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NutLoose 31st Oct 2022 12:56

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fdr 31st Oct 2022 13:03


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11323071)
Another mass missile attack this morning.

As grotesque as each one of these attacks is, and as much that they further blacken the name of Russia, they are acting to increase the resolve of the Ukrainians, giving motivation with each impact, and diminishing Russia's stockpile of weapons to use against actual militarily significant targets.

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.”

Russia is ensuring the earlier failure of their federation by every day that they continue this needless ego trip of V.V. Putin.

NutLoose 31st Oct 2022 13:18

Agreed, it reminds me of London during WW2 they may be hitting cities and civilian targets, but they are wasting and using up precious missiles, while the Army grows stronger and targets their military assets and capability to wage war..


fdr 31st Oct 2022 13:18


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11323091)
I don't care what you say, that poor bastard didn't deserve to end like that. Warning Graphic
https://twitter.com/esse_uma/status/...C4hdTzjIYsAAAA

Over 70 spent 152 cases.... He has been raining destruction on defenders of a state that his country has invaded to fulfil the ego of one guy. He may have been a composer, an artist, a teacher, but now he is probably a terrible memory with his family. Perhaps that acts to bring home the brutality of what the Russians have been considering as being a glorious fight against... what, Nazi's, mosquito virus programs, dirty bombs??? The existential threat to Russia resides from within the walls of the Kremlin, and the sooner that the Russian population get that point from their propaganda media, if ever, then the sooner they bring home their surviving kin. So far there is supposedly around 70K RUF dead, 3 times that injured, and the interceptions suggest that those figures are not exaggerated, they may be under reported. Back home, that impacts 5 - 10 times as many family, friends and other military that have not been to the front, but who will get the story. There is no way that the truth of what has happened in Ukraine by the Russians doesn't get to be known fully in the wider population, and at that point, Vlad may be wishing for as much support and care as Mussolini and Nicolae Ceaușescu received from their fans after the wheels fell off their delusions.

NutLoose 31st Oct 2022 13:20

I get that, Just a terrible way to die, he should have rolled over and over to try to put it out, but I guess he had other things on his mind.

NutLoose 31st Oct 2022 13:22

Training Russian style, don't teach so he will learn, just shout..


Video Mixdown 31st Oct 2022 13:37


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11323114)
Training Russian style, don't teach so he will learn, just shout.

Quite apart from the demented instructor and inept trainee - safety off then cock the weapon?

Wokkafans 31st Oct 2022 13:50

May be pay walled for some.

"Russia has declared hybrid war on Britain. Putin will undermine our national infrastructure by any means possible, but Whitehall is still in denial"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...mpaign=DM56238

Wokkafans 31st Oct 2022 14:33

The Russians are rather unhappy with the UK.


Low average 31st Oct 2022 14:53

So was Hitler.

Ninthace 31st Oct 2022 15:13


Originally Posted by Wokkafans (Post 11323131)
May be pay walled for some.

"Russia has declared hybrid war on Britain. Putin will undermine our national infrastructure by any means possible, but Whitehall is still in denial"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...mpaign=DM56238

Reds under the beds!

Winemaker 31st Oct 2022 16:05


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11323114)
Training Russian style, don't teach so he will learn, just shout..



https://twitter.com/itsMontaybaybay/...25953002938369

The snow on the ground makes me think this is an old video; I checked both Kyiv and Moscow weather and it's still warmish.

PukinDog 31st Oct 2022 16:08


Originally Posted by Video Mixdown (Post 11323125)
Quite apart from the demented instructor and inept trainee - safety off then cock the weapon?

On an AK the safety must be Off in order to charge it. If On, the safety will mechanically block the action from cycling fully.

NutLoose 31st Oct 2022 16:41

Real or simulated?



uxb99 31st Oct 2022 16:41

News reports America to accelerate the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons to front line Nato countries.
Upping the ante.

uxb99 31st Oct 2022 16:43


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11323220)

The speed of the missile from launch to target is quite frightening. No chance to avoid that.

NutLoose 31st Oct 2022 16:52

Turkey calls Russia bluff and ignores the grain shipment embargo.



uxb99 31st Oct 2022 16:59


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11323114)
Training Russian style, don't teach so he will learn, just shout..



https://twitter.com/itsMontaybaybay/...25953002938369

I think the trainee is behaving more appropriately than the instructor. If you are not experienced handling a weapon and have had improper training, I think your own common sense will kick in and tell you not to fire it.
What the trainee needs is training on how to handle the weapon before actually firing it.

Tartiflette Fan 31st Oct 2022 17:01


Originally Posted by uxb99 (Post 11323221)
News reports America to accelerate the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons to front line Nato countries.
Upping the ante.

Not really. This is a replacement for weapons already deployed and does not - as publicised - do anything to increase explosive yield, just accuracy.

MPN11 31st Oct 2022 17:08


Originally Posted by uxb99 (Post 11323229)
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What the trainee needs is training on how to handle the weapon before actually firing it.

100% … dry drills until the controls and processes are 2nd nature … and only then go on a range with live rounds. Shouty instructors just shut down the recipient’s mental orocesses.


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