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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 22nd Aug 2022, 15:32
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They don't need to try very hard to convince a sufficient majority (of Russians) who know no better than to believe the BS they are fed by the Kremlin and the FSB.
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Old 22nd Aug 2022, 16:03
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Downed Ukrainian helicopter, I hope they got out of it.

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Old 22nd Aug 2022, 16:07
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Originally Posted by NutLoose

why would you not check on the driver if it had just happened and possibly the passenger as the door was open..
I don't know but I think there are enough holes in that car that I'd just get the hell out of there asap! I might even be prepared to drive through that small waterfall of god knows what coming out of that pipe over the road

Shelling? It looks to me like there was a lot of gunfire into the drivers side then a round through the windshield (or maybe the other way round)
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Old 22nd Aug 2022, 16:18
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
And often with munitions stacked between them, they obviously haven't watched the film Pearl Harbour .
Reenacting Jules Verne's "From the Earth to the moon"?




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Old 22nd Aug 2022, 16:40
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Mind boggling incompetence by the Russians in executing a false-flag op.

Ignoring the totally out of proportion head on the photo, as stated we asked to believe not only that she took the pass into Russia with her - but presented it to Russian border security when leaving so they could photograph it….
Count Vlad came from the same sphere as a middling desk officer, why would anyone expect that his genius as a tactician would be much different to the Keystone Kops that set up the false flag ops? They could be a sitcom after this naughtiness has all calmed down. The Return of the Pink Pukin? or a spaghetti eastern? The Bortch and bumble?

The probability of a young lady bringing her child, a cup of semtex, a few joke alarm clocks with BOMB written on them, and a baby daughter into a country that is at war with apparently her team, and then, she gets the intel to go and pop a cork but gets the wrong ultra right-wing fascist.... then leaves her ID behind and a copy of her army ID.. presumably with a letter of confession for all to read.... so that the Keystone Kops Kan Krack the Kaise... Golly, who would have thunked it!
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Old 22nd Aug 2022, 18:38
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Qit looks like they are using the Kherson bridge as cover for the pontoon ferry, dropping a few mines into the river upstream might work

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Old 22nd Aug 2022, 19:12
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Ukraine gives (indirect) number of war dead

This is a rather indirect report, so bear with me.

On Monday the Interfax news agency reported that in a forum in Kiew, Walerij Saluschny , head of the Ukrainian army said that Ukrainian children deserved special attention because almost 9 000 of their fathers had died.as heroes. This was further reported in the German magazine focus.de

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland..._52139887.html

If true this is an astonishing difference to their reported number of 40 000 Russians killed so far, but both numbers remain somewhat mysterious.

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Old 22nd Aug 2022, 20:44
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Downed Ukrainian helicopter, I hope they got out of it.
This has been going around for a few days. Crashed due to mechanical failure, all the crew the survived

Edit looks like it surfaced over a month ago, saw it first time a week ago and it was considered old at that point

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Old 22nd Aug 2022, 21:25
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Old 22nd Aug 2022, 23:43
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Nothing new, I’ve been watching RAFAIR 7… out over the Black Sea for quite awhile. More interesting was RAFAIR 7… having a look around Murmansk a couple of times last week. My dad (PO stoker, HMS Nubian) was also in Murmansk a couple of times, but he and his crew mates were welcomed at the time, though the Germans tried to stop them getting there. Oh, and he didn’t get his Arctic Convoys Medal until 1985 ish. Strange old world.
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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 02:29
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
This is a rather indirect report, so bear with me.

On Monday the Interfax news agency reported that in a forum in Kiew, Walerij Saluschny , head of the Ukrainian army said that Ukrainian children deserved special attention because almost 9 000 of their fathers had died.as heroes. This was further reported in the German magazine focus.de

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland..._52139887.html

If true this is an astonishing difference to their reported number of 40 000 Russians killed so far, but both numbers remain somewhat mysterious.
That might be a clever play on the figures as it does not mention mothers and there is a percentage of those in the military, nor single men.

I would guess there always will be a lower number of defenders as they tend to operate from prepared defensive positions, you just have to look at the confirmed vehicular kills to see the difference between sides.
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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 07:28
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RETURNS WELCOME: Saudi Arabia recently purchased Grim-2 ballistic missile systems from Ukraine. These weapons greatly exceed the payload, range and reliability of Russian Iskander SSMs. Saudi has announced it will return the Grim-2s to Ukraine: they will now put Moscow in range.

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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 08:21
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
, you just have to look at the confirmed vehicular kills to see the difference between sides.
Where did you see numbers of Ukrainian vehicle losses, Nutty, and what are they ?
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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 09:25
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
Where did you see numbers of Ukrainian vehicle losses, Nutty, and what are they ?
Verified Russian vehicle losses I.E photographed. List constantly updated as film or photos come in, it also show them all by type and image.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/0...equipment.html

Russia - 5321, of which: destroyed: 3454, damaged: 125, abandoned: 309, captured: 1433


Verified Ukrainian vehicle losses I.E photographed. List constantly updated as film or photos come in, it also show them all by type and image.

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/0...ukrainian.html

Ukraine - 1517, of which: destroyed: 840, damaged: 36, abandoned: 36, captured: 605


They will vary, these are just the ones that can and have been verified.

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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 09:42
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BREAKING: The EU is discussing a major military training operation for Ukrainian forces….

This announcement is triggering outrage in Moscow. Higher School of Economics Professor Leonid Polyakov is citing this as proof of the EU's hand in the Ukraine war and warns it could increase the risk of World War III…
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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 10:32
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30 T-72 from Slovakia in exchange for 15 Leopard 2A4

Agreement reached between Slovakia and Germany to allow supply of 30 T72 to Ukraine. Germany will supply 15 Leopard 2A4 to Slovakia, starting late '22 This had been under discussion for some time and looked like falling apart two months ago when Slovakia said that it wasn't a fair exchange and they needed more than 15.

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland..._57275780.html
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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 10:55
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the little airport just north of Sevastopol, at aeroport Imeni A. Koltunovoy would seem to be an open invitation unless the guests have left the building. Some 40+ Su-31/35 and a smattering of MiG-29, and a handful of L-39's. Hopefully safely near Vladivostok or some other safe area. 5nm ENE of harbor... looks like a great place to spend time in speedo's, for tourists with smartphones and FB accounts.

44°41'11.25"N 33°34'21.57"E
Looks like a Rossiya Special Flight Squadron landed there just now
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Old 23rd Aug 2022, 11:05
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
Agreement reached between Slovakia and Germany to allow supply of 30 T72 to Ukraine. Germany will supply 15 Leopard 2A4 to Slovakia, starting late '22 This had been under discussion for some time and looked like falling apart two months ago when Slovakia said that it wasn't a fair exchange and they needed more than 15.

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland..._57275780.html
Slovakia is committed to building a mechanised heavy tank brigade (30 tanks) cant see why they would trade the 30 tanks they and need for 15 and then have to find another 15. Guess we will know after the Press Conference
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From Sky

Kremlin analyst Olga Lautman reported that Dugin had suffered a heart attack, quoting his close ally Sergei Markov.

Mr Markov posted on his Telegram channel: "Poor Alexander Dugin. He is in the hospital now. Our huge condolences."

Several reports have also suggested Putin carried out the plot.

Russian expert Anders Aslund tweeted: "It appears most likely that Putin killed Darya Dugina. He has that habit.

"The videos at her house were out. Alexander Dugin was supposed to be in the car. Why would Ukraine waste resources on such a target?"

"Given Putin's fondness of false flag operations, it is most likely that he ordered Dugin to be blown up, making it look as done by the Ukrainians, while Dugin's daughter was blown up instead. More such murders are likely."
Let's hope they have given him a 9th floor room with a window looking out over the Kremlin, odd the videos were out, they got some excellent shots of the alleged Ukrainian hit woman.
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