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uxb99 31st Oct 2022 17:33


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11323226)

twitter reports that Russia has attacked civi tug boats assisting the convoy. Several killed say unconfirmed reports.

Video Mixdown 31st Oct 2022 17:33


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 11323234)
100% … dry drills until the controls and processes are 2nd nature … and only then go on a range with live rounds. Shouty instructors just shut down the recipient’s mental orocesses.

Quite. I can't help thinking the whole thing may be a spoof, with the 'trainee' deliberately acting the fool. Given the order to fire, who on earth would remove the magazine?

nevillestyke 31st Oct 2022 17:38


Originally Posted by Video Mixdown (Post 11323248)
Quite. I can't help thinking the whole thing may be a spoof, with the 'trainee' deliberately acting the fool. Given the order to fire, who on earth would remove the magazine?

Someone who would prefer to be moved to a desk job?

MPN11 31st Oct 2022 18:07


Originally Posted by nevillestyke (Post 11323252)
someone who would prefer to be moved to a desk job?

✔️✔️ 😀

Wokkafans 31st Oct 2022 18:20

More on the two tug boats being attacked. There is an image circulating of what is claimed to be a tug boat on fire - I checked and this dates from 2019.



NWSRG 31st Oct 2022 19:58

Seems that all US military aircraft in Europe are no longer showing on trackers.

NutLoose 31st Oct 2022 21:33

UN saying they will act as guarantor’s of food safety.


ORAC 31st Oct 2022 21:58

BREAKING: Norway has placed its military at its higher state level of alert

Norway will now strengthen its security in a more systematic fashion from tomorrow.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ia-ukraine-war

meleagertoo 31st Oct 2022 22:12


Originally Posted by Video Mixdown (Post 11323248)
Quite. I can't help thinking the whole thing may be a spoof, with the 'trainee' deliberately acting the fool. Given the order to fire, who on earth would remove the magazine?

My gut reaction is that this is far more likely anti-Russian propaganda than what it purports to be. It's simply too ridiculous and clumsy. And what Russian would ever disseminate such a damning clip?

nah

Hoax.

Video Mixdown 31st Oct 2022 22:21


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11323382)
And what Russian would ever disseminate such a damning clip?

A drunk stupid Russian. Seems to no shortage of them.

Wokkafans 31st Oct 2022 22:37

Ukrainian saboteur/sympathiser at work nobbling a Russian Ka-52 :


Winemaker 1st Nov 2022 03:07

Off topic, aviation content, but reflective of the Russian approach to weapons development. The story of the 'development' of the first Russian jet, the MIG-9, with some interesting referrals to the barriers to success and the way the Russians just sort of pushed ahead, ignoring problems and not testing. We still see the same things today in Ukraine.... Fascinating how things don't change.

Mods, If this is not appropriate please move or delete.


Beamr 1st Nov 2022 07:29


Originally Posted by Wokkafans (Post 11323396)
Ukrainian saboteur/sympathiser at work nobbling a Russian Ka-52 :

eh, what security doing?

If true, the incompetence of russkies on all levels is beyond belief.

DuncanDoenitz 1st Nov 2022 07:36


Originally Posted by NWSRG (Post 11323310)
Seems that all US military aircraft in Europe are no longer showing on trackers.

Agreed last night, but Forte, Jake, Reach, etc (and NATO) callsigns around the area of conflict on FR24 this morning.

FUMR 1st Nov 2022 07:40

Security is probably sleeping off the vodka!

ORAC 1st Nov 2022 07:45

Russia now evacuating the left (east) bank of the Dnipro in Kherson…..


Flying Binghi 1st Nov 2022 07:57


Originally Posted by Winemaker (Post 11323466)
Off topic, aviation content, but reflective of the Russian approach to weapons development. The story of the 'development' of the first Russian jet, the MIG-9, with some interesting referrals to the barriers to success and the way the Russians just sort of pushed ahead, ignoring problems and not testing.

Be mindful that not long before the Mig 9 flew that Patton had been pushing for continuing eastward into Russia. I’m sure the Russian higher command had knowledge of Pattons thoughts. The push to have an anti-bomber aircraft for the Allies to consider were likely the reason for just getting the Mig 9 up there - worry about it working later.

The Mig 9 is certainly a nice aircraft to look at. The wing outline reminds me of something? I reckon it would make a lovely little scaled down kit built..:)

ORAC 1st Nov 2022 08:04

Kerch Bridge Update: Minister of Transportation Savelev says that 250 light cars on average cross the bridge per hour.

Heavy cargo is being sent via occupied land corridor from Rostov oblast (7.5k trucks since Oct 8).

Only 16 train pairs have been sent across the bridge so far

ORAC 1st Nov 2022 08:17

Russian TG Helicopterpilot just confirmed that was Russian helicopter of PMC Wagner.
He wrote that one of the crew survived (injured).


Flugzeug A 1st Nov 2022 08:52


Originally Posted by Flying Binghi (Post 11323525)
Be mindful that not long before the Mig 9 flew that Patton had been pushing for continuing eastward into Russia. I’m sure the Russian higher command had knowledge of Pattons thoughts. The push to have an anti-bomber aircraft for the Allies to consider were likely the reason for just getting the Mig 9 up there - worry about it working later.

The Mig 9 is certainly a nice aircraft to look at. The wing outline reminds me of something? I reckon it would make a lovely little scaled down kit built..:)

(Could it be that the Mig 9’s similar - if anything can be!- to the Saab 29 Tunnen ? The Mig wing isn’t swept but , though I’m probably alone , it put me in mind of the Saab. An ungainly looking aircraft which apparently did way better than it looked as though it would. I have always liked it )
Sorry all for drift...


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