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Old 3rd Jun 2012, 19:05
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So it is interesting to note that Alpha is not getting enough cadets so they need sale managers like RP C000 who think of innovative ways to lure cadets into the academy. You call this making an honest living
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Old 4th Jun 2012, 00:54
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so sad and petty that you have to come down to personal attacks..
RP-C000,

In case that you didn't really understand my last post, it was just based on the approach that you, as a representative of your company, have chosen to use to sell the cracked ideas to people in here! I don't really know whether if it was your own initiative to handle the objections and criticism against MPL and AAG in that way or was it your company that came to convince you that this was the right way to do it! Well..It's not working anyway I'm afraid! I'm pretty sure some people here or there may get lured by MPL, but I just feel sorry for them that they came to believe it too that this is the way to gain a distinctive advantage for themselves over CPL/IR guys right here right now!

The majority of people here do know that CPL/IR is the safest way to make things happen. Why would somebody take the risk with the MPL at AAG unless he/she doesn't really care about wasting the cash on your company or if he/she was just a pure risk taker?! In both cases, these are certainly not the type of rational and mature people that an airline would be happy to hire!
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Old 4th Jun 2012, 15:14
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Taras B
and being German.
... so are you saying our proud local Filipino cadets or hard working cadets from Middle East are inferior compared to Germans.....
WOW ! you have such low value for own people and fellow Asians.. Are you really a Filipino as you claim to use Tagalog all the time.
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Old 4th Jun 2012, 18:49
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Well my friend does intend to go to Singapore but not to stand near your stand and share a beer with the management of Alpha. There will be a purpose of the visit to APAC in August and that is to expose you all to the entire aviation community. He will bring to the attention of everyone concerned and rest of the aviation community that Alpha inducts cadets into their MPL programme with compass scores as low as 12 out of 35 and then issues a letter that they have successfully passed the pilot assessment test. Later they are entrenches and Alpha keeps their money. The reason being as per contract no refund. Well isnt it a smart thing to do. Thus Alpha will need a lot of explaining to do. Well guys take a note according to EPST you need 24 out of 35. Thus if you are facing difficulty in your core flying, sim flying or in your line training beware that you too have been inducted into the MPL programme with low compass scores and just do not blame yourself for your plight but blame Alpha. The more time you will take to settle the issues the worse it is going to get for you all.
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Old 6th Jun 2012, 13:33
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Hi Guys,

The day after my post, I visited Alpha...I was happy to meet some of the PPRuNers & wished them all the best in their training...so, I went into almost all Depts & checked & got alots of new stuff, here's some of what I got:

1. Selection Process:

It is & from now on, going to change...ABY will be involved from day ONE, it is now done in 3 days, with much more focus on the Scores/Grades, CGI/HOT/ABY HR & Flight Crew will be involved.

Selection process include now Group exercises, more personality & motivational aspects, more professional Interviews (Panel)...etc. I heard that a third Party (another Company) will conduct a part of the selection process.

The Selection process will be done twice a month...instead of a walk-in basis or one/one or whenever you are free kinda thing...I heard that the chances would become 10 to 15 out of an average of 35 applicants...

Hope that this will save some people's Pocket(s)


2. Shifting to a New Premises/Building:

As the flight line is not anymore that important (shifted to Australia), thus being at the airport is not that effective, I heard/confirmed that Alpha will be Shifting somewhere better (New building or so), with a much more better organised Facilities & distribution...maybe by the end of the year or next summer !


3. New FNPT/Sim

They are planning to buy a new Sim, maybe MFTD or Level D or FNPT II, but a new sim will be there...checking the costs I guess !!!


4. Sim booking & Session planning

I have confirmed that AAG have booked the MFTD/A320 Level D sim sessions until Mid 2013, with both ABY & CAE Dubai...to make sure there is no bottle-necking anymore.


5. New Hires

There are more instructors getting hired for the Ground/FNPT II/A320 Training to boost the training (no delays because of Man-power).

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I still have more news to Confirm, but I have to go for the Nairobi flight guys

But here is what I know, Thanks to You PPRuNers, you have made Alpha (Sharjah) Change somehow...but still, more to be done...please let me know if I am trying to lie here

Oh BTW, Aakhan, how's line training? See you around soon
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Old 6th Jun 2012, 18:47
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1. Selection Process:

It is & from now on, going to change.......

So Malirm you really seem to have short memory as you even heaped praises on the present selection process in your earlier posts many times. Could you explain why this sudden change in the selection process and the reason is because Alpha has been exposed. What about the cadets who will be entrenched for the next two years because of you faulty selection process. Who will take resposibility of those cadets. Really what would you do had you been in their shoes. Let me put it this way that may be an insensitive person.

Really it is so easy for Alpha to wash their hands off so easily by saying we are changing our slection process. Who will be decent to take resposibility of the mistakes made. What were they doing up till now sleeping? How many cadets must have been affected and entrenched because of the faulty selection process. Malirm i am shocked that you cannot think beyond yourself thus you have no hesitation in writing these long posts. Look beyond yourself . Think of the time and money some entrenched cadets have lost. Do not be so arrogant since you do not know what the future holds for you. Show some consideration for cadets
who worked hard for their ground school and may have infact got better results than you but had no aptitude to fly but were inducted into the
programme to fill up the empty seats in Alpha.

You know Malirm in my eyes you are a self obsessed person who can write any post on behalf of Alpha for his personal gains. Nobody takes your posts seriously.

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Old 6th Jun 2012, 22:42
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Thanks

Thanks Aakhan, but First of all, CONGRATS on getting your MPL & having signed your Line Training Contract (welcome to the Club) & starting your line training AND Second of all...I didn't expect that from you, I was just sending my greetings ! NOTHING at all Personal !!!

Speaking about the Praises to the current selection process...what do you know about it...it has changed 3 times when I was still at the Academy and this is the 4th time...all the 4 processes are LEGAL & are done by certified programs..etc. it's up to the Company to accept you with the low grades or not (if GCAA wasn't caring about it !!! )...I didn't say that it was PERFECT or Very Hard or Very easy...etc. I personally have tried Pilapt (with its different versions), Compass & IPAT, AAG were using Pilapt, then Shifted to Compass...etc. all are well known & effective

So, I understand that you are blaming me of attracting cadets into the academy by talking about the nice stuff (paradise) i.e. Lying (although I was just sharing my experiences...the BAD & the GOOD...check my posts again), man, you just mentioned "Nobody takes your posts seriously." anyways, maybe at that time it wasn't the case, but, WHAT ABOUT you as a receiver, didn't you check about what am I talking about???...but as a matter of fact...I haven't prepared your training contracts...I haven't conducted your Tests, I haven't created your ground school tests...etc. I was busy with the same stuff that you came in for (MPL training).

BTW, What are my Personal Gains...please say it...since we are neighbors...we can talk about it face-to-face...or here, if it was money, I guess you know about me, if it was about showing-off...well, I have better places to show-off

The thing that I won't do is SPITTING IN A PLATE THAT I ONCE ATE FROM, my religion teaches me that...always keep the positive thoughts about everything, but work for the worst...did I lie/falsify stuff, well, go back through my posts & let me know where I did...you might find some

Speaking about "looking beyond myself/insensitive/Self Obsessed"...etc. stuff...as if I wasn't stuck there for the last 3 years (Before you pay your second installment maybe even the First...NO OFFENSE)...anyways man, I can't believe that it is you who would say that...I guess that it is better to spend this time on your line training prep, you have a Long List to discuss (as we all did)...

I wish you all the best, from my heart in your career, thanks for the call today I hope we stay in-touch man... no matter what you say to me/about me, I will be there for you...I hope you do the same for me, as I know...one day(s) in the future I will be needing your aid & help TC

Taras B, I Respect You

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Old 7th Jun 2012, 03:07
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Aakhan, its amazing you will soon be a successful pilot after the training you have received at Alpha and you continue to bitch and moan and insult people who are talking facts about AAG.
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Old 7th Jun 2012, 03:48
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Aakhan, its amazing you will soon be a successful pilot after the training you have received at Alpha and you continue to bitch and moan and insult people who are talking facts about AAG.
Wow, clearly he is getting on your nerves. Clearly what he is saying is true! You do not have a better comeback then saying what you said above RP-0000?

If Alpha was NOT in the wrong then you would not have said that and infact had proof to indicate that we were wrong.

Yet, you always ignore my questions directed to u and post the same thing over and over again.

The only reason you are saying good things about alpha is because you get PAID for it. This comes from the fees WE paid. So WE are allowed to ''bitch and moan'' as you have so nicely put it. We are not bitching and moaning. We are stating facts and you are just posting lies.

Ah i smell victory!

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Old 7th Jun 2012, 07:59
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Well Malirm you conceal the facts and write posts to do damage control of Alphas battered reputation. When Alpha was shut down by GCAA in Nov and Dec 2010 why did you not mention in your updates of Alpha. This is called concealing facts. In a very subtle way you lure cadets into the academy and you call yourself a pious person.

The thing that I won't do is SPITTING IN A PLATE THAT I ONCE ATE FROM, my religion teaches me that...always keep the positive thoughts about
Well Malirm as i said earlier you do not know what the future holds for you so do not speak too soon as one day you may have to eat your own words. You are still concealing the truth as i Know that things are far from
perfect in Alpha.
Your warm wishes are not welcomed by me.

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Old 7th Jun 2012, 08:19
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@ Aakhan

Loool, it was mentioned...I remember I was at Clark at that time!!! Nice one, but look closely my friend...and I will say the same to you..."you don't know what the future is holding for you too"

I wish you all the best again habibi, enjoy...
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Old 8th Jun 2012, 03:53
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Speaking about the Praises to the current selection process...what do you know about it...it has changed 3 times when I was still at the Academy and this is the 4th time...all the 4 processes are LEGAL & are done by certified programs..etc. it's up to the Company to accept you with the low grades or not (if GCAA wasn't caring about it !!! )...I didn't say that it was PERFECT or Very Hard or Very easy...etc. I personally have tried Pilapt (with its different versions), Compass & IPAT, AAG were using Pilapt, then Shifted to Compass...etc. all are well known & effective
Well you really do not need to change the selection process or the tool now and then. Which ever tool you use you got to use ethically and abide
by the recommendations of that company. It is as simple as that. Thus if compass recommends that you should take cadets with minimum score of 24 out of 35 then you must follow the recommendations otherwise why use any tool at all. But you fail to understand this. I am sorry to say that it not up to the company to accept cadets with low scores and i am afraid only Alpha can do that. I am really interested to know who has given you this information that you can take cadets with low score.

Since you support a company which uses compass unethically my future cannot be as dark as yours. I repeat that in my eyes you are a self obsessed insensitive person who has become a spoke person of Alpha and keeps confirming information on behalf of Alpha. I do not wish to exchange any greetings with you.

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Old 8th Jun 2012, 18:29
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AS you wish

Aakhan, as you wish, but I just wanted to clarify that about the selection program(s)/Process

I know & you know that AAG had to get the high & well scored cadets in through, instead of what happened...not any kind of selection!

I was here to share my experience(s)...the good & the bad, I haven't come here to swear at Alpha, GCAA or Air Arabia or even at you. Since I was here, I highly recommended people to WAIT & see the outcome of AAG's Batches to take a decision to do what I did or go somewhere else...whether here or in PMs or even Facebook...

I said this & I will mention it again...I HAD FRIENDS & I STILL HAVE FRIENDS IN THAT ACADEMY & I WON'T GIVE UP FOR THEM TO HAVE A BETTER TRAINING, MY BATCH-MATES' FEEDBACK (including mine) HAD IMPROVED THE TRAINING AT AAG, AS WELL AS THE OTHER BATCHES' FEED-BACK...

AAG is not perfect...maybe way far from perfect, as well as it is part of ME...of my history & a part of others' history...thus, ofcourse, AAG's improvement is a MUST to me, it is not a Company I worked for...it is an Institution that changed my life (to the better for most of us ) So please...when it comes to quality, training & entrenchment issues I am 100% against not being upto the the standards...there is no zic zac around it BUT you have to mention the good & the bad stuff...as ALL Companies does have a mix of both & no experience(s) will be the same...

Good Nighty

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Old 8th Jun 2012, 19:02
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Malirm if Alpha inducts even 1 cadets with low score of 12 out of 35 it is wrong when the minimum score recommended by compass is 24. This cadets cannot fly and has wasted two years of his life. Would you like to be in his shoes. Can you imagine the grief caused to him and his family because of the irresponsible and unethical use of compass. Hope you will stop writing posts whereby other naive cadets are lured into the programme. It is not the responsibility of cadets to improve Alpha.

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Old 9th Jun 2012, 07:59
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Why do I feel that this thread has become all about one upmanship!!!!!
cadets have graduated, joined arabia, flying the line and doing a good job! We all know alpha has had problems. Well, who does not? B747, A380, B787 all had teething problems! Questions is is alpha doin enough to solve those problems and have they got better over the years. Why isn't this point being discussed?

Having said that I would still be wary about the MPL route....!

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Old 11th Jun 2012, 10:26
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I pity you now. I am a cadet of this joke of a school and i KNOW that whatever taras has posted is true!

Also whenever i have asked ur friend RP questions he has ignored them and just requested that I stop making useless posts since AAG will after help me to get a job.

Think about what goes through my mind when all i read from you and RP is '' stop posting useless info''. I am sorry but if that was in a debate you would have lost in 1 min. That is NO way to defend AAG and its rep.
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Old 11th Jun 2012, 11:37
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honestpilot who told you will not get a job with ABY after you SUCCESSFULLY complete your MPL and base checks on A320..
Pls go ask the management for a clarification.

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Old 11th Jun 2012, 15:19
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they are facts my friend. I can vouch for them all.

We both know that alpha is probation and we also know that the flying school was closed BEFORE the students who were flying in alpha could finish their training. They had just a few hours left. Some only had ONE hour left so please do not give a lame excuse by saying that it was voluntarily closed! No flying shool would do that since they are the ones losing money and the students lost time! They had to wait for a few weeks until the got their license to fly! They could not go solo before that!

That much trouble and u STILL want to say that u closed it voluntarily!


Now when they went to Australia they had to waste 2 months or so! And why ? because alpha cannot maintain its flying safety to a required standard.

My piece of advice is this. All flying school makes mistakes. Admit them, correct them and then move on and improve on it. Do not try and deny it. People here are not stupid so do not treat them like one!
I made this post which you have yet to agree with. You completely ignored it and said that it was actually closed down by Alpha!
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 00:13
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Waw

This is Cool, 48 hours & a lot read

Keep up the good work People !!!
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Old 12th Jun 2012, 07:44
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Quoted from RPC 000 last post
[quotehonestpilot who told you will not get a job with ABY after you SUCCESSFULLY complete your MPL and base checks on A320..
Pls go ask the management for a clarification.][/quote]

RPC 000, again a futile attempt to sound minimally intelligent and in the know. FYI there have been students who have been told that they wouldn't get a job at ABY by the management of AAG. And some of them are already holders of an MPL licence.
There's no excuse for AAG management not to have pushed the last few students into Air Arabia through Alpha Sharjah by now.
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