022 10:57


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11323612)
The downed Russian Heli on the ground.

That'll buff ou...ahhh, probably not his time.

ORAC 1st Nov 2022 11:43

Ukrainian aerospace company Motor Sich president, Viacheslav Bohuslaev, sabotaged transfer of helicopters to🇺🇦Armed Forces - Prosecutor General

Bohuslaev ordered to dismantle of helicopters so that pilots couldn't use them.

https://euromaidanpress.com/2022/11/...rces/?swcfpc=1

NutLoose 1st Nov 2022 12:06

I see they still use ww2 foot wraps, have they not heard of thermal socks..



ORAC 1st Nov 2022 12:10

To which most British squaddies would say, snap……

Russian TV report about mobiks of the elite Kantemirovskaya division who were placed in molded emergency barracks.

NutLoose 1st Nov 2022 12:18

Mi 2 helicopter found in an Odesa freight container to be handed over to the military, Probably will end up as a spares ship in my opinion as they still operate them..


NutLoose 1st Nov 2022 12:32

Superb PR again from Ukraine.


SASless 1st Nov 2022 13:25

Wokkafans,

Would in not make better fieldcraft to assemble your demolition devices ahead of time so all you would have to do is place them, arm them, and beat feet rather than what is shown in the vide?

NutLoose 1st Nov 2022 13:26

Never leave a man behind..


Lonewolf_50 1st Nov 2022 14:49


Originally Posted by Winemaker (Post 11323466)
The Mig 9

That was interesting, and if nothing else an organizational culture case study of some quality as regards aviation.
"To land, you have to shut off the engine, no waveoff / no go around!" (Yikes!)
"Well, the problem of actually using the guns remains ..." (That one reminds me of some of our supersonic aircraft that had odd weapons-release anomalies back in the 50's and 60's.
There are any number of other acquisition programs, in a variety of places, that have similarly curious stories. But that is its own topic.

NutLoose 1st Nov 2022 15:04

Now I have heard it all, yes I am at war with you and yes we use the Black Sea Fleet to launch missiles at you...
BUT
Russia is ready to return to "grain deal" and allow bringing grain out of Ukraine if Kyiv guarantees the safety of the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea, - Russian media

that will be the grain deal everyone else seems to be carrying on with regardless of Putin.


BlankBox 1st Nov 2022 18:51

Tossing the Caber...


BlankBox 1st Nov 2022 18:59


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11323658)
I see they still use ww2 foot wraps, have they not heard of thermal socks..

I've come across recent pics of dead russkies all laid out...with no boots & no socks...chilling to look at...nothing sacred :sad:

But at least they still had their gotch...

MPN11 1st Nov 2022 19:11


Washington (CNN) - Iran is preparing to send approximately 1,000 additional weapons, including surface-to-surface short range ballistic missiles and more attack drones, to Russia to use in its war against Ukraine, officials from a western country that closely monitors Iran's weapons program told CNN.
Trust Iran to try to make a bad situation worse!

ORAC 1st Nov 2022 19:32

Belarus continues to transfer its military equipment to the Russian troops. Here an echelon of 20 BMP-2s left for Luhansk.

Thus, over the past month, the Belarussian government has transferred to the needs of Russia:

- at least 94 T-72A tanks
- 36-44 Urals
- 20 BMP-2


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