EK CCM's Fired
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Mascara-prone-prick,
Must be hard being down the back pushing a trolley handing out meals when you know the "monkeys" are flying the plane. You must have a lot of trust in monkeys to put your life int their hands.
By the way, here's a dare, why don't you push your luck and ask for the L1 position on my next flight. Then try not "feeding" us for 21 mins. I'll kick your arse so hard you won't have sex for 6 months!
By the way, don't know of ANY commercial airplanes flying without pilots. However, I know of A LOT of commercial airplanes flying without cabin crew!
(Once again, this rant is aimed directly at mascaraqueen, to most other EK cabin crew, being decent, these comments don't apply)
Must be hard being down the back pushing a trolley handing out meals when you know the "monkeys" are flying the plane. You must have a lot of trust in monkeys to put your life int their hands.
By the way, here's a dare, why don't you push your luck and ask for the L1 position on my next flight. Then try not "feeding" us for 21 mins. I'll kick your arse so hard you won't have sex for 6 months!
Oh! Pelease! I just would not know what to do without flight deck around, you guys are so smart and I am always admiring the stripes on your shoulders and the scrambled eggs on your cap..........
Geez, to read your comment one would think that the world would stop if you did not honour us with your bashfull company.
Geez, to read your comment one would think that the world would stop if you did not honour us with your bashfull company.
(Once again, this rant is aimed directly at mascaraqueen, to most other EK cabin crew, being decent, these comments don't apply)
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I am there already mate, modern technology does wonders I can follow the threads form my little PDA and reply, maybe you should get yourself one of these, they are quite handy, if you know how to use them of course! I can't see any F/D where are you boys?oops!
Just farted but I guess that's a fax!
Can you send one of your F/O's to clean up please someone spilt a beer on the floor, it must be one of those captains you know they can't handle drink!
You can't take these guys out I tell you!
Just farted but I guess that's a fax!
Can you send one of your F/O's to clean up please someone spilt a beer on the floor, it must be one of those captains you know they can't handle drink!
You can't take these guys out I tell you!
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This thread brings a tear to my eye. It used to be that it needed an outsider to wind up the EK guys into a frenzy, now you are fighting amongst yourselves, and showing inclusive CRM traits by encouraging the cabin crew to join in. Now thats progress.
KEEP DISCOVERING
KEEP DISCOVERING
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In my opinion, the occasional conflict or lack of understanding boils down to certain individuals who hail from the eastern med.. They poison, taint and obscure all with which they come in contact. It starts from day one of CC training with the not so subtle jabs at aircrew and continues on a daily basis throughout each flight and layover.
I have recently made it a point to never partake of extracuricular activities if one of these low-lifes is present. Shockingly......... NOT......... the layovers have now become a joy and good time.
My latest was a fantastic pairing where we were visited frequently by the crew, had great layovers and generally respected each other. Its amazing how nice, friendly, funny and intelligent CC can be when not being coerced and harassed by these individuals. Coincidentally not one of these smarmy bastards was on the crew (amazing but true)
Someone mentioned earlier the fear of being labelled a cockpit floozy. What a ridiculous and absurd concept, promoted and embellished by these same slimey, loud mouth, obnoxious men. When will EK learn that a 5% demographic of these idiots .... is 5% too high.
And they stay here forever!!!. Harassing and abusing each new course of CC, as is their 'right' as seniors and pursers.
Never met a more despicable nationality of human beings in my entire life. And this is not a generalization, it is 98% valid.
Don't go crying racist to me, it took me far too long to accept the reality of these people, as i tend towards not generalizing.
Smiling assasins, nice to your face, slag you behind your back at the first opportunity.
The best thing EK could ever do with respect to crew harmony, service and general moral of this company, is to fire each and every one of them tomorrow.
I have recently made it a point to never partake of extracuricular activities if one of these low-lifes is present. Shockingly......... NOT......... the layovers have now become a joy and good time.
My latest was a fantastic pairing where we were visited frequently by the crew, had great layovers and generally respected each other. Its amazing how nice, friendly, funny and intelligent CC can be when not being coerced and harassed by these individuals. Coincidentally not one of these smarmy bastards was on the crew (amazing but true)
Someone mentioned earlier the fear of being labelled a cockpit floozy. What a ridiculous and absurd concept, promoted and embellished by these same slimey, loud mouth, obnoxious men. When will EK learn that a 5% demographic of these idiots .... is 5% too high.
And they stay here forever!!!. Harassing and abusing each new course of CC, as is their 'right' as seniors and pursers.
Never met a more despicable nationality of human beings in my entire life. And this is not a generalization, it is 98% valid.
Don't go crying racist to me, it took me far too long to accept the reality of these people, as i tend towards not generalizing.
Smiling assasins, nice to your face, slag you behind your back at the first opportunity.
The best thing EK could ever do with respect to crew harmony, service and general moral of this company, is to fire each and every one of them tomorrow.
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Helmreich said -
"While effective teamwork is clearly important, it is not the primary goal of CRM training.
The following is a more accurate representation of current, effective CRM programmes: CRM consists of the effective utilisation of all available human, informational, and equipment resources toward the goal of safe and efficient flight.
More specifically, it is the active process employed by crewmembers to identify existing and potential threats and to develop, communicate, and implement plans and actions to avoid or mitigate perceived threats.
CRM also supports the avoidance, management, and mitigation of human errors. The secondary benefits of effective CRM programmes are improved morale and enhanced efficiency of operations."
My dua sen worth....
"While effective teamwork is clearly important, it is not the primary goal of CRM training.
The following is a more accurate representation of current, effective CRM programmes: CRM consists of the effective utilisation of all available human, informational, and equipment resources toward the goal of safe and efficient flight.
More specifically, it is the active process employed by crewmembers to identify existing and potential threats and to develop, communicate, and implement plans and actions to avoid or mitigate perceived threats.
CRM also supports the avoidance, management, and mitigation of human errors. The secondary benefits of effective CRM programmes are improved morale and enhanced efficiency of operations."
My dua sen worth....
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M-boy has got it right. I'm stuck down the back at the bouncy end and always try make it up to the flight deck, but sometimes it is difficult to get past the pit bulls at the front.
Anyways - heard anything about the CCM's. I ain't got one.
Anyways - heard anything about the CCM's. I ain't got one.
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For one thank you Marcellus for giving us your worthy note on CRM, at least one who is pragmatic and efficient in analysing these threads.
And rightly said that it does not take much to wind up EK F/D, you think that the world stops in the nebula of the ops retinue and should feel obliged to you for treating us with a slight bit of consideration. I have you cheap lot around for dinner and seen the ones who drop their trousers collapsing on sofas etc.....
And you want respect, I would suggest you first behave like a captain treat your crew with respect and you will get the same in return with perhaps no one spitting in your coffee 1+1 in your special starbucks mug!
But I could have not said it better:
Please notify us of the opening of the BNP branch so we can join you in for a geek hunt!
If your comment did not sound an alarm anywhere alse it tells me of your lack of confidence in confronting and dealing with "Eastern med" types.
Now that also tells me how good your CRM is and how reliable you are as a leader in manageing your ressource to maintain safe and efficient flights.
By saying so you've already identified a threat where it does not exist.
Boy you should be sent back to school to do a bit of history for you to realise how close you are to infringing social and political etiquete with such comments, that is if you haven't done so already.
Worse though is that you live in the middle East and expect everyone to behave according to your norms......Well well!
But then to add:
So in mensaboy's head crew are simply stupid!
If anything a blatant lack of culture, manners and education! But then again what would you expect from an OZ farmer who's been dustcropping all his life b4 he came to DXB.
Eat your sandwich eat! And choke on it as far as I care.
You will onlny get what you deserve from the Midlle Easterners and I am sure that they are giving you your change back.
And by the way I waited for some of you to appear and celebrate with me the Oktoberfest but no one pitched up, probably short on cash hey?
And rightly said that it does not take much to wind up EK F/D, you think that the world stops in the nebula of the ops retinue and should feel obliged to you for treating us with a slight bit of consideration. I have you cheap lot around for dinner and seen the ones who drop their trousers collapsing on sofas etc.....
And you want respect, I would suggest you first behave like a captain treat your crew with respect and you will get the same in return with perhaps no one spitting in your coffee 1+1 in your special starbucks mug!
But I could have not said it better:
In my opinion, the occasional conflict or lack of understanding boils down to certain individuals who hail from the eastern med..
If your comment did not sound an alarm anywhere alse it tells me of your lack of confidence in confronting and dealing with "Eastern med" types.
Now that also tells me how good your CRM is and how reliable you are as a leader in manageing your ressource to maintain safe and efficient flights.
By saying so you've already identified a threat where it does not exist.
Boy you should be sent back to school to do a bit of history for you to realise how close you are to infringing social and political etiquete with such comments, that is if you haven't done so already.
Worse though is that you live in the middle East and expect everyone to behave according to your norms......Well well!
But then to add:
Its amazing how nice, friendly, funny and intelligent CC can be when not being coerced and harassed by these individuals
If anything a blatant lack of culture, manners and education! But then again what would you expect from an OZ farmer who's been dustcropping all his life b4 he came to DXB.
Eat your sandwich eat! And choke on it as far as I care.
You will onlny get what you deserve from the Midlle Easterners and I am sure that they are giving you your change back.
And by the way I waited for some of you to appear and celebrate with me the Oktoberfest but no one pitched up, probably short on cash hey?
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Either the sandwiches are indeed very tasty, or lambasting flight deck is chocking on the same.
Eat eat! You want some Hommos?
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EK according to Quod Boy
Captain Quod Boy awaiting his pick up in the Springs (AKA Guantanamo) Should be arriving in 5.
Oh Captain yes, yes, show us how much power you have.....
An according to Men is a boy
Some of you boys even got fired over crew sandwiches! Cheap cheap cheap!
Oh Captain yes, yes, show us how much power you have.....
An according to Men is a boy
Some of you boys even got fired over crew sandwiches! Cheap cheap cheap!
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babyblu - nope, not heard a sausage about the ccms.
I haven't got one either.
I was perfectly happy with the one i had b4 so don't want a new one.
think EK must have realised that the people fired were too good for this company.
anyway, thought this airline was supposed to be multi-cultural - how come the office/management is now mostly british??? huh?
and you wait....the new ones will be british too. bet ya.
I haven't got one either.
I was perfectly happy with the one i had b4 so don't want a new one.
think EK must have realised that the people fired were too good for this company.
anyway, thought this airline was supposed to be multi-cultural - how come the office/management is now mostly british??? huh?
and you wait....the new ones will be british too. bet ya.
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how come the office/management is now mostly british
Last count the remaining CCM nationality make up
1 Lebanese
1 Sri Lankan
1 Indian
1 French
2 UAE nationals
2 English
2 Irish
Unless my map of the world is wrong, there is only 2 there that fall under the category of British!
If you want to hand in your resignation Gee Whiz, why don't you pass it to TD directly and discuss your concerns & how upset you are... or would you rather hide behind text messaging and bleating anonymously.
I can understand why you would not want another CCM .... could it be you are afraid that they will actually address your "issues" with you?
Just get on with it or leave, it is your choice. But the bleating has become very tiresome
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This is how I picture the cabin crew:
marscarpone: now listen carefully son, I'm sure you do a fantastic job as a sandwich dispenser. Stick to what you know and let the big people get on with their jobs!
Run along now and go play in the Shk Z Rd traffic!
marscarpone: now listen carefully son, I'm sure you do a fantastic job as a sandwich dispenser. Stick to what you know and let the big people get on with their jobs!
Run along now and go play in the Shk Z Rd traffic!
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Hey Mr. Camelot "Son";
Will you please hold my hand I am shaking!!!!! Brrrr! you scare me with your tone! I feel so threatened!
Been there done that on shk Z road even got the Tea Shirt (blop)
Pleased to see that you at least have some taste.
She is not chinese is she?
I suggest you do one thing, point your index up in the air and stick it in your left eye all the way to the elbow.
Now look at the photo again, that should give you an outlook on our crew!
And to reply:
its actually 3 and I would add not exactly the most efficient but however untouchable by TD's book. I wonder which performance scale they use for this lot, most likely on a negative curve where the X and Y are below zero and on a downward steep curve.
An indian useless git
An English MCC who was previously managing baggage handlers.
And the Irish who was sick the whole time she was on the line and never flew and taken directly as CCM.
And you forgot the palestinian pimp.
What a dynamic team.
How would you like as pilots to be managed by a catering officer and a cabin cleaner?
Don't bother to answer its on the cards next, you had a bus driver before so why not?
What you are showing here as pilots is your inabillity to manage people without resorting to threats!
Keep discovering!
Will you please hold my hand I am shaking!!!!! Brrrr! you scare me with your tone! I feel so threatened!
Been there done that on shk Z road even got the Tea Shirt (blop)
Pleased to see that you at least have some taste.
She is not chinese is she?
I suggest you do one thing, point your index up in the air and stick it in your left eye all the way to the elbow.
Now look at the photo again, that should give you an outlook on our crew!
And to reply:
2 UAE nationals
1Sri Lankan
1 Indian
1 French
2 English
2 Irish
1 Indian
1 French
2 English
2 Irish
An English MCC who was previously managing baggage handlers.
And the Irish who was sick the whole time she was on the line and never flew and taken directly as CCM.
And you forgot the palestinian pimp.
What a dynamic team.
How would you like as pilots to be managed by a catering officer and a cabin cleaner?
Don't bother to answer its on the cards next, you had a bus driver before so why not?
What you are showing here as pilots is your inabillity to manage people without resorting to threats!
Keep discovering!
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Gee wiz can you enable your pm service pls
To the others, dry as a bone!
The truth hurts.......
Whether I am mid eastern or not is not the issue, I would like to see you master the idioms of any other language other than yours like mid easterners manage yours, the truth is you are so ignorant most of you limit yourselves to the vulgar and derogatory terms that are taught you by a pick up of the street.
The truth is was it not for EK you lot would be still somwhere in the boonies of OZ or somwhere in the realm of the Magna carta, but you got your only break here to a "form" of civilisation.
Anywhere else without the facilities at hand here and you would not last longer than a day. And you still moan about Dubai!
It is very much a paradox that somhow society did not start in the UK or in OZ but actually in the mid east, perhaps the day you realise that, you will understand why your little minds cannot cope with the with of mideasterners and their ways.
The proof:
How many of you are doing mid eastern girls?
None!
How many lebos doing WASPies?
All!
It is also likely that before you befriended her, your wife or girlfriend was probably doing an MMD trip with a BHW.
Now tell me the proof is not in the pudding!
While you were still living in caves history was being made here and still is.
Like it or not mid east is not your choice, it's a fact and like it or not it's here to stay with its people.
Because along the way, they will always show you the way the only one you know: The stick!
Now quod and all the boys, go watch jerry Springer tonight, I think batman maybe on, your IQ won't allow you to understand anything beyond that, forget the politics and GW, because you probably think that is the language that should prevail and you would all probably join him on a crusade if you could.
Why not ask Mr. Hilton to join in his rubber shoes?
Or put yourself out of your misery and for once put that fan in your spare room to good use: Hang urselves to these words. and make sure you put a plastic liner so we dont have to clean your feceas after you.
To the others, dry as a bone!
The truth hurts.......
Whether I am mid eastern or not is not the issue, I would like to see you master the idioms of any other language other than yours like mid easterners manage yours, the truth is you are so ignorant most of you limit yourselves to the vulgar and derogatory terms that are taught you by a pick up of the street.
The truth is was it not for EK you lot would be still somwhere in the boonies of OZ or somwhere in the realm of the Magna carta, but you got your only break here to a "form" of civilisation.
Anywhere else without the facilities at hand here and you would not last longer than a day. And you still moan about Dubai!
It is very much a paradox that somhow society did not start in the UK or in OZ but actually in the mid east, perhaps the day you realise that, you will understand why your little minds cannot cope with the with of mideasterners and their ways.
The proof:
How many of you are doing mid eastern girls?
None!
How many lebos doing WASPies?
All!
It is also likely that before you befriended her, your wife or girlfriend was probably doing an MMD trip with a BHW.
Now tell me the proof is not in the pudding!
While you were still living in caves history was being made here and still is.
Like it or not mid east is not your choice, it's a fact and like it or not it's here to stay with its people.
Because along the way, they will always show you the way the only one you know: The stick!
Now quod and all the boys, go watch jerry Springer tonight, I think batman maybe on, your IQ won't allow you to understand anything beyond that, forget the politics and GW, because you probably think that is the language that should prevail and you would all probably join him on a crusade if you could.
Why not ask Mr. Hilton to join in his rubber shoes?
Or put yourself out of your misery and for once put that fan in your spare room to good use: Hang urselves to these words. and make sure you put a plastic liner so we dont have to clean your feceas after you.
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