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Originally Posted by Globally Challenged
Only 1 of the main euro fleets is big enough to require cabin crew.
The others have Inflight Service Reps some of the time and the small fleets only have 2 pilots.
Sorry if €300k isn’t enough for you to run a wipe over the tables after a flight.
The others have Inflight Service Reps some of the time and the small fleets only have 2 pilots.
Sorry if €300k isn’t enough for you to run a wipe over the tables after a flight.
So, a NJE Captain is earning 300K Euro? Is that what you´re saying above?
NJE have an usual steep pay increase from F/O pay to Captain pay, if the Skipper receives 300K Euro and a 3.5 year F/O 138K Euro. Well above double pay!
It´s not important, I´m just a bit confused, since in July this year stated your own F/O pay as per below quote:
"Globally Challenged"
"...My tax return for 2021-22 was £138k gross for around 350 block hours and 207 duty days in the RHS of the Phenom having been in the company for 3.5 years..."
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Originally Posted by Klimax
Globally Challenged
So, a NJE Captain is earning 300K Euro? Is that what you´re saying above?
NJE have an usual steep pay increase from F/O pay to Captain pay, if the Skipper receives 300K Euro and a 3.5 year F/O 138K Euro. Well above double pay!
It´s not important, I´m just a bit confused, since in July this year stated your own F/O pay as per below quote:
"Globally Challenged"
"...My tax return for 2021-22 was £138k gross for around 350 block hours and 207 duty days in the RHS of the Phenom having been in the company for 3.5 years..."
So, a NJE Captain is earning 300K Euro? Is that what you´re saying above?
NJE have an usual steep pay increase from F/O pay to Captain pay, if the Skipper receives 300K Euro and a 3.5 year F/O 138K Euro. Well above double pay!
It´s not important, I´m just a bit confused, since in July this year stated your own F/O pay as per below quote:
"Globally Challenged"
"...My tax return for 2021-22 was £138k gross for around 350 block hours and 207 duty days in the RHS of the Phenom having been in the company for 3.5 years..."
The LHS basic salary is 127k euros so you can see how much of our total package is based on the amount you choose to turn up and be productive.
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Originally Posted by iFunFlyer
The 300k is for LHS, right?
any ideas about RHS small jet for around 600hrs?
any ideas about RHS small jet for around 600hrs?
Productivity for 600hrs RHS on a Phenom is €77625 (paid in Feb payroll)
Salaries were detailed further up this thread.
Originally Posted by Globally Challenged
Not much less - the productivity pay is the same for both seats but does vary between fleets with the smallest fleet having the largest factor to the productivity.
Productivity for 600hrs RHS on a Phenom is €77625 (paid in Feb payroll)
Salaries were detailed further up this thread.
Productivity for 600hrs RHS on a Phenom is €77625 (paid in Feb payroll)
Salaries were detailed further up this thread.
You can make a lot of money at NJE IF you fly extra days, sell back your vacation, don't take any vacation in the summer, don't want your roster at the normal time, forego your 6/5 roster etc. Not necessarily all of the above. But the more the "better". But of course, there are no guarantees that the extra work will be available. It's mostly up to the company how much you end up flying and as a result how much money you end up making. Just keep in mind: If you just want to work the number of days you are contracted for, like your 6/5 or 7/6 roster, published as per the normal CBA publication dates, take a couple of weeks of vacation in the summer then you will not be flying 600 hours and not be making the kind of money mentioned above. Not even close. Once you are a third-year captain, your salary will never go up again, except Inflation correction, for the rest of your career. That's how the CBA is currently written. In fact, pay will go down every time you move to a nicer aircraft as productivity pay is highest on the least desirable fleet and lowest on the large cabin jets. Does that sound like a great place to be for a long and rewarding career?
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People seem to stay long I was told.
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Originally Posted by 733driver
Some recently hired haven't stayed long, I'm told. Probably easier for them to leave than it is for many who have been at NJE a long time.
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Does that sound like a great place to be for a long and rewarding career?
Originally Posted by Less Hair
People seem to stay long I was told.
NJE went from paying the small fleets the least, then paying the same for every fleet to paying the most to those on the smallest jets. Personally I liked it best when we all made the same. Seniority would then determine which fleet one would be able to successfully bid for. I'm just not a big fan of the choices we have been having to make in recent years:Increasing pay or a nice aircraft? Increasing pay or quality of life? It's now either or. The biggest "losers" are, relatively speaking, the most senior guys who want a nice aircraft and good quality of life. Their earning potential is A LOT less than that of those who will do almost anything for money. That's just how I see it. It clearly works for others. I just think some perspective is needed when numbers like 200-300k plus are thrown around. Even a senior large cabin captain cannot count on making 200k. Granted, even 150k is a lot of money and more than most people will ever get. It's the principle I have a bit of a problem with. I'm happy enough with the money I make. To me quality of life is more important than money but I do pay a very big price for that. These days I could probably double my salary but choose not to. I just think variable pay has become too big a part of the money we can make. If I was young and had choices, NJE would probably no longer be my first choice
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Originally Posted by 733driver
NJE went from paying the small fleets the least, then paying the same for every fleet to paying the most to those on the smallest jets. Personally I liked it best when we all made the same. Seniority would then determine which fleet one would be able to successfully bid for.
Originally Posted by 733driver
Even a senior large cabin captain cannot count on making 200k. Granted, even 150k is a lot of money and more than most people will ever get. It's the principle I have a bit of a problem with. I'm happy enough with the money I make. To me quality of life is more important than money but I do pay a very big price for that.
The guys on the smaller fleets can increase their productivity bonus by 50% percent. And to make a salary&bonus of 300k you need to live on the plane. Neither you, nor I want this. High salaries come at a price.
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
I am all in for seniority. But you also know that the company will never have a large enough number of big aircraft to give every (interested/willing) pilot from the smaller fleets a chance to fly them. To retain people and to keep them happy on the smaller birds, incentives have to be used. I am also rather on a large aircraft for the comfort and easier work life and I accept the fact that I am earning a bit less than others. Actually, I am happy with it, it's great for them!
As I wrote before, I fly a large cabin aircraft and I made a lot of money this year, I did 550 hours already. Had I done only an average of 450 hours, my productivity bonus would have been 34k (more than double the old seniority bonus), thus the total would have been in the range 175k. That's not too bad. However, I did TBP-light (FW204, no vacation, 1 month roster publication) and with the hours I am well above 200k. But of course lots of boring ping-pong stuff between Paris, London, Nice and Rome. You cannot have it all.
The guys on the smaller fleets can increase their productivity bonus by 50% percent. And to make a salary&bonus of 300k you need to live on the plane. Neither you, nor I want this. High salaries come at a price.
As I wrote before, I fly a large cabin aircraft and I made a lot of money this year, I did 550 hours already. Had I done only an average of 450 hours, my productivity bonus would have been 34k (more than double the old seniority bonus), thus the total would have been in the range 175k. That's not too bad. However, I did TBP-light (FW204, no vacation, 1 month roster publication) and with the hours I am well above 200k. But of course lots of boring ping-pong stuff between Paris, London, Nice and Rome. You cannot have it all.
The guys on the smaller fleets can increase their productivity bonus by 50% percent. And to make a salary&bonus of 300k you need to live on the plane. Neither you, nor I want this. High salaries come at a price.
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Originally Posted by iFunFlyer
Does no vacation mean no annual leave at all this year or no days that you asked for? So company assigning your annual leave days?
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
I am all in for seniority. But you also know that the company will never have a large enough number of big aircraft to give every (interested/willing) pilot from the smaller fleets a chance to fly them. To retain people and to keep them happy on the smaller birds, incentives have to be used. I am also rather on a large aircraft for the comfort and easier work life and I accept the fact that I am earning a bit less than others. Actually, I am happy with it, it's great for them!
As I wrote before, I fly a large cabin aircraft and I made a lot of money this year, I did 550 hours already. Had I done only an average of 450 hours, my productivity bonus would have been 34k (more than double the old seniority bonus), thus the total would have been in the range 175k. That's not too bad. However, I did TBP-light (FW204, no vacation, 1 month roster publication) and with the hours I am well above 200k. But of course lots of boring ping-pong stuff between Paris, London, Nice and Rome. You cannot have it all.
The guys on the smaller fleets can increase their productivity bonus by 50% percent. And to make a salary&bonus of 300k you need to live on the plane. Neither you, nor I want this. High salaries come at a price.
As I wrote before, I fly a large cabin aircraft and I made a lot of money this year, I did 550 hours already. Had I done only an average of 450 hours, my productivity bonus would have been 34k (more than double the old seniority bonus), thus the total would have been in the range 175k. That's not too bad. However, I did TBP-light (FW204, no vacation, 1 month roster publication) and with the hours I am well above 200k. But of course lots of boring ping-pong stuff between Paris, London, Nice and Rome. You cannot have it all.
The guys on the smaller fleets can increase their productivity bonus by 50% percent. And to make a salary&bonus of 300k you need to live on the plane. Neither you, nor I want this. High salaries come at a price.
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Hello!
received week+ ago an email that there will be information about if one is being forwarded to the third stage of selection, did anyone receive the decision yet?
thanks!
received week+ ago an email that there will be information about if one is being forwarded to the third stage of selection, did anyone receive the decision yet?
thanks!
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Hello i have a question about the taxes.
So i guess you all get paid AFTER deduction of social contribution and taxes. Where (what country)does Netjet pay those taxes and social contribution?
greets
So i guess you all get paid AFTER deduction of social contribution and taxes. Where (what country)does Netjet pay those taxes and social contribution?
greets
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Originally Posted by Enigma01
Hello i have a question about the taxes.
So i guess you all get paid AFTER deduction of social contribution and taxes. Where (what country)does Netjet pay those taxes and social contribution?
greets
So i guess you all get paid AFTER deduction of social contribution and taxes. Where (what country)does Netjet pay those taxes and social contribution?
greets
