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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

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Old 16th May 2022, 11:29
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They were accused of using RBK-500 with ZAB-2.5SM sub-munitions in Syria. Apparently 'not' legally cluster bombs because they don't explode.

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Three grenades dropped by drone, one T-72 destroyed.
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The re-opening of the consulates and embassies in the Ukraine is a positive . Does this mean will soon be back to business as usual ?
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Chill guys....

These are impressive.

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oh man, that's not going to end well. The discussion earlier regarding the possible landing near Odessa will be a disaster if they are really trying to do it with a combination of forces untrained for the task and untrained to work together against an enemy that has the gear, the motivation and the experience. May as well send the poor sailors to try and fly an alligator. Or a SU-25 pilot piloting a landing craft.
Must be a toss-up who these troops are most frightened of; the Ukrainians in front of them or their own commanders behind them.
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Must be a toss-up who these troops are most frightened of; the Ukrainians in front of them or their own commanders behind them.
Remember, always answer to the question "can you walk?" with a yes............. How not to instill moral in your troops, or the learn to get the first shot in first before your Colonel lesson..

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Old 16th May 2022, 15:44
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Three grenades dropped by drone, one T-72 destroyed.
Its incredible how susceptible these tanks are to top attack, even using munitions one would expect would cause only superficial damage.

On a related note, I found the following video a few weeks back which gives a feel for how cramped this tank is inside, also how the gunner and commander effectively coexist with the autoloader:


Even without the autoloader, any penetration of the hull would be catastrophic for the crew.
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Three grenades dropped by drone, one T-72 destroyed.

You seen the size of some of them, looks like 3D printed stabilisation fins too.


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Deadpan - that video actually makes me feel sorry for the poor sods getting blown to bits in them - what a **** way to go to war (sorry, special operation)!
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Azovstal…



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Old 16th May 2022, 17:43
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Ammunition donated from Holland. It says: "Revenge for MH17".


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Old 16th May 2022, 18:24
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Russian media is spreading the conspiracy that Poland wants to annex Smolensk and Vilnius.

Vzglyad published comments from Yevgeny Satanovsky, a prominent Russian commentator. Comments from a Polish military figure on demilitarizing Kaliningrad was the trigger, but the Kremlin continues to stoke fear of a Russia-Poland war and Polish expansionism in Ukraine and beyond….

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Old 16th May 2022, 18:29
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Deadpan - that video actually makes me feel sorry for the poor sods getting blown to bits in them - what a **** way to go to war (sorry, special operation)!
I must be horrific.


You can see why they are losing vehicles, a series of clips

A BTR hits an anti tank mine, tank goes in and drags it back just missing more mines, tank then advances and hits the one it missed earlier, another tank then has to recover the first one..


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Old 16th May 2022, 19:27
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Reports on Twitter and Telegram that, on government orders, the remnants of the Azovstal garrison has surrendered.

President Zelenskyy about to make a broadcast.

Early reports were that the Russians had said they were to be evacuated into Russian held territory - which wouldn’t have said much for their chances of survival.

Latest reports are of stops for groups of Russian POWs.

Fingers crossed that they don’t get massacred.
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Old 16th May 2022, 19:38
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RT appears to be filming them leaving, that has to be good, there is no way of quietly disposing of them when they are shown to be alive on the news.


Ukraine's Alamo, and some…
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Old 16th May 2022, 20:14
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It might be a prisoner exchange for those wounded in Mariupol and possibly more.. so glad it’s happening, rarely do you use the word hero in the true sense, but everyone of them are, to hold out against such odds, against so many for so long.

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Old 16th May 2022, 21:18
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BOOM! BOOM! As Basil Brush used to say.

Going as fast as could to get out of the minefield before he hit a mine. Reminds me of an old joke…

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Old 16th May 2022, 21:30
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Someone on Russian TV is having a reality moment….

https://twitter.com/hashtag/WarInUkr...=hashtag_click
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Old 16th May 2022, 21:32
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Ukrainian combat engineers accomplishing what their Russian equivalents could not - a crossing over the Donetsk…

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Old 16th May 2022, 21:42
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Russian media is spreading the conspiracy that Poland wants to annex Smolensk and Vilnius.
Isn't Vilnius the capital of a NATO nation as well? Poland would have to go through all of Belarus to get to Smolensk. These assertions make no sense.

And oddball factoid with a trace of aviation content: Smolensk is a 'sister city' to Colorado Springs (which is where the US Air Force Academy can be found).
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