Is Ukraine about to have a war?

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More satellite views of the main Kherson bridge and the damage so far.
https://twitter.com/ArtisanalAPT/sta...67758061948930
This image is from today, the lower one the 21st


https://twitter.com/ArtisanalAPT/sta...67758061948930
This image is from today, the lower one the 21st




So the next war will be drone, 3D printed, space and nuclear power station focused?
If we are unlucky, the one after that will be fought with clubs and spears.

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Ukraine helicopter low level, looks like under wires too

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Is this a build up or just reporting what is known?

Is Putrid about to throw his last dice?

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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
“China calls on Putin to end Russian roulette at Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant in Ukraine after disaster near-miss. When China is speaking up, you know it’s serious.”…
https://apple.news/AOXQg4sceQgWu4jnmiiv-EQ
https://apple.news/AOXQg4sceQgWu4jnmiiv-EQ

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The MOD is utterly incompetent at (a) negotiating a contract and (b) managing a project development. From the other side of the fence, they are an almost bottomless money pit, but it makes at least some ex-RAF people in industry have guilty feelings for those serving, and for taxpayers.
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The MOD is utterly incompetent at (a) negotiating a contract and (b) managing a project development. From the other side of the fence, they are an almost bottomless money pit, but it makes at least some ex-RAF people in industry have guilty feelings for those serving, and for taxpayers.
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Great! Please then tell us what the answer is if they can:
a) No longer initiate new programmes
b) no longer negotiate any programmes
Expatriate the whole she-bang to ..............................whom ?
Great! Please then tell us what the answer is if they can:
a) No longer initiate new programmes
b) no longer negotiate any programmes
Expatriate the whole she-bang to ..............................whom ?
2 Use the end users advice better when writing the specification, rather than having it hacked down to save money by the Treasury civil servant accountants.
3. Buy the best match to the spec, rather than politicise the buying decision.
4. Ruthless holding the manufacturer to fulfilling the contract and meeting the spec
The cost would be far lower than the billions wasted later.
That might be a start. Sorry for thread drift, but seeing the trickery and disregard for responsibility to the taxpayer on the one hand, and when looking back at doing the job with the tools at our disposal makes me a bit cross.

“China calls on Putin to end Russian roulette at Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant in Ukraine after disaster near-miss. When China is speaking up, you know it’s serious.”…
https://apple.news/AOXQg4sceQgWu4jnmiiv-EQ
https://apple.news/AOXQg4sceQgWu4jnmiiv-EQ

Ukraine MOD came out with a wish list of FJ's.
To play around with the idea the Gripen would be an interesting option for Ukraine: did well in latest tenders being the runner up (Finland, Canada), easy to maintain (advertised to require just two conscripts to turn around on a highway base) and already NATO compatible. Just a small hickup is the very low number made, who'd send their AC's on a short notice? Czech needs their to cover Slovakia due to Slovakia sending their mig29's to Ukraine. Hungary has only 12+2. South Africa has 17. So unless Czech gets their F35's very fast and Sweden sends their fleet it's a no go.
To play around with the idea the Gripen would be an interesting option for Ukraine: did well in latest tenders being the runner up (Finland, Canada), easy to maintain (advertised to require just two conscripts to turn around on a highway base) and already NATO compatible. Just a small hickup is the very low number made, who'd send their AC's on a short notice? Czech needs their to cover Slovakia due to Slovakia sending their mig29's to Ukraine. Hungary has only 12+2. South Africa has 17. So unless Czech gets their F35's very fast and Sweden sends their fleet it's a no go.

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The end product of peacetime, pared down, forces. Will we all ever learn that Defence is not an option, but essential, and has to be properly and fully resourced against all possible adverse scenarios? Meanwhile, in the Treasury ...

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I've not heard of any countries upping production? Would it not be prudent to get some orders in now for more stuff. We must have exhausted quite a lot already.

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https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...al-navigation/
https://www.gps.gov/governance/advis...8-12/laine.pdf
Knocking out GPS satellites however would effect both sides.

Nope, we will never learn, because the kind of long term vision needed to invest in maintaining a viable military requires politicians who actually care enough to risk personal political capital to do the right thing…..

It’s why the US is looking at celestial navigation as stars can’t be hacked or destroyed.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...al-navigation/
https://www.gps.gov/governance/advis...8-12/laine.pdf
Knocking out GPS satellites however would effect both sides.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...al-navigation/
https://www.gps.gov/governance/advis...8-12/laine.pdf
Knocking out GPS satellites however would effect both sides.
I note in the Draper slides that only lines of position from two different celestial bodies are required to determine position. But unless the relative azimuths are ideal (90 degrees) and error sources are zero or ignored, it’s been a better practice to have at least three LOPs from bodies roughly 120 degrees azimuth apart, in order to triangulate and minimize contributions of systematic error.
I don’t know the technology, but I suppose they have a way of observing stars even in daytime.

Ukraine MOD came out with a wish list of FJ's.
To play around with the idea the Gripen would be an interesting option for Ukraine: did well in latest tenders being the runner up (Finland, Canada), easy to maintain (advertised to require just two conscripts to turn around on a highway base) and already NATO compatible. Just a small hickup is the very low number made, who'd send their AC's on a short notice? Czech needs their to cover Slovakia due to Slovakia sending their mig29's to Ukraine. Hungary has only 12+2. South Africa has 17. So unless Czech gets their F35's very fast and Sweden sends their fleet it's a no go.
To play around with the idea the Gripen would be an interesting option for Ukraine: did well in latest tenders being the runner up (Finland, Canada), easy to maintain (advertised to require just two conscripts to turn around on a highway base) and already NATO compatible. Just a small hickup is the very low number made, who'd send their AC's on a short notice? Czech needs their to cover Slovakia due to Slovakia sending their mig29's to Ukraine. Hungary has only 12+2. South Africa has 17. So unless Czech gets their F35's very fast and Sweden sends their fleet it's a no go.
