That makes sense, if they can make sure the ship goes there. As an aside, wasn't it Kennedy that used the word "quarantine" about the Soviet ships heading to Cuba? He felt the word "blockade" amounted to an act of war.
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Originally Posted by wondering
(Post 11235208)
As much as I wish the Kyiv Independent numbers are accurate, I am afraid they are inflated. 205 planes? 170 helicopters? I´d rather stick to Orxy for a conservative assessment. Same for the UK daily intel update. Imho, way too optimistic. This will be a long bloody slog. Too early to tell who will wear down first. I am sure the Russians can still draw on some serious reserves. They could dig in, hold what they have and keep harassing the rest of Ukraine for years until the West gets tired. Just like in 2014.
At the moment the Donbas is a meat grinder. Ukrainians loosing lots of service members since Russians are outgunning them by a huge margin. Ukrainians need a lot more firepower to hold the Orcs back. For the sake of Ukraine I hope I am too pessimistic. I see this war developing into a modern WW1. Trench warfare with the addition of drones etc. Neither side has superiority in anything. This benefits the Ukrainians who can just slowly bleed Russia. The West getting bored may also be a factor. Yep, in for the long slog I think. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11235314)
https://twitter.com/NewVoiceUkraine/...42499264729088
https://news.yahoo.com/cnn-publishes...k=tw&tsrc=twtr It shows the stolen grain being loaded onto bulk carriers, surely the simple way around it is to prevent it leaving the black sea by means of a blockade where the ships could be seized and the grain removed before the ships are released, it could then be sold and the proceeds returned to Ukraine for them to recompense the farmers. |
Originally Posted by Herod
(Post 11235388)
That makes sense, if they can make sure the ship goes there. As an aside, wasn't it Kennedy that used the word "quarantine" about the Soviet ships heading to Cuba? He felt the word "blockade" amounted to an act of war.
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US Defence Intelligence agency assess that less than 40% of Russian missiles fired during the war in Ukraine have hit their intended targets. 20-30% fail to launch or crash in flight and many miss aiming points.
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-r...a-show-1709388 |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11235538)
US Defence Intelligence agency assess that less than 40% of Russian missiles fired during the war in Ukraine have hit their intended targets. 20-30% fail to launch or crash in flight and many miss aiming points.
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-r...a-show-1709388 On the theft of grain etc, oh for the days of putting up a jolly roger on a masthead and plinking some RPGs and ATKs at the bridge to stop the complicit parties in the theft of commodities by the Krimmins. Whatever the flag is of the ship, if they are actively engaged in theft, then a rude wake-up is not going to end up with hand wringing, wailing and renting of cloth. Any shipper dealing with a Russian moving cargo that may have come from the Russian theft from Ukraine has no morla and probably no legal top cover on their complicity in a genocide of Ukraine. Should be able to get a lot of Somali fishermen with recent experience in the tactical art of pi$$ing off shipping. The UN continues to do.... not a damn thing. The inclusion of an aggressor nation in the UN Charter in 1944 led to the workaround of that with NATO, in 1949. What is the next workaround of a world that post cold war is back to being polarised by authoritarianist aggressor regimes, and the rest of the world that is interested in doing business. Removing aggressor parties from the team is a necessity yet is where self interest continues to be an issue. When others cross borders in force it is aggression, when the rest do the same it is often considered as something else. |
How does US Intelligence "know" what the aiming points were?
Are these the same Intelligence Analysts that did not see this War coming and said it would only last three days...that did not see the Taliban taking over Afghanistan...that "knew" there were WMD's in Iraq? That the Russians are mucking it up big time is easy to see.....but to know with certainty requires a lot of confirmed inside information....which I do not believe for a second that we have. |
Out of curiosity, did that fleet of assault ships/craft that suddenly departed Novorossiysk a few weeks back ever turn up anywhere?
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full
(Post 11235592)
Out of curiosity, did that fleet of assault ships/craft that suddenly departed Novorossiysk a few weeks back ever turn up anywhere?
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Kadyrov threatening Poland. This guy's a Kremlin puppet so he wouldn't be making any statements of his own. At least not without a prior information from Moscow. Are they really actively trying to forget a certain treaty organisation?
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Looks like the battle for Severodonetsk is about to begin…
https://understandingwar.org/backgro...essment-may-25 ….Russian forces seem to be prioritizing efforts to cut the two highways to Severodonetsk over launching offensive operations on Bakhmut at this time.[16] Luhansk Oblast Administration Head Serhiy Haidai refuted reports that Russian forces had cut off or blocked the T1302 highway on May 25.[17] Russian forces are unlikely to completely isolate Ukrainian forces from GLOCs just by seizing the southwestern T1303 and T1302 highways to Severodonetsk given the network of alternate if smaller roads in the region and will need to block or disrupt Bakhmut and Siversk to complete the Luhansk cauldron. Russian efforts to isolate Severodonetsk and Lysychansk may not be well synchronized in time and space with an impending direct Russian assault on Severdonetsk, although it is too soon to tell. The Russians are likely some days away from even cutting off the GLOCs to Severdonetsk and Lysychansk, and it would likely take some time for the disruption of those GLOCs to affect the cities’ defenders’ abilities to continue fighting. The intensity of Russian artillery and air attack, however, combined with the massing of Russian forces drawn from elsewhere in theater for the assault on Severodonetsk suggests that the assault could be launched before the GLOCs have been cut or before their disruption could have a material effect. The drive to cut the GLOCs could also be an effort to create an outer encirclement ring, however, to prevent Ukrainian forces from attempting to reinforce Severodonetsk as it is attacked or to relieve it if it is isolated or falls. Russian forces may need to conduct a ground offensive on Severodonetsk in upcoming days to maintain their pace after committing a significant portion of personnel, artillery, aviation, and logistics to the front.[18] The Ukrainian Defense Ministry reported that Russian forces conducted offensive operations in the vicinity of Severodonetsk and Lysychansk on May 25.[19] Haidai stated that Russian forces will lose the momentum of their heavy shelling and motivation if they do not launch an attack on Severodonetsk by Sunday.[20] Haidai reported that Russian forces already committed over 10,000 troops - approximately 25 battalion tactical groups (BTGs) composed on 300 to 500 servicemen each - and military equipment including S-400 surface-to-air missile systems.[21] Russian military commanders likely had to withdraw these forces from other axes, slowing down Russian advances in Zaporizhia, Donetsk, and Kharkiv Oblasts. Russian forces have also reportedly reached mortar range of Severodonetsk.[22]…. |
Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 11235226)
Y
If you are asking for armed intervention, that's another matter. Do you really think that a two battalion speed bump would have stopped Putin? I doubt it. Of course we'll never know as the political will to do that never materialized in the time when it would have been needed. |
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...437242880.html
According to Arestovych: the “Old Europe” block (France, Germany, Italy) + Hungary (which has its own separate interest) is now trying to slow down the necessary heavy arms supplies to Ukraine deliberately to prevent any possibility of Ukraine’s victory…… |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11235538)
US Defence Intelligence agency assess that less than 40% of Russian missiles fired during the war in Ukraine have hit their intended targets. 20-30% fail to launch or crash in flight and many miss aiming points.
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-r...a-show-1709388 |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11235712)
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...437242880.html
According to Arestovych: the “Old Europe” block (France, Germany, Italy) + Hungary (which has its own separate interest) is now trying to slow down the necessary heavy arms supplies to Ukraine deliberately to prevent any possibility of Ukraine’s victory…… "The British Prime Minister wrote a congratulatory letter to Viktor Orbán, commenting on the “fantastic relations” between the two countries and the planned cooperation on energy security. Johnson referred to the historical ties and common interests of the two countries, as well as the direct relations between the Hungarian and British people. He pointed out that the formation of the new Hungarian government comes at a critical time for Euro-Atlantic security when Europe and NATO need to show unity in the face of Russia’s attack on Ukraine. The British Prime Minister underscored the importance of the planned sanctions on Russian hydrocarbons while acknowledging that Hungary faces unique challenges in terms of energy security. To this end, he offered the support of the UK." The opinion on US support is, if correct, reminiscent of Kruschev's comment - "The support given by America is in the nature of that given by the rope to a hanging man". |
Is it me, but are the Ukrainians temporarily on the back foot because possibly the Russians did destroy a lot of Western aid thus cutting the advantages the Ukrainians had at the front, and with the lack of heavy arty they are forced to sit in their positions and take it without the means to counter it with the longer range guns provided. I also feel the Russians are improving on their propaganda and swamping the likes of Twitter. It also does no good all these Countries like Italy, etc and Kissenger telling them they should simply hand over their territory.
Who needs enemies when you have friends like this |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11235744)
Is it me, but are the Ukrainians temporarily on the back foot because possibly the Russians did destroy a lot of Western aid thus cutting the advantages the Ukrainians had at the front, and with the lack of heavy arty they are forced to sit in their positions and take it without the means to counter it with the longer range guns provided. I also feel the Russians are improving on their propaganda and swamping the likes of Twitter. It also does no good all these Countries like Italy, etc and Kissenger telling them they should simply hand over their territory.
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The other factor being the Russians are now limiting their action to Donbas where they have long established supply dumps, rail links and short transit times, hence being able to conduct mass artillery barrages in line with their doctrine.
If they try and push further east across the Donetsk, or towards Odessa, their logistic failings will predominate again - especially now Ukraine is using Switchblade and other loitering weapons. |
So it might make sense to pull back preventing being cut off and surrounded, then retake the offensive in cutting off their supply lines?
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I dont know if there is any truth in this, I sincerely hope not.
Germany....yet again. renaging on promises to Poland to backfill their armour in return for sending tanks to the Ukraine. https://www.politico.eu/article/poli...nk-deliveries/ |
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