Hmmm, yet, who was it that lined up the kids and parents along the Danube and shot them in the back of the head? The little thing that gave is the horrific Cipők a Duna-parton.
A little bit of evil done by Hungarians against Hungarians. Some Hungarians have a pretty good idea about privations & horrors of war, others perpetrated that against their own people out of racial intolerance and indifference.

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They have optional 350-kT warheads that can be fitted. hard to imagine the Kilo's are not carrying one or two special weapons per boat.


TDRACER's concern about pulling down the tent upon his own head is quite within possible actions by the vampire krimminokratic govt. Putin defines the country by his personality, and so existential threats to him are able to be considered by him as a threat to Russia. At that point, either the world ponies up or we all start to trade our currencies for rubles (can be used still for toilet paper if there is not much to buy). There is an existential threat, it was started by Putin's ego, and he is happy risking the world to satisfy his ego. There was no threat to Russia, certainly not from Ukraine, and none from NATO. Russia invaded a sovereign country as a false flag, as they usually do, to cause Crimea and the Donbas crisis. Now they continue on their path to genocide, there is no action by the Russians to care for the inhabitants in the Donbas, they were some of the first to be murdered and raped by Russians. If not stopped in their aggression, Russia will play the same game again. It is a broken record, it may be scratched a bit, but they have no interest in changing their spots and becoming a friendly nation. Those countries that consider the cost of supporting Ukraine to be high, like safety are going to come to note the cost of what a defeat of Ukraine will mean for all of their submission to aggression.

Exactly, all helps to prove my point. All part of the madness that took place '33 - '45.

With similarities to the present situation

Budapest 1956

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No country is entirely blameless when talking about or having experienced atrocities.
The British in India. The French in Indochina. To name just two.
I'm appalled by Russia's invasion but that revulsion is tinged with an element of guilt. Iraq, Afghanistan....

Well, if "no country is entirely blameless" then you can shut down any and every denunciation of mass-murder by referring to someone's past. This cult of blaming people for things done generations or centuries ago is the curse of our age. What is important is what is being done to Ukraine now, to real living people.

2 rongs don't make a Wright. [[b]CAUTION: Mild Aviation Content...]

The genocidal goats happen to be Russia today, evidently happy to kill their own younger generation in order to pump up the ego of a sociopathic liar. The question will be how long before the world starts to consider Russia to be a country that should not be shunned and censured. The USA maintained estrangement of Cuba for more than 50 years, that would seem to be a good start for Russia (while disagreeing with the rationale for the example, but it was a national position), Russia is more akin to North Korea as far as I can see, so 70 years + may be a fitting result, might give Russia time to learn some international ettiquette vice brutality. Cancelling Lavrov's visa would be helpful, along with any other Russian diplomat.... particularly those that happen to be at a UN address during the "work week", specifically around vote days.

I doubt you'll find many Brits who supported the former, and at least the latter had some justification and a moral purpose. There was certainly no cheerleading for either, nor lack of criticism or questioning when things went wrong (e.g. civilian casualties).

Whataboutery is moral abdication, pure and simple. You can't excuse one crime with another.

We're already seeing increased signs that some countries wavering with regard to sanctions and Ukraine's war aims, no doubt acutely aware of the growing economic impact of a prolonged conflict. I suspect the likes of Germany and others thought that the conflict would be over in a matter of weeks with few casualties, with Russia prevailing and then quietening the rhetoric down, meaning that the sanctions agreed would be short-lived.

The question many western governments are now grappling with is are they prepared to crater their economies for the sake of Ukraine? Tricky one that.

Why a fixed duration?! How does that incentivise a change for the better?! Why punish the now young or even unborn generation even though they might (and it appears they are indeed not) not be so happy with what Putin/Russia is currently doing. Frustration is rarely a good advisor in international politics. It was the Versailles Contract that lay foundation to Hitler's getting into Power and all the Human catastrophy that resulted from this.
Cut Russia's access to Money and Tech now. Embargoe China and India if they continue to support Russia with Money or Tech. It's now that it counts. Who knows what will be in 30 or 40 Years!?

Particularly, in the case of the oil embargo, this

The brutality of trench warfare :sad:


Russia appears to be running out of UAV’s and are resorting to using their fire service drones.

Not tricky at all. Can you think of a better option? Economic crater now as opposed to a radioactive one in five years time.

Not only this Colonel was with 60 a reservist, though just earlier another high-ranking (Major General) in a SU-25's for close air support was shot down/killed together with his also previously retired wingman, both at 63. How is it possible, they think, they are at the top of their physical/mental performance to successfully fly combat missions in wartime, at that age........

So - Dobby has now resorted to calling up the old men who 'can operate the new 'high-tech equipment'. Like the antique tanks because he has run out of the newer ones. You know it's genius strategy.

First reported Australian Bushmaster loss, it shows they are being used and appreciated though
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That was never an issue, the Russian speakers were clearly a minority in the Ukraine, albeit not in the eastern regions.
Afaik, the fraction of Russian speaking Ukrainians was in the 30% range for the whole country and a clear majority out east before the wars started. So a local insurrection there is quite plausible, with or without outside help.
The share today, after the removal of Crimea and emigration, whether voluntary or otherwise, is much less, probably in the 20% range of a smaller population, down from the mid 40MM in the 2000s to the 30+MM today.

USA to provide long range rocket systems, these could be a game changer as they could reach Sevastopol, the bridge, their artillery and probably even Moscow, though I doubt that will happen.

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Good, the UF needs to interdict the MSR. It hardly seems fair that Team Rouge gets to lob missiles at Ukraine without a bit of disincentive. There are some great bridges across the Don, and Kerch, and the rail into Belgorod, Volgograd, Platov, and lots of parade lineup SUs and MiGs near by...

The west is going to have a bill for this, no matter what, and pulling the bandaid of Team Rouge now will still have a lower cost than waiting for the Baltics or Poland to be threatened. Appeasement doesn't work, at least it didn't in '36, '37, '38 etc... that's where the "line in the sand" comes into it's own.

Pukins newly reconstituted USSR is tanking, forget about the propped up ruble. They have managed to Q them selves, (Germany and co's reversal notwithstanding) China's bubble is bursting, food supplies and fertiliser are getting way low, it's going to be an interesting year or two. Does the world want Putin glaring into Poland or Ukraine? All Ukraine is asking for is the means to defeat evil, not much to ask for in the big scheme of things.

"... cigarette lighter wiring fault...?"

dropping a 152 or 122 beside a bushy is going to need lots of body to fix, avoiding the noise and nuisance seems to be highly desirable, anti drone needs are not trivial.