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ORAC 28th Sep 2022 22:44


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albatross 29th Sep 2022 00:59

In view of the rapidly approaching winter.
Perhaps Canada sending some off the shelf Snow Machines such as the Cam-Am ATV and Ski-doo snow machine may be a good idea.
Very useful in those conditions.
Hardly tanks and weapons but you have to. be able to move cross country in deep snow.behind the lines.
”You need to be able to Shoot, MOVE and Communicate.”.

Just a thought.

ORAC 29th Sep 2022 06:10

Why am I not surprised. Wagner recruitment of prisoners used as a means of money…

Gulagu.net share info on how Prigozhyn uses PMC Wagner to make good money off long-term convicts. By paying $70-100k they can stay in the hotels of the "LPR" for a while and disappear. Some even "die officially" with a new ID issued later.

t.me/NetGulagu/3436


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ORAC 29th Sep 2022 07:20

https://samf.substack.com/p/cannon-fodder

Cannon Fodder

What difference will mobilisation make to the war?

Lawrence Freedman

NutLoose 29th Sep 2022 10:54

So much for selective conscription, and again its the republics getting hit, not the Russian core.


NutLoose 29th Sep 2022 11:06

Russia is going to send 20,000 mobilized troops to Belarus, according to Ukrainian intelligence.


I tend to agree with one of the replies


My bet is they'll send conscripts there, and reassign the soldiers currently in Belarus to the front.

henra 29th Sep 2022 11:52


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11304841)
Russia is going to send 20,000 mobilized troops to Belarus, according to Ukrainian intelligence.

I tend to think that is because of some tendencies inside Belarus to loosen the ropes to mother Russia lately. If Belarus breaks away things will get even worse for Mad Vlad'.

Xeptu 29th Sep 2022 12:08


Originally Posted by henra (Post 11304873)
I tend to think that is because of some tendencies inside Belarus to loosen the ropes to mother Russia lately. If Belarus breaks away things will get even worse for Mad Vlad'.

I think all of the Russian federated states/countries must be ****ting their pants now that the whole world knows Russia's military is reduced to a paper tiger. It's over in Ukraine the only person who doesn't' know that is Putin, Lashenko'Belarus and Kadyrov/Chechnya must be seriously watching their backs now that the threat of Russia can't be taken seriously .Russians in Ukraine will have no choice, surrender or freeze to death and I'm sure most of them will be only too willing to do it.

ORAC 29th Sep 2022 12:58


How would you deploy such a weapon? Presumably that's what RAF Fylingdales is for?
Fylingdales is used to detect ICBM flight paths and track orbital objects. Neither of which would be a factor in the of a tactical nuke in Ukraine.

Russia possesses battlefield nukes - artillery and rocket - as well as SRBM, such as the Iskander. It was intelligence suggesting the Iskander deployed to Kaliningrad were equipped with nuclear warheads threatening Europe which led to the US withdrawing from the INF treaty.

They also have air launched ASM with nuclear warheads, such as the Kent and the Kickback, carried by the Bear and Blackjack. Though with their conventional versions having a reported success rate below 50% I’m not sure they’d risk using one.

None of which would be detectable by Fylingdales.

ORAC 29th Sep 2022 13:12

Belarus preparing to join war…

Our sources report: #Lukashenko agreed to deploy 120K soldiers 🇷🇺 during November-February. 🇧🇾 undertakes to supply 100K mobilized soldiers in addition.

Lukashenko is preparing for a full-scale war. The West must issue an ultimatum he cannot refuse

ORAC 29th Sep 2022 13:25

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/09/28...altic-finland/

Russia’s Has Stripped Its Western Borders to Feed the Fight in Ukraine

ORAC 29th Sep 2022 13:27

Russian MOD announced that most domestically produced drones do not meet technical requirements - mostly due to the “components base issues” that force “simplification” of drone models.…..

NutLoose 29th Sep 2022 13:53


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11304932)
Belarus preparing to join war…



Our sources report: #Lukashenko agreed to deploy 120K soldiers 🇷🇺 during November-February. 🇧🇾 undertakes to supply 100K mobilized soldiers in addition.

Lukashenko is preparing for a full-scale war. The West must issue an ultimatum he cannot refuse

Come Comrades, I am sending you to be slaughtered in Ukraine for Russia, while another 30,000 Russian forces will travel here to hide in our Country..... I can imagine his survival chances will drop dramatically.

dead_pan 29th Sep 2022 14:07


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11304932)
Belarus preparing to join war…



Our sources report: #Lukashenko agreed to deploy 120K soldiers 🇷🇺 during November-February. 🇧🇾 undertakes to supply 100K mobilized soldiers in addition.

Lukashenko is preparing for a full-scale war. The West must issue an ultimatum he cannot refuse

How many times has this been reported/speculated?? The simple fact is his forces would fail even more spectacularly than Russia's, and he would immediately face a revolution.

On the remote offchance I'm wrong about Belarus becoming an active participant in the conflict, I fully expect Poland would then get involved. They're already straining at the leash.

FUMR 29th Sep 2022 14:12

The question is does Ukraine have sufficient forces available to repel any incursion that may originate from Belarus?

NutLoose 29th Sep 2022 14:12

More gifts


Beamr 29th Sep 2022 17:26

Interesting, Russian government published a tender for iodine pills worth 5mln rubles. The tender has appeared on the Russian public procurement portal (EIS Procurement). The purchase is urgent with only 4 days allocated for the procedure. The supply is intended for the needs of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise SPC "Pharmzashchita" of the Federal Medical and Biological Agency of Russia (a federal body that ensures radiation, chemical, biological safety of the country and the population of the Russian Federation).

https://daily.dialog.ua/259420_1664262687

uxb99 29th Sep 2022 17:58


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11305075)
Interesting, Russian government published a tender for iodine pills worth 5mln rubles. The tender has appeared on the Russian public procurement portal (EIS Procurement). The purchase is urgent with only 4 days allocated for the procedure. The supply is intended for the needs of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise SPC "Pharmzashchita" of the Federal Medical and Biological Agency of Russia (a federal body that ensures radiation, chemical, biological safety of the country and the population of the Russian Federation).

https://daily.dialog.ua/259420_1664262687

My dad was in the Navy during WW2. He said if they were issued Piff Helmets and Summer Gear it was sure fire they were going to the Arctic.

MPN11 29th Sep 2022 18:00

Interesting! Paranoia? Or fear of the likely nuclear response to Putin’s next stupidity?

NutLoose 29th Sep 2022 18:28

Good to see they have all wrapped their surrender flags around their kit. ;)




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