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Old 28th Apr 2023, 09:11
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Do you know if NetJets is strict with their requirements? I have all of them except the multicrew time, since I’m flying a twin turboprop as a Single pilot, with around 3000h TT.
As far as I am aware, yes, we are pretty strict on that. In the past not so much but when it came to upgrades, it became a problem because the candidate didn't have an ATPL. So there was a bit of juggling to get that done. Your experience is good, but how it'll get through the filters, I don't know.

insider has time to explain how is your normal day by day.
There is no such thing as normal. We have posted about our days previously. It also depends on the season, the demand and the fleet. All I can really say is expect it to change. Occasionally, your destination will change in flight too.
A typical day in Summer would be about 3-4 sectors. Usual preparations plus preparing the cabin, doing the safety and security checks. If it's a revenue, sorting the catering (if on an unattended fleet). One of you'll collect the pax, load the bags, brief the pax and off you go. You'll be expected to check on them inflight too.
Land, escort the pax, check nothing's left behind, off load the bags. Clean, restock, refuel, toilet service etc.
Check for changes. Off you go. Repeat.

Do you receive your boarding pass on your D-1 for your positioning flight? Can you use your frequent flyer or hotel fidelity cards? Do you have stby days on your ON days or its always 3-4 sectors per day? What about extended duty, how common it is?
You'll receive a briefing the afternoon before you're on duty. It'll change about 5 times. You usually can check in the day before if it's an early flight. You can use those cards. Well, you can accumulate points and status.
Yes, you can end up on standby on tour. Happens more often in Winter or where you end up. Number of sectors is dependent on the season. Extended days, you can bid for extra work if you want to.
I believe the long range fleet does more extended days during the tour as it's often cheaper to pay for that than very complicated and expensive business class tickets from the far flung regions of the planet.
Funnily enough, a colleague is enjoying a rare standby in Ibiza today. He's a happy man.

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Old 28th Apr 2023, 18:15
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STBY, what is that? :P

I don't want to sound like a broken record, but if you are looking for guaranteed big bucks, then Netjets Europe is not for you. Yes, in normal to busy years you'll make a decent bonus, but possibly your bank will just laugh about that and won't give you a mortgage based on the total salary, but only regarding your base pay. If you are looking for great camaraderie (especially on the unattended fleets) and a reliable roster while not working yourself to death, then Netjets may be for you! I also made more than 200k last year, but you can never count on the extra money, because the next crisis will come, so be realistic.
On the other hand, if the current pace continues (and we got a round of retirements coming up in about 5 years time. @redsnail, correct me if I am wrong) and the business will not be affected too much (or even keeps growing at a healthy rate), then new joiners will be looking at upgrading in under 5 years. I think that this is really good, considering that we progress our careers and fleets according to seniority.

Big bucks = airlines + private owners
Decent lifestyle, great colleagues = Netjets
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Old 29th Apr 2023, 07:29
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
STBY, what is that? :P

I don't want to sound like a broken record, but if you are looking for guaranteed big bucks, then Netjets Europe is not for you. Yes, in normal to busy years you'll make a decent bonus, but possibly your bank will just laugh about that and won't give you a mortgage based on the total salary, but only regarding your base pay. If you are looking for great camaraderie (especially on the unattended fleets) and a reliable roster while not working yourself to death, then Netjets may be for you! I also made more than 200k last year, but you can never count on the extra money, because the next crisis will come, so be realistic.
On the other hand, if the current pace continues (and we got a round of retirements coming up in about 5 years time. @redsnail, correct me if I am wrong) and the business will not be affected too much (or even keeps growing at a healthy rate), then new joiners will be looking at upgrading in under 5 years. I think that this is really good, considering that we progress our careers and fleets according to seniority.

Big bucks = airlines + private owners
Decent lifestyle, great colleagues = Netjets
If I was "new" in aviation, starting out, and qualified in meeting the entry requirements, I would go for Netjets Europe and sit it out until command. Get command and re-evaluate my situation and what at the point in time is most important.
Ive been airline for 12+ years and Private Aviation for 12+ years. Id rather collect the extra basic salary that we get rewarded in the "large" cabin segment of private aviation, that the bank does valuate as income for the mortgage application ( ;-) ), fly a decent 1:1 rotation with 100-200H a year, and spend my time on the beach, than juggling around the skies 500+h a year. Then again, each to his own.
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Old 29th Apr 2023, 09:37
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Originally Posted by Klimax
If I was "new" in aviation, starting out, and qualified in meeting the entry requirements, I would go for Netjets Europe and sit it out until command. Get command and re-evaluate my situation and what at the point in time is most important.
Ive been airline for 12+ years and Private Aviation for 12+ years. Id rather collect the extra basic salary that we get rewarded in the "large" cabin segment of private aviation, that the bank does valuate as income for the mortgage application ( ;-) ), fly a decent 1:1 rotation with 100-200H a year, and spend my time on the beach, than juggling around the skies 500+h a year. Then again, each to his own.
100-200 hours a year? Yes, if you work for a private owner. We fly between 300 and 600 hours a year in NJE, resulting also in lots of duty time. We actually have to work. STBY days downroute? Almost never happening. I have been in the airlines for 5 years and changed to GA/Netjets by chance, been here nearly 20 years. It IS a much better lifestyle, but after all it is not everyone's cup of tea with all the changes. Some pilots get stressed when they cannot review and brief the arrival, approach and other procedures of the destination airport a day ahead. Here we do this in a few minutes, because changes happen all the time. SOPs save the day and it keeps you on your toes, there's little boredom!

Banks: normally do NOT valuate variable income, because it is not a guaranteed income. It may differ from country to country, though. I don't have this issue, because I already have my place. But those colleagues on an F/O salary with 2 or 3 kids, a wife and maybe an ex-wife, do not have it that easy at times.
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Old 29th Apr 2023, 11:59
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Oh, and it looks like the company has increased the year-3-basic-salary from 66.300 EUR to just under 81.000 EUR per year. For the first 2 years in NJE you'll still get the 58.500 EUR p.a., but in year 3 you'll see a good jump up. Source: the FAQ that was available on the KURA website during the latest round of recruitment in April.
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Old 29th Apr 2023, 23:10
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
STBY, what is that? :P

I don't want to sound like a broken record, but if you are looking for guaranteed big bucks, then Netjets Europe is not for you.

Big bucks = airlines + private owners
Decent lifestyle, great colleagues = Netjets
I agree with everything that has been said before, but I don't think our salaries are shabby, even if there is quite a variable part in it. There is probably no PIC (at least full time, in position for more than two years) who takes home less than 200k. Compare that with FR, Eurowings, or Condor. I think that there are way more airlines that pay less, and only few that pay more. Feel free to take away my illusions

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Old 30th Apr 2023, 09:48
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Originally Posted by Cpt_Schmerzfrei
I agree with everything that has been said before, but I don't think our salaries are shabby, even if there is quite a variable part in it. There is probably no PIC (at least full time, in position for more than two years) who takes home less than 200k. Compare that with FR, Eurowings, or Condor. I think that there are way more airlines that pay less, and only few that pay more. Feel free to take away my illusions
I don't think that our gross salaries are bad, either. It's just that you can make more money in legacy carriers. Air France seems to be hiring a lot at the moment - judging from what I see on LinkedIn etc., BA is hiring (not that this would be an interesting job) etc.. German airlines are, except for Lufthansa, not too well paid. One really needs to start looking around. If I was a bit younger I'd definitely try to get my hands on a job in one of the US majors. They drown you in money.
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Old 1st May 2023, 22:48
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
Oh, and it looks like the company has increased the year-3-basic-salary from 66.300 EUR to just under 81.000 EUR per year. For the first 2 years in NJE you'll still get the 58.500 EUR p.a., but in year 3 you'll see a good jump up. Source: the FAQ that was available on the KURA website during the latest round of recruitment in April.
Hello, just for curiosity about this, the FO salary has risen about 15k, but what about the captains salary? did you have an uprise salary too?
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Old 2nd May 2023, 11:14
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Hello, just for curiosity about this, the FO salary has risen about 15k, but what about the captains salary? did you have an uprise salary too?
Not to my knowledge and I assume that there might be some heated discussions about it.
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Old 2nd May 2023, 12:48
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Originally Posted by pedromari
Hello, just for curiosity about this, the FO salary has risen about 15k, but what about the captains salary? did you have an uprise salary too?
It looks like the company is gambling that the new 2 year salary bump overcomes the trend of pilots signing the contract but failing to turn up for day 1 when they find something better.

There is an active contract clause that if the new entrant salary is increased then all existing pilot salaries rise by the same percentage.
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Originally Posted by Globally Challenged
There is an active contract clause that if the new entrant salary is increased then all existing pilot salaries rise by the same percentage.
I guess that's why they did not increase the year 1 salary, but only the year 3 salary
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
Oh, and it looks like the company has increased the year-3-basic-salary from 66.300 EUR to just under 81.000 EUR per year. For the first 2 years in NJE you'll still get the 58.500 EUR p.a., but in year 3 you'll see a good jump up. Source: the FAQ that was available on the KURA website during the latest round of recruitment in April.
My two year mark is coming up roughly in half a year and Ive not heard anything about this 81 k thing.
Very curious to find out if there is actually any truth to it.

Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
and a reliable roster while not working yourself to death, then Netjets may be for you!
My background is the line flying business as well and I just want to add I do think we work harder in business aviation.
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Old 5th May 2023, 13:35
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Hi,
I got invited by KURA for the online assessment for the 2023 recruitment. Where i can best practice, which test? Cut-E at pilottest or different provider? and if it is the cut-e test which subjects to practice?

thanks a lot for your input.

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Old 6th May 2023, 00:44
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Check out pilotest dot com for good practice tests

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Good afternoon, I got the invitation as well from kura airlines sourcing for the online assessment. I believe the [u]jobtestprep.co.uk is a good tool to prepare for such assessment.
If anybody found a more specific reference please feel free to share, even with pm.
Thanks and the best of luck to everyone.
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Old 6th May 2023, 12:18
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Sent you a private message.
Morning, please feel free to share that message also.
I'm also looking for info on how to train for these psychometrics.

Thank you
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Sent you a private message.
Hi, I would be also happy if you could send me same message.

Thank you.
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Old 6th May 2023, 12:27
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EatMyShorts, I believe you're right. There is a lot of us "oldies" electing to take our pre-retirement plan options of part time. Assuming no big economic shocks, your timeline of about 5 years is pretty accurate. Assuming no economic shock etc, I'll be sitting on the beach in Australia within 2-3 years time.
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Old 6th May 2023, 14:24
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KURA Online preparation

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Hi, I would be also happy if you could send me same message.

Thank you.

Me also, Thanks in advance!
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Hi guys...I received an invitation from KURA for Netjets...can anyone give me a better inside which online assessment to train for and what to expect regarding psychometric / cut - e tests?
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