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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 06:49
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Originally Posted by etudiant
The letter of the law matters in Russia, as interpreted by the Kremlin.
Interesting reductionist theory.

Letters are law, my internet bill arrives in an envelope, therefore I must be in the Kremlin. Or a duck. Get confused on the details....

Under a dictatorsip, the law is whatever the guy with the guns says it is. Count Putin (not Count De Money.... thats Mr Brooks side kick... ) has the round thingey things of all of the Russian people in his soap bag, and he is not afraid to use it, like Donkey. Donkey however had a heart, whereas dracula Putin is reminiscent of the tin man in wonderland.
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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 06:53
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Originally Posted by rattman
No destroying the **** they left behind, In a surprise to no one apparently its been a bit of cluster ****,

1 the supply ship they sent to retrieve the troops and hardware got sunk. Theres still some debate as to if they are talking about the tug or another one
2 They sent helicopters to get the men, they were supposed to torch the the hardware left behind they didn't
3 One of the escorting KA-52's was shot down, the SAR helicopter looking for it was shot down
4 They bombed the island to destroy the hardware they left behind. One filmed bombing raid the a russian fighter actually missed the island with 3 out of 4 of the bombs
https://twitter.com/i/status/1542974596558774277
reminds me of the biggest guy in my class, receiving a caning.... after the 5 of 6 had got him around the shoulderblades, he turned around to the teacher and asked if the teacher knew where his own @$$ was. The laughter terminated any more punishment to the guy.
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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 07:00
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Interesting Russian missile strike (seems to be the same area/implication as the Mall that was hit), at 2:35 - certainly seems to collide, one assumes, non intentionally of course with the corner of a block of flats. but I was wondering where was it going..?

Can't post a YT link - says 'Unavailable'. Just type in something on the lines of below..

Ukrainian Sniper Deals a Terrible Blow | The Enforcer War Summary Day 126

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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 07:00
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Institute for the Study of War: Kremlin likely preparing to mobilize Russian economy to sustain war effort.

https://understandingwar.org/backgro...essment-july-1

The Kremlin is likely setting conditions for crypto-mobilization of the Russian economy in preparation for a protracted war in Ukraine.

The Kremlin proposed an amendment to federal laws on Russian Armed Forces supply matters to the Russian State Duma on June 30, that would introduce “special measures in the economic sphere” obliging Russian businesses (regardless of ownership) to supply Russian special military and counterterrorist operations.[1]

The amendment would prohibit Russian businesses from refusing to accept state orders for special military operations and allow the Kremlin to change employee contracts and work conditions, such as forcing workers to work during the night or federal holidays.

The Kremlin noted in the amendment’s description that the ongoing special military operation in Ukraine exposed supply shortages, specifically materials needed to repair military equipment, and stated that Russian officials need to “concentrate their efforts in certain sectors of the economy."

Russian President Vladimir Putin is likely mobilizing the Russian economy and industry to sustain the ongoing war effort, but has not yet taken parallel measures to mobilize Russian manpower on a large scale.
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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 09:08
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Originally Posted by kamanya
What is a point of interest is the almost complete lack of evidence of the use of Switchblade weapons. I’ve seen one video of a 300, but nothing else.

I wonder why?
FWW, Russians claim they fail to explode.
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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 09:11
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Originally Posted by fdr
Interesting reductionist theory.

Letters are law, my internet bill arrives in an envelope, therefore I must be in the Kremlin. Or a duck. Get confused on the details....

Under a dictatorsip, the law is whatever the guy with the guns says it is. Count Putin (not Count De Money.... thats Mr Brooks side kick... ) has the round thingey things of all of the Russian people in his soap bag, and he is not afraid to use it, like Donkey. Donkey however had a heart, whereas dracula Putin is reminiscent of the tin man in wonderland.
Putin makes laws in *Russia* so he can claim he is a democracratically elected politician who doesn't break the law.
it's a smart approach.
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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 09:32
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Would an integrated Belarus be a help or liability for Russia?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/...on-ukraine-war

“Putin says Western sanctions pushing Russia-Belarus unification

The two countries signed a treaty in support of integration in 1997, and have sped up that process in recent years.“
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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 10:22
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Originally Posted by peter we
FWW, Russians claim they fail to explode.
yes but apparently condition of use is no distribution of feeds, its hard to tell what going on with them, suspect they are doing quite well. Probably why france has requested an FMS purchase of an undetermined amount



In other news ! First confirmed use of a sensor fuzed munition ?

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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 10:28
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Originally Posted by peter we
FWW, Russians claim they fail to explode.
Well they would, you are hardly going to tell the enemy, sh*t, these things are killing us and destroying our tanks etc are you, that just makes them want to use more, saying they don’t work possibly has the opposite effect.
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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 10:31
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Well they would, you are hardly going to tell the enemy, sh*t, these things are killing us and destroying our tanks etc are you, that just makes them want to use more, saying they don’t work possibly has the opposite effect.
even the ones they show as "not expoded" the front has been blown off. The rest is somewhat intact. Exactly what you would expect of a directional explosive charge
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Yes, rather like all the captured NLAWS the Russians keep showing, all from the side never showing if the disposable weapon had actually been fired, the battlefield will be littered with empty boxes or fired tubes, stacking them up does not make captured weapons.

As for the 300 switch, one would have thought more films would be out there if they were a mega success, however France wanting them means they must be getting positive feedback.

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This is interesting, a new film of a TB2 taking out a Grad on the Snake island Jetty, as you watch it there is a quick shot in colour looking along the jetty at the explosion, did the Russians not disable the CCTV cameras on the Jetty, if so, have the Ukrainians been able to watch their comings and goings all along? that will explain the smoke on the aerial shots where you can see smoke drifting from the jetty.

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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 16:08
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At the end of that video they list 4 or 5 vehicles taken out.
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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 16:31
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix
At the end of that video they list 4 or 5 vehicles taken out.
Yes, at the start when they zoom in you can see several clumped together on the Jetty, the Grad is hit and they all appear to go up.
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Old 2nd Jul 2022, 19:29
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
This is interesting, a new film of a TB2 taking out a Grad on the Snake island Jetty, as you watch it there is a quick shot in colour looking along the jetty at the explosion, did the Russians not disable the CCTV cameras on the Jetty, if so, have the Ukrainians been able to watch their comings and goings all along? that will explain the smoke on the aerial shots where you can see smoke drifting from the jetty.
WAY more likely to be spliced in unrelated footage. Even the thread people suggest its from one of the neptune test firing's
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I see Canadian volunteer is no more, he has been outed and removed.

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Old 3rd Jul 2022, 06:13
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I don't know....
This clip posted on the Schiller Institute YT platform.
From what he says, he has 'street creds' and if all true, is a very brave pilot.

In his statements, I can see some truths in his assessment. However, I wonder if his thinking is based on 'old times'. As in todays economic sanctions that are now far more integrated with computers/stock markets etc.
Are his views on artillery quantity amounts that the Russians have (we know this to be true), but can maybe be 'faired up' with the latest GPS missiles that are now in Ukrainian hands,,



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Old 3rd Jul 2022, 07:15
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Originally Posted by Obba
I don't know....
This clip posted on the Schiller Institute YT platform.
From what he says, he has 'street creds' and if all true, is a very brave pilot.
Whilst I don't know the exact financial arrangements, the SI has always been very anti-NATO and pro-Russian. Their news articles tend to mirror the more familiar propaganda sites quite closely and they have been advocating for Ukrainian surrender since day one. The guest is likewise a regular contributor to RT.

None of that means he is wrong of course, but worth listening with that context in mind.
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Old 3rd Jul 2022, 08:03
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Originally Posted by Obba
In his statements, I can see some truths in his assessment.
Ukraine Has Lost the War: But Thermonuclear War Still Threatens - YouTube
Regardless of the outcomes of the war (FWIW I agree with him, but for different reasons) his statement that Europe is the biggest loser is undisputable:

On a purely practical level, the economic cost is ruinous: increased energy costs, cost of accelerated pivot to alternative energy, opportunity cost of the pivot (eg - automotive industry), increase of defense expenditure, cost burden of refugees, integration of Ukraine in EU and funding its re-building, etc...

We're talking a decade(s) of increased expenditure. With the average European squeezed as it is, I wonder where all that extra money - that wasn't needed 12months ago - is going to come from?
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