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ORAC 28th Sep 2022 06:31

Mobilised troops…

”What did you do in the war grandpa?”


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The Helpful Stacker 28th Sep 2022 07:01


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11303964)
Mobilised troops…

”What did you do in the war grandpa?”

Is that CCS training at RAF High Wycombe?

ORAC 28th Sep 2022 07:09

Going for the record. It will be hard to beat…

From mobilization to captivity in 3 days

NutLoose 28th Sep 2022 11:30

A frank look at the mobilised and well worth watching


ORAC 28th Sep 2022 11:53

Quality of the units turning up at the front - and these are the ones with some training - those mobilised haven’t arrived in numbers yet….

Pro-Russian Vostok battalion commander Aleksandr Khodakovsky tells about the dire situation with mobiks who do crazy stuff like driving into enemy positions and placing ammo in the open; blames generals for not establishing proper teamwork.


NutLoose 28th Sep 2022 12:05

This does not make sense, it shows a British soldier in Ukraine dragging / recovering the body of a dead American to safety... Who is filming it??

https://nexth.city/ukrainewar/dramat...russian-ambush

Beamr 28th Sep 2022 12:08


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11304193)
This does not make sense, it shows a British soldier in Ukraine dragging / recovering the body of a dead American to safety... Who is filming it??

That Nexth is utter garbage by default. It is a propaganda site. might as well not read it at all.

Ohrly 28th Sep 2022 12:15


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11304193)
This does not make sense, it shows a British soldier in Ukraine dragging / recovering the body of a dead American to safety... Who is filming it??



https://nexth.city/ukrainewar/dramat...russian-ambush

Russians in fancy dress.

Derfred 28th Sep 2022 12:28


Originally Posted by Winemaker (Post 11303300)
To have an EMP effect the explosion has to take place in the upper atmosphere. The effect wasn't discovered until an American high altitude burst 'Starfish Prime' took place, knocking out some power in Hawaii, 900 miles from the detonation center. The altitude of the shot was about 250 miles. A tactical low altitude burst wouldn't cause a major EMP event. It certainly would cause other effects.....

This video discusses Putin's EMP option from about the 20:20 minute mark - for example a high altitude burst over Brussels would take out components of the electrical grid and critical infrastructure from Poland to Ireland.

He also mentions that the Euro grid is not EMP hardened, whereas the Russian grid has been hardened. The US is supposedly looking at hardening their own grid.

The Mitchell Institute's Nuclear Deterrence and Missile Defense Forum hosts Dr. Peter Pry, Executive Director of Task Force on National and Homeland Security for a discussion on evolving events in Ukraine, the performance of the Russian military, NATO, U.S. responses, and implications for the future.


Xeptu 28th Sep 2022 12:48

It all continues to get worse. The conscripts are arriving with nothing to nothing, no support at all, no-one knows what to do, They will all starve and freeze to death within a month.

fdr 28th Sep 2022 13:28


Originally Posted by Xeptu (Post 11304225)
It all continues to get worse. The conscripts are arriving with nothing to nothing, no support at all, no-one knows what to do, They will all starve and freeze to death within a month.

They can place their underwear on their helmets, hold it up on a stick and hope the Ukranians are not related to people in Izium, Bucha, Mariuopol etc.

Probably worth removing them early for hygiene.

NutLoose 28th Sep 2022 14:20

A hit YPR765 appears to carry on burning possibly to give the rest of the column a protective smokescreen. If true that takes balls.


Rockie_Rapier 28th Sep 2022 15:39

Does anyone have anything further on the affect of sanctions on the opertional capability of the likes of Aeroflot with their fleets of A320 etc?

Its been a while now and Flight Radar shows plenty of Aeroflot operated flights still. Or are these simply carrying large number of deficiences?

Lonewolf_50 28th Sep 2022 15:42

Some Aviation Content from pasta and ORAC, originally posted at JB. This was related to "How does one know what caused the pipeline damage to Nordstreams?".

Originally Posted by pasta
There are a few states that are likely to have that capability, but I'd be amazed if Ukraine was one of them; even if it did, how would it get the appropriate asset all the way to the Baltic undetected? I saw some twitter posts suggesting the US had ASW assets in the area; I'm guessing they know exactly who's responsible.

While they may have gotten some evidence pointing in a given direction, shallow water ASW is a bit tricky.

Originally Posted by ORAC
Too deep for scuba, no dive support vessels for deep divers in the area. Too shallow for submarines. Which leaves UUVs. The only navy in the area which possesses UUV with the capability, and practices it, is Russia. The USA and others do, but they don’t have the assets in the Baltic. The USN had ASW helicopters searching the area a couple of days ago so presumably had detected something - I doubt they were attracting attention to any of their own assets.


melmothtw 28th Sep 2022 15:42


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11304267)
A hit YPR765 appears to carry on burning possibly to give the rest of the column a protective smokescreen. If true that takes balls.



https://twitter.com/Military_oO/stat...11562158964737

"If true..."

Shades of 'he stuck with the plane to avoid crashing into the school/nursery/orphanage' there, Nutloose. More likely not thinking of anyone or anything else other than his own self-preservation at that point, and was just trying to clear himself from the danger area. That the smoke from his burning vehicle obscured his comrades was little more than a happy happenstance, I'd suggest.

Lonewolf_50 28th Sep 2022 15:45


Originally Posted by melmothtw (Post 11304302)
"If true..."

Shades of 'he stuck with the plane to avoid crashing into the school/nursery/orphanage' there, Nutloose. More likely not thinking of anyone or anything else other than his own self-preservation at that point, and was just trying to clear himself from the danger area with the smoke from his burning vehicle obscuring his comrades being little more than happenstance.

(My underline) And in due course doubtless getting out of a burning vehicle.

MPN11 28th Sep 2022 15:48

I concur ... let's not turn all Ukranians into SuperHeroes.

Even though many of them undoubtedly are.

melmothtw 28th Sep 2022 15:51


Originally Posted by MPN11 (Post 11304306)
I concur ... let's not turn all Ukranians into SuperHeroes.

Even though many of them undoubtedly are.

Yep, they don't need us to exaggerate their achievements when their bravery and success on the battlefield is self evident.

DaveReidUK 28th Sep 2022 15:53


Originally Posted by Rockie_Rapier (Post 11304299)
Does anyone have anything further on the affect of sanctions on the opertional capability of the likes of Aeroflot with their fleets of A320 etc?

Its been a while now and Flight Radar shows plenty of Aeroflot operated flights still. Or are these simply carrying large number of deficiences?

Some discussion of the topic here: Aeroflot - Rejig - PPRuNe Forums

Piper_Driver 28th Sep 2022 16:44

Regarding Nordstream - is it possible that a cyber attack could have taken it out by manipulating the pumps and valves?


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