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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 21st Mar 2023, 11:14
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Tass announced today that they had sent two nuclear capable bombers over the Sea of Japan for a 'routine' seven-hour patrol, accompanied by two fighters. Funny that they had to mention it first. As if there was a danger no-one else might.
'Routine', ok, so just a coincidence then, or are they imitating US pronouncements?

Two Russian Tu-95MS strategic bombers perform scheduled patrol over Sea of Japan - Military & Defense - TASS
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Dammit, another Stormer hit

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Old 21st Mar 2023, 11:45
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The two soldiers standing 2-3m from the explosion weren't even knocked over, so the damage might not be too severe. Probably better not to be stationary in the middle of an open field
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Drone operators having a bit of fun (turn the sound on if you can):
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Old 21st Mar 2023, 14:52
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Russian contractors are urgently seeking builders and carpenters to construct trenches and fortified positions in the occupied Crimea. Adverts have appeared on Avito, Russia's equivalent of eBay, offering up to 7,000 rubles ($91) a day for the work – but it can be risky.

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Given all the outrageous lies told to conscripts/enlisted troops ( training, food, equipment, signing-on bonuses ) does anyone really believe these payments will actually be made ? There is one comment towards the end of the report that "On at least some occasions, they have complained of being tricked into fortification work and of being underpaid or not paid at all."
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
Given all the outrageous lies told to conscripts/enlisted troops ( training, food, equipment, signing-on bonuses ) does anyone really believe these payments will actually be made ? There is one comment towards the end of the report that "On at least some occasions, they have complained of being tricked into fortification work and of being underpaid or not paid at all."
Lying and being lied to are part of the Russian condition, unfortunately.

As Solzhenitsyn put it, “We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.”
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Old 21st Mar 2023, 16:30
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
Given all the outrageous lies told to conscripts/enlisted troops ( training, food, equipment, signing-on bonuses ) does anyone really believe these payments will actually be made ? There is one comment towards the end of the report that "On at least some occasions, they have complained of being tricked into fortification work and of being underpaid or not paid at all."
What you mean like? Comrades, pick up your tools from over there, saw qty 1 check, hammer qty 1 check, helmet qty 1 check, vest empty for the protection off qty 1 check, rifle qty 1 check, magazine and 5 rounds qty 1 check, form enlistment filled out qty 1 check............
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Old 21st Mar 2023, 16:34
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Originally Posted by melmothtw
Lying and being lied to are part of the Russian condition, unfortunately.

As Solzhenitsyn put it, “We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.”
Which is exactly my point. Do they believe that , given this, they will get any workers ? What would prevent the Defence Ministry just kidnapping them as conscripts and making them construct the trenches for a handful of beans sometime later.
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
Which is exactly my point. Do they believe that , given this, they will get any workers ? What would prevent the Defence Ministry just kidnapping them as conscripts and making them construct the trenches for a handful of beans sometime later.
I think the point Solzhenitsyn was making was that it doesn't matter 'they' lie. Everyone knows 'they' are lying, but everyone carries on regardless.

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Nutty et al bravo shout

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We 3 retired part time penquins rely absolutely on Nutty's and his mates insights as the main news channels seem hell bent on under-reporting this most vicious of conflicts. Keep up the good works. Ignore the odd buggerlugs your labours are not in vain
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Old 21st Mar 2023, 16:53
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Attack on Dzhankoi

Reports that this attack may have been carried out by Russian Shahed drones, captured/intercepted by the Ukrainians and re-programmed. This suspicion is based upon identifying similarities of drone remnants, and also recognition of the very characteristic engine noise ( audible on earlier videos ) of the drones, which has led to the Ukrainians nick-naming them as moped-drones.Obviously it may also be the case that the Ukrainians have copied the Shahed

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland...188937598.html

The report also says the the destroyed missiles were Kalibr -KN which are submarine-launched.
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They have shown parts of the drones though.


possible feint?



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They have shown parts of the drones though.

possible feint?
Drone recognition not one of my skills. What do the photos tell you ? As for being a feint, well it doesn't matter does it ? There was apparently a significant number of missiles destroyed. I say that because I can't imagine they would just ship one or two.
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Originally Posted by melmothtw
As Solzhenitsyn put it, “We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.”
We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us

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There is no news in Izvestia and no truth in Pravda
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
Drone recognition not one of my skills. What do the photos tell you ? As for being a feint, well it doesn't matter does it ? There was apparently a significant number of missiles destroyed. I say that because I can't imagine they would just ship one or two.



The UAV wreckage fin looks like a Chinese UAV see link, no expert either

https://www.muginuav.com/product/mug...-uav-platform/
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Viewing the limited "bang" videos and seeing where on the map, what is the effect on the infrastructure?.
Assume that the train track is damaged, meaning that the north supply route is now unavailable, at least for a while?.
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Viewing the limited "bang" videos and seeing where on the map, what is the effect on the infrastructure?.
Assume that the train track is damaged, meaning that the north supply route is now unavailable, at least for a while?.
Wouldn't think so. Dzhankoi is a very important rail-hub, so there will be lots of ways to re-route trains around a single siding/piece of track.
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US to speed up deliveries to Ukraine.

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