Is Ukraine about to have a war?
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I tend to disagree, LB. The numerical balance remains in Russia’s favour, and despite their military “skills” will remain so. I have always been concerned about attrition of Ukrainian personnel: they do not have the population to sustain massive losses. Of course we will never know what the relevant ratio is, nor should we. But the numbers in that table do indicate the intensity of the ground conflict. I feel for the poor sods on the ground on both sides (Wagner PMC exempt!).
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That's the thing. The numbers are suggesting Mordor is rolling in. Not a clear indication they are running out of steam.
When was the last time we heard of a sucess in reclaiming some of the land back? Ugly qestions. With much apologies, the Kherson collapse was unavoidable given the geography and layout. Yet after months the downtown is in range of phosphorus shells.
The ongoing decoruptinization led by Zelensky office, as much as it is needed, will dissolve some of the unity bonds.
When was the last time we heard of a sucess in reclaiming some of the land back? Ugly qestions. With much apologies, the Kherson collapse was unavoidable given the geography and layout. Yet after months the downtown is in range of phosphorus shells.
The ongoing decoruptinization led by Zelensky office, as much as it is needed, will dissolve some of the unity bonds.
Of course we should worry about Ukr ability to tolerate grievous losses, having a substantially smaller pool of person-power. There is however the imponderable/ unquantifiable aspect of "fighting for your country in your country" and with many of the Ukr forces with private losses to avenge. How that translates to evening-up is a matter of conjecture.
As an ignoranrt armchair general, I toy with the idea of advising Ukr to do a Gallipoli-style 10 mile withdrawal, to make that 10 miles a killing zone. The problem here is political, comparable to the holding of the Ypres salient and Verdun: where so many lives lost made it sacred ground. As I am not high up in defence [not even the tea-trolly lady] please don't tip off Putin.
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and I thanked you for making that an "opt in" choice.
As with the naked child with napalm burns running down a Vietnam road or the soldier executed by pistol shot on the streets of Saigon or the burnt corpse in the truck as the Iraqi’s fled Kuwait, these have to be seen to show the world that War isn’t the A Team where they spray machine gun fire and no one gets killed, but it is horrific and brutal and is not the sanitised rubbish you see on mainstream TV.
The sooner mankind wakes up to the fact that we are the only species on this planet that kills for “sport / fun” and recognises war in its bestial form gets you exactly nowhere, then perhaps we will learn from it and adapt.
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She is from Ukraine.
As the war began and the topic came up she went off about what a load of
our President and our government are for letting it happen, not immediately rushing to Ukraine's aid, and so on. Can't say as I blame her for her reaction. Her homeland was, and still is, being wrecked. Something like 5 to 7 million Ukrainian people are displaced/refugees, and many thousands are dead thanks to this war.(I am also related through marriage to another man who lives within a half our from our house, whose wife is from Ukraine, but whose father (hers) identifies as Russian...another earful from a different direction
from each of them on separate occasions ...)ETA: Correction, UNHCR has 8 million as the refugees from Ukraine thanks to war.
I could do without the emotionally charged tone that you so often present on this forum: but we each have our own tastes and preferences: you do you.
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Russia has handed the US embassy in Moscow a note demanding it stop interfering in Russia's internal affairs - TASS
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I ask you, do these look like the actions of a Country that believe they can win this war outright and it's not going to be brought home to them?
https://twitter.com/aNdr0iz/status/1603406969871781888
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https://twitter.com/aNdr0iz/status/1603406969871781888
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Apparently the Z-team has new commander called General Melchett aided by captain Darling.
I ask you, do these look like the actions of a Country that believe they can win this war outright and it's not going to be brought home to them?
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I ask you, do these look like the actions of a Country that believe they can win this war outright and it's not going to be brought home to them?..
However, if the free world has any virtue remaining, Russia has already lost the peace for at least two generations.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Russia continues to devolve into fiefdoms under the control of companies and warlords….
⚡️Ukraine’s intelligence: Russian Gazprom to create its own private military company.
Russian state-owned energy monopolist Gazprom is creating its own private military company, Ukraine's military intelligence said on Feb. 7, citing the decree signed by Russian PM Mishustin.
⚡️Ukraine’s intelligence: Russian Gazprom to create its own private military company.
Russian state-owned energy monopolist Gazprom is creating its own private military company, Ukraine's military intelligence said on Feb. 7, citing the decree signed by Russian PM Mishustin.
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The manufacture of artillery shells, I am surprised how simple and low tech the stencilling is compared to the rest of they system, and also the packing.
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...C4pdSR9oQtAAAA
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...C4pdSR9oQtAAAA
In other words how much metal can the Earth provide (and the West has access to) for a full blown war?
While we are having fun with hypotheticals, the traditional word for oxymoron/paradox/conflict/conundrum/contraditction/antilogy in the east is 矛盾, (maodun in Chinese, mujun in Japanese), the pictograms for spear and shield. If Putin wields a spear, and Ukraine holds a shield, which will prevail?
Putin is approaching with weapons. Is Putin a truly irresistible force? Can Uraine truly be an immovable object?
The answer will lie in the ability of one to overpower the other, or the inability of one to match the other. Putin must be thinking of his own blackbelt.
Putin is approaching with weapons. Is Putin a truly irresistible force? Can Uraine truly be an immovable object?
The answer will lie in the ability of one to overpower the other, or the inability of one to match the other. Putin must be thinking of his own blackbelt.
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky will arrive in the UK today, in his first visit since Russia's invasion of Ukraine last year.
Downing Street said he would be holding meetings with Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and make a speech in Parliament.
No 10 has also announced that British training of Ukrainian forces will be expanded to cover fighter jet pilots and marines.
It's also expected the UK will announce fresh sanctions targeting Russia later.
Plans have been announced to train Ukrainian pilots to fly Nato-standard fighter jets in the future, a key request from Ukraine.
President Zelensky addressed MPs in March last year, speaking virtually from Kyiv, the first time a foreign leader addressed MPs in the Commons chamber
Downing Street said he would be holding meetings with Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and make a speech in Parliament.
No 10 has also announced that British training of Ukrainian forces will be expanded to cover fighter jet pilots and marines.
It's also expected the UK will announce fresh sanctions targeting Russia later.
Plans have been announced to train Ukrainian pilots to fly Nato-standard fighter jets in the future, a key request from Ukraine.
President Zelensky addressed MPs in March last year, speaking virtually from Kyiv, the first time a foreign leader addressed MPs in the Commons chamber
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Reference the above.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/p...ssian-invasion
PM extends Ukraine military training to pilots and marines as President Zelenskyy makes first visit to the UK since Russian invasion
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/p...ssian-invasion
PM extends Ukraine military training to pilots and marines as President Zelenskyy makes first visit to the UK since Russian invasion
According to the media, Bakhmut is very close to be taken by the Russians. To me that translates as a major failure not of the Ukraine but of the west. All that hesitation is now costing the Ukrainians dearly. Our western leaders sicken me and I have no longer have any trust in them whatsoever.
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It is not that easy supporting Ukraine when you try to avoid sliding into WW3 facing some irrational opponent in Moscow at the same time. This war will not end soon and will have more ups and downs.
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Reference the above.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/p...ssian-invasion
PM extends Ukraine military training to pilots
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/p...ssian-invasion
PM extends Ukraine military training to pilots
Which is what that "irrational" opponent is calculating on. He considers the west weak and we're proving him right!
Yep first thought as well, maybe they are training already experience pilots for the EF Tranche 1 Block 5 that they are retiring in the next few years
Maybe they are just the front country for someone elses aircraft ie RAAF F-18's, French Mirage 2000 or dutch F-16
So many option so little details
Maybe they are just the front country for someone elses aircraft ie RAAF F-18's, French Mirage 2000 or dutch F-16
So many option so little details