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Old 10th May 2012, 06:27
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right, and why were these mistakes made. I do not want reasons that MPL is new and all of that! AAG has had experience at Clarke and they have still performed badly. AAG is also not the first flying school to have ever opened and they could have used past experiences to avoid this mistake.

Having flying captains flying more than they should by law is not just a small mistake. It could have been easily avoided. Hell, even I could have done a better job than the management at alpha. If u do not follow rules which are written in stone u cannot call it a mistake. Everyone knew that they were making the mistakes but no one cared until they were caught! I really wonder what else u have hidden from us!
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Old 10th May 2012, 21:04
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So i was looking to join Alpha for their next batch but after I read everything on this forum, i really cant decide whether to go ahead with my decision or not?

Honest opinion please?
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Old 11th May 2012, 15:07
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Even I was thinking of joining Alpha..but now I have second thoughts.
@Halla Halla, we are in the same boat mate. I have been looking at Emirates's course, it looks good but its pretty damn expensive! Comes up to 545 k AED.

When I went to alpha shj and talked to Mr. YP, he said the course fees in 440 k and nothing else will be added to it, but does alpha ask for more before the line training? If yes, could you please tell me the amount, because I want to compare the fees structures of AAA and EK.

thanks
 
Old 11th May 2012, 16:43
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Dear all,

I'm a professional pilot with ABY and I just want you guys to understand the most important thing: There is no JOB GARANTEE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
I joined ABY with thousands of hours on the bus. I only signed my contract after successful completion of my line training. Yes, every time you change airline you have to undergo line training ALL OVER AGAIN (just less sectors to fly off course but still)
Every 6 months I have to demonstrate during 2 days simulator sessions that I'm worthy, that I AM A PROFESSIONAL PILOT, so I can still fly.
And I paid A LOT OF MONEY for my training too (even more than you guys, I did it all in Europe)...with no garantee of ANY JOB.
That's the game...I am the garantee of myself...I study hard...I love my job...I deliver a highly professional standard... the airline is happy...I fly.
That's how I keep my dreamjob alive.
Best of luck to y'all "who dare" to take the "faith leap" (like Assassin's Creed game)...the journey is rough but full of joy if you can.
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Old 11th May 2012, 16:53
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Bettigo: not quite the same situation

IF you are a professional pilot and with Air Arabia, congratulations.

I fear that a "professional" pilot, would not call himself a "professional" pilot, but then perhaps English level4.

Seriously, the saga at AAA is much dirtier than your seem to understand.

glf
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Old 11th May 2012, 17:53
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I am always suspicious of any pilot who calls himself professional more than once in a post!
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Old 11th May 2012, 18:20
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All right then...Message received.
Indeed I said professional too much My poor level 4 gets me a lot
My point is: Do your best, there's no reason not to get the job(even if everybody says there's no garantee). We need pilots.
Do not study, do not perform well, be rude, arrogant...you can guess how far you go.
Best of luck.
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Old 11th May 2012, 22:24
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@ Taras B & Honest Pilot

Thanks for the information and guidance. My question is, are you guys in this MPL course yourself? I just ask because i want to confirm that people who influence my decision regarding such an important career move, are close to the real situation themselves..

Thanks again, seems like a dodged a bullet there
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Old 12th May 2012, 08:30
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Taras B, excellent post. Puts it all in perspective. Anyone thinking of embarking on an MPL course should read your words.
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Old 12th May 2012, 16:10
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@ honestpilot

So what if alpha sent us to australia?...they got our training done in two months!....yes they told us before we joined that we Would be doing flying here and its gonna take 6 months!...thats what is said in my contract!...so i guess 2 months instead of 6 is not too bad after all!.....plus i got to do my flying at AAPA which was a really good experience that i'll always cherish!...

And personally for me and i can speak for my batch when i say 'Things are better and still getting better!'....the best is yet to come

Now that ur in the course you can either be positive about it and look forward to your training, OR continue to talk bad about it!..

And you dont have to say 'sadly' your still at alpha, coz no one really forced you to join and no ones making you stay now!...whatever you say, choice was yours!!....plus i know people who have left the course and been refunded with the part of money that they havnt used!..

@ halla halla

Please do not make decisions about your career via a forum post, do come to the academy and check things yourself!..All The Best!..
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Old 12th May 2012, 21:11
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they also mentioned to me when I joined that our training will be over in 18 months. U have already spent 18 months and still yet to get to the line training. U can see why i am not happy.

And I have every right to be sad/happy about a service from AAG. I have paid for it after all.

Lastly I cannot just leave AAG now. This is because i would lose time and money. I contacted many flying schools in Europe and none of them will even consider my ground school. So if i have to leave then i would lose money and time. I would have to pay another $30k atleast and lose another year doing the 14 books again! I would not be refunded cash from alpha on my ground school or flying.

So i have no choice so please do not act so smart!

and halla halla do what you like. this thread does give a good indication to you about the present/past situations of AAG.

If these were all lies this thread would have been closed!
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Old 15th May 2012, 07:02
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Thanks Strato..

I give Taras B and honestpilot a maximum of 24 hours to BASH YOU! You'll see

But guess what: I'm not reading this thread with that enthusiasm and interestic thought.. I don't give a sh*t about this thread anymore.. Too many are saying it's bad.. Some are saying it is good..

But hey,, screw you all!

If I want to join this school one day, I'll GO over there and see it by MYSELF!

Thanks everyone.
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Old 15th May 2012, 07:04
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Stratocruiser377

Are u blaming me for spreading lies? If so please show us proof here?

There are many others here that are saying negative things about AAG since they know it to be true. Are we all ex students?
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Old 15th May 2012, 07:18
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Strato Alpha did not have a refund policy uptil now and entrenched cadets were shown the door. The truth is this nothing more and nothing less. With GCAA intervention Alpha is trying to put in a refund policy. How many will get it God alone knows. You sound like Alpha on their own wanted to be fair to the cadets. This is far from truth. Infact cadets were told no refund as per your contract you signed. So do not lie Strato
Why is there a high ratio of entrenchment in Alpha? Why are not cadets inducted into the training after careful selection process. Cadets who have potential to clear their ground school and also have the aptitude to fly should be slected. The reason is Alpha does not properly screen the cadets. All are inducted into the training who can pay and when they face difficulties they are entrenched. What a waste of time and money for cadets and ofcourse gain for Alpha

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Old 15th May 2012, 07:38
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If I want to join this school one day, I'll GO over there and see it by MYSELF!
go to the school make a list questions you want answered and ask the AAG staff to show you proof of everything they claim.

If AAG says there is 1500 hrs of flying GUARANTEED by Air Arabia then as for the letter and AAG cant show you proof then you can have a serious chat with them.
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Old 18th May 2012, 02:30
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Alpha Aviation Group UAE's 7th batch of MPL students completed their Core Flying Phase at the Australian Airline Pilot Academy (AAPA) in Wagga Wagga, New South Wales

Batch 7 of AAG UAE
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Old 18th May 2012, 10:49
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RP-C000... you are so funny! lol

Why don't you find a job elsewhere?
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Old 18th May 2012, 11:16
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Why don't you find a job elsewhere?
Who would give him a job? Maybe a secondhand car salesman or sending e mails from Nigeria to unsuspecting bank account holders.
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Old 3rd Jun 2012, 12:53
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???

Guys, any Updates on Alpha...how is stuff going on, any delays? any hard times for anyone...why is it tooooo quiet here
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Old 3rd Jun 2012, 18:02
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Totally 377... MPL cadets are rockin....
ABY is very happy with the MPL cadets... Capt Morris of GCAA is flying every month on ABY flt to audit the quality of the AAG MPL cadets and results are great !

vfenext & Taras B & 777-Aviator so sad and petty that you have to come down to personal attacks.. .. anyway Gents have a happy career in what ever you choose to do.. AAG wishes you the best.
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