Yeah no big deal.
Meanwhile, in California ICU capacity has tanked and mass fatality protocols activated... https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...pacity-at-zero Other regions reporting at more than 100% https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-capacity.html |
Originally Posted by KRviator View Post You have 48 hours to produce your licence in Queensland. You should carry it with you, you do not have to. Reference is s.58(3) of the Police Powers Responsibilities Act. e medicare card or passport is all that's required. Don't have to provide an address. This nonsense has gone on way too long. The Public Health Act 2005 gives the Police wider powers. |
You think you can outrun nature do you? Good luck with that.
As a mate of mine said, "look at the upside mate, no one has died of old age since March" |
Originally Posted by Bodie1
(Post 10952193)
You think you can outrun nature do you? Good luck with that.
As a mate of mine said, "look at the upside mate, no one has died of old age since March" |
Watch the morning briefing and see how real professionals deal with this, Chant, Berijiklian :ok:
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Originally Posted by Bodie1
(Post 10952199)
Watch the morning briefing and see how real professionals deal with this, Chant, Berijiklian :ok:
and the irony in all the ‘ha the gold standard’ sarcasm that was across social media 2 days ago now that it seems like NSW’s gold standard tracing is going to (fingers crossed) get this under control in under a week |
They're the best in the world. Also with them doing an exceptional job is the public which is following the direction and rules being put in place in a very dynamic environment so Sydney ppl are just as much to thank.
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I've had to travel through the 3 eastern states quite a bit during the last 8 months, the difference between the states is marked. Being nannied into Stockholm Syndrome in VIC, the constant jingoism in QLD by quite possibly the dumbest politician in Australia (Miles) and the just get on with it in NSW.
Watching the southern and northern borders this morning is embarrassing. Thinking of a couple of mates and the inevitability of them being stood down again after probably the toughest 9 months of their lives, the destruction of hundreds of millions into the economy and family businesses. Well done Australia, 'We're all in this together' |
Originally Posted by getaway
(Post 10951630)
luckily guns are strill legal. I'm getting a big one for Xmas. Watch out.
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Originally Posted by Bodie1
(Post 10952199)
Watch the morning briefing and see how real professionals deal with this, Chant, Berijiklian :ok:
She left Sutton and Dan for dead today. Incredibly detailed and they most certainly know what’s going on it appears. You don’t really need to question contact tracing after seeing today’s performance. Watching months of Victoria briefings you just walk away full of skepticism. Always so many questions left unanswered. Too much unknown and guesswork. No matter how smooth talking Dan and Brett make it. |
Well our boomers are at it again. 70yr old that’s supposed to stay home being an Avalon resident was fined for breaching the health order. Decided to go to Ulladulla leisure centre for a swim.
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"NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian says infections slipping through the cracks of hotel quarantine are "inevitable", after a case linked to the scheme was confirmed today."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-...erges/13007030 :hmm: |
Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie
(Post 10952113)
I am very happy to be in Oz, where 20 cases make news and 1 death is a headline. Not like Europe or Trumptown with 300,000 dead and tens of thousands more cases every day, hospitals loaded to the max, medical staff run off their feet.
In regional QLD, no lockdowns, no cases, and back in April, no toilet paper. But all good now, only difference is, no tourists. |
CDC quarantine guidelines now suggest if no symptoms and have negative test on day 5, a 7 day isolation period is adequate (10 days if no symptoms and no test). At the very least, this should be a reduced requirement for border imposed isolation.
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Originally Posted by Ragnor
(Post 10952226)
They're the best in the world. Also with them doing an exceptional job is the public which is following the direction and rules being put in place in a very dynamic environment so Sydney ppl are just as much to thank.
No govt will please everyone & even the govt you vote in may not give you what you think they should,all the people following the rules imposed will give the best result & overall thats what is happening. I have friends in a couple of european countries who would give anything to be living here right now so who is better off?? Easy answer i would have thought. |
Originally Posted by Trampdave
(Post 10952374)
I m sure a caged monkey in a zoo would be just as happy talking its wild counterpart. 😉
If I want to go to Sydney then that figure doubles plus some. This state has not had a case of virus in-the-wild or Covid death in over 250 days. The only restriction of which I know and with which I am required to comply (other than my federal government imposed, monkey's cage travel restrictions) is to leave my telephone number when visiting certain venues. Unemployment in the state is very slightly above the level it was pre-Covid and as I said in an earlier post, business confidence is reportedly at a 13 year high. Now tell me again, why am I supposed to feel like a monkey in a cage? |
Originally Posted by WingNut60
(Post 10952830)
Not sure which part of the EU you live in, but if I want to leave the state in which I live I need to travel 1400 km (distance to the nearest border).
If I want to go to Sydney then that figure doubles plus some. This state has not had a case of virus in-the-wild or Covid death in over 250 days. The only restriction of which I know and with which I am required to comply (other than my federal government imposed, monkey's cage travel restrictions) is to leave my telephone number when visiting certain venues. Unemployment in the state is very slightly above the level it was pre-Covid and as I said in an earlier post, business confidence is reportedly at a 13 year high. Now tell me again, why am I supposed to feel like a monkey in a cage? I feel lucky to be in oz right now,it is not perfect but putting it in perspective where would you rather be? |
Originally Posted by blubak
(Post 10952850)
Correct,ok there are some restrictions right now which are not perfect by any means but like i said previously look at europe.
I feel lucky to be in oz right now,it is not perfect but putting it in perspective where would you rather be? And that has nothing to do with Covid. |
Originally Posted by WingNut60
(Post 10952830)
This state has not had a case of virus in-the-wild or Covid death in over 250 days.
Any turkey can close the borders and say "Look how good we have done!", that's not the real measure of success - particularly when you are not your own nation, but part of a federation of states. Though I guess I shouldn't be surprised - WA didn't even sign up to Federation when everyone else did, that came weeks later when they finally decided they should be part of Australia.... While I am rightly critical of the NSW Government on many levels, I would say they have been the most successful - and the most reasonable - in the entire thing. They have brought back more Australian's through Sydney since March than all the other states combined! They have done so, notwithstanding they have had several outbreaks and have only closed one border once and even then it took a serious outbreak to trigger that, and they have proven many times they can get on top of any outbreaks fairly rapidly. And even now when when dealing with their most significant outbreak in months, at a time when other states are shutting NSWelshmen out, they continue to bring significantly more Australian through Sydney than other states. Nope, I wouldn't be proud to say I'm from Qld or WA when talking about a COVID response.... |
Originally Posted by Potsie Weber
(Post 10952399)
CDC quarantine guidelines now suggest if no symptoms and have negative test on day 5, a 7 day isolation period is adequate (10 days if no symptoms and no test). At the very least, this should be a reduced requirement for border imposed isolation.
If you want 100% containment, you still need 14 days, sorry. The incubation period of COVID hasn't changed. |
Originally Posted by KRviator
(Post 10952860)
Please tell the rest of us why that might be? Surely it wouldn't be because your esteemed leader refused to pull his weight with international arrivals during the initial stages of the pandemic - preferring to let other states carry the load, while at the same time, crowing about how good his measures have been? And surely that wouldn't be because he hasn't prepared said state for its' own COVID outbreak, instead preferring to whinge about how only "2,000 tests is four times the normal number and that's why people were turned away from getting tested" while NSW can successfully test over 44,000 people in one day!
Any turkey can close the borders and say "Look how good we have done!", that's not the real measure of success - particularly when you are not your own nation, but part of a federation of states. Though I guess I shouldn't be surprised - WA didn't even sign up to Federation when everyone else did, that came weeks later when they finally decided they should be part of Australia.... While I am rightly critical of the NSW Government on many levels, I would say they have been the most successful - and the most reasonable - in the entire thing. They have brought back more Australian's through Sydney since March than all the other states combined! They have done so, notwithstanding they have had several outbreaks and have only closed one border once and even then it took a serious outbreak to trigger that, and they have proven many times they can get on top of any outbreaks fairly rapidly. And even now when when dealing with their most significant outbreak in months, at a time when other states are shutting NSWelshmen out, they continue to bring significantly more Australian through Sydney than other states. Nope, I wouldn't be proud to say I'm from Qld or WA when talking about a COVID response.... Lets enjoy xmas & just do the right thing,u may not like the government or the cho or the restrictions in place but like i have said before imagine living in europe right now,a relative who works in the medical system in the netherlands just told me today they have a government with no b..ls,people just go f u. |
Originally Posted by WingNut60
(Post 10952830)
This state has not had a case of virus in-the-wild or Covid death in over 250 days.
The only restriction of which I know and with which I am required to comply (other than my federal government imposed, monkey's cage travel restrictions) is to leave my telephone number when visiting certain venues. Now tell me again, why am I supposed to feel like a monkey in a cage? if travel resteictions dont bother you, then u are obviously not in the aviation industry or happily retired and u dont give it a ... For the rest of us, its a huge deal, like not having a job since march for instance. A huge cage is still a CAGE if u cannot leave it as u please! |
Originally Posted by blubak
(Post 10952850)
Correct,ok there are some restrictions right now which are not perfect by any means but like i said previously look at europe.
I feel lucky to be in oz right now,it is not perfect but putting it in perspective where would you rather be? |
Looks like ScoMo has had enough of open/shut borders...
https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6218094040001 |
I bet all those police will love being recalled from leave to do this.
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And the NT has already revoked the Hotspot classification for the vast majority of Sydney! In place for 4 days and already reviewed and rescinded based on NSW's testing & handling of the outbreak.
Let's see how many months WA takes...I'm tipping a 1:1 ratio, 1 day NT:1 month WA. I might be able to get back to work by Easter...That'll be after the WA election too! Acting Northern Territory Chief Minister Nicole Manison says the NT has revoked a "large majority" of the declared hotspots in Greater Sydney. This means that Sydneysiders quarantining in the NT will be released this afternoon — although anyone who has been to the northern beaches area will have to stay put. "A number of suburbs that are already directly located around the outbreak will remain as hotspot areas," Ms Manison said. "What I can say is that the Greater Sydney area, including the Blue Mountains along with the Central Coast, will be removed effective immediately." On Sunday, the NT declared Greater Sydney — including the Blue Mountains, Illawarra and the Central Coast — a coronavirus hotspot. The Northern Beaches local government area was declared a hotspot on Thursday last week. Ms Manison said a full list of the remaining hotspot suburbs would be listed on the NT Government's coronavirus website shortly. She warned the Northern Territory would not hesitate to add more suburbs to the list if needed. "Please know that if anything changes we will not hesitate to act quickly if we have to in the coming days," Ms Manison said. "The Territory has been the safest place in the country and that has been for good reason. "Every decision on every day for the last 10 months has always been about keeping Territorians safe and putting them first, and that is something that we will never change." Source |
Not aviation related but I’m intrigued at the apparent softly softly approach to the superyacht that has turned up in Cairns with 14 pax (1 positive) and 6 crew.
No knowledge of international marine law but presumably, just like an international flight, you can’t just rock up without prior notice to immigration authorities. It seems the authorities are more worried about where the vessel has been than anything else. It’s unclear what nationality any of them are but if any are non-Australian citizens, how can the operator of the vessel even consider setting sail for Australia with the current restrictions? |
Originally Posted by LapSap
(Post 10954191)
Not aviation related but I’m intrigued at the apparent softly softly approach to the superyacht that has turned up in Cairns with 14 pax (1 positive) and 6 crew.
No knowledge of international marine law but presumably, just like an international flight, you can’t just rock up without prior notice to immigration authorities. It seems the authorities are more worried about where the vessel has been than anything else. It’s unclear what nationality any of them are but if any are non-Australian citizens, how can the operator of the vessel even consider setting sail for Australia with the current restrictions? |
It's Queen$$$$$land - where money talk$ and bull$hit walks. So long as they're bringing in more $$ to the state than your average Joe Citizen, you're welcome. Just ask Tom Hank$, or the AFL player$.
Allowing sporting codes and entertainment stars to enter Queensland from hotspot states and overseas brings "a lot of money into the state" and has flow-on health effects, according to Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young. |
Yachts are tracked inbound. What do you think the various surveillance and Satellite assets do all day. Friend of mine inbound from Vanuatu had to have a Txpdr onboard and give notice that they were intending to dock in Bundaberg 8 days out. Would be very surprised if this yacht was not tracked all the way.
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Originally Posted by KRviator
(Post 10954221)
It's Queen$$$$$land - where money talk$ and bull$hit walks. So long as they're bringing in more $$ to the state than your average Joe Citizen, you're welcome. Just ask Tom Hank$, or the AFL player$.
"Cricket Australia (CA) says the Indian touring party will quarantine in Sydney instead of Brisbane." "When Queensland raised objections earlier this week, CA approached NSW." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-...sbane/12804356 |
Close all international borders for the foreseeable future.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-...train/13010534 |
Originally Posted by Sunfish
(Post 10956470)
Close all international borders for the foreseeable future.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-...train/13010534 |
Originally Posted by Sunfish
(Post 10956470)
Close all international borders for the foreseeable future.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-...train/13010534 Let's do it. |
Community outbreak just being reported in Victoria. Here we go again!!
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Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 10956919)
Community outbreak just being reported in Victoria. Here we go again!!
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Originally Posted by coaldemon
(Post 10954225)
Yachts are tracked inbound. What do you think the various surveillance and Satellite assets do all day. Friend of mine inbound from Vanuatu had to have a Txpdr onboard and give notice that they were intending to dock in Bundaberg 8 days out. Would be very surprised if this yacht was not tracked all the way.
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Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 10956919)
Community outbreak just being reported in Victoria. Here we go again!!
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Originally Posted by Green.Dot
(Post 10956925)
Standing by for McGowan announcement
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-...cases/13022364 Updated to add.. just reported that an Emergency Meeting underway now in WA to consider a border shut down with Victoria. |
Well where are all the people on this forum criticizing the state premiers for closing borders.....???
Didnt close fast enough it seems.... |
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