Just thinking a bit of data would help show the anger in NSW towards other states and their reactions... Data is sourced from the BTRE airport traffic data to September 2020 and ABS population data to 30 June 2020.

Interesting viewing when you consider which state premiers seem to be quite happy to lock out an entire state, vs a region when they themselves refuse to pull their weight! I guess the simple solution is for Gladys to do what Danistan did, and simply refuse to accept any more international arrivals. I do wonder what other states would be willing to pick up the slack to get 2/3rds of travellers home so NSW can get on top of this outbreak....:hmm:
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Headline in West Australian newspaper this morning : THE BOOM IS BACK - BUSINESS CONFIDENCE IN WA ECONOMY HITS 13-YEAR HIGH

And you want us to do what?????????????

Since when has it not been? The politics is a disgrace. Interesting that approval ratings of state premiers prior to covid had sunk to 19% but once the fear and hysteria had been whipped up, high 60's. Fear, disaster, hysteria. Sheep unable to think for themselves, easily manipulated.

I'm not there now with no intention to ever be. Anger? Whatever you want to call it, calling out self interest and sheep unable to think for themselves probably. Wash you effing hands, cover you mouth and nose when you cough or sneeze, even better, wear a mask. Have a bit of consideration for people around you.

The technical definition of Utopia is a place that hits its high point in the middle of a global pandemic and the nation’s first recession in 30 years. Congratulations are due indeed!!

Can understand why the residents of WA are renowned for searching for highs using alternative means.

You mean windfalls like the baby bonuses, 1st home buyers schemes, superannuation guarantee, low single figure interest rates, private health insurance rebate schemes etc etc...that the current generations get?

Okay Boomer

All of those combined won’t even touch the sides of the massive increase in property prices, lower mortgages needed when buying their first homes, mortgage payments as a percentage of income, increase in share markets, and participating in tax schemes etc that weren’t all tracked electronically. Yet....it’s always ‘give me more’ and ‘how dare the younger generations’

These aren't "windfalls", they are the Government's never ending expansion of monetary supply through woeful fiscal and monetary policies. They've inflated those markets enormously. The pain of which is being felt by the younger generations as they are increasingly priced out of them.

Borders are really slamming shut. Now Victorians arriving from Sydney after midnight tonight won’t be allowed back into Victoria. Hotel quarantine is not even an option. They have to remain in NSW!!


And the road blocks are going back up in QLD.

Came here to comment on the same thing regarding Victoria. Surely that can’t be legal?

"In terms of people arriving after midnight Monday, the very strong message is anyone, Victorian or otherwise, coming in from the Greater Sydney area or Central Coast area will not be able to enter the state," Jeroen Weimar said.

"We are not offering mandatory hotel quarantine as an option."

Pretty short sighted. Drive a desperate person into a corner and they will take desperate action aka just deny having travelled through those places in the first place and enter unrestricted.

Most people want to do the right thing, but dont do your best to impede them. Better to let them into hotel iso than encourage them to cheat the system

think many Sydneysiders going to Qld, will simply say on their pass that they live somewhere else in NSW.

You don't have to carry a drivers licence & plenty of cars are registered at a different address to home address. All our company cars are registered at head office, which is nowhere near where I live.

Jetstar sale - $59 SYD/BNE or BNE/SYD for departures 6JAN-31March. Think they sell some seats departing before 8JAN why nutter Qld premier says she'll open Qld border to everyone.

WOW! Dan the man hey. That guy is a real piece of work hey.

Better brush on the Qld Regs.

You have 48 hours to produce your licence in Queensland. You should carry it with you, you do not have to. Reference is s.58(3) of the Police Powers Responsibilities Act.

You haven't applied for a pass yet have you?

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"Just write anything, you will be right" went out about the same time the prosecutions started....

The thread title is now so wrong. I rename it to "Only one border must close" .Yes, that's right. We didn't invent the virus here. It arrived by air or sea. Australia is an island, so in the national interests we just now need to bite the bullet and stop all international passenger flights. All of them. No more tourists, no more repatriations, no more incoming pax or transiting aircrew from anywhere, period. I'm appalled that the new highly contagious virulent strain from the UK has now been detected in Australia. Whereas the EU is already stopping UK flights, Australia is wide open. Enough. Don't let them depart or turn them back midair.

Marine and Air Cargo crew exempt I assume, and Diplomats and others exempt and their aircrew.

No worries Pauline.

What about all the Aussies trying to get home that have had multiple flight cancellations? Aussies that get called and given 24 hours notice to get on a repat flight? Aussies that want to come home full stop. I suggest you pick up your passport and have a read of the pages..............

How many other passenger flights are coming in? Apart from A listers on Globals to Byron?

Yes 100% the system needs to be fixed to be bullet proof but while you’ve got states and territories not working as a team ya got no hope. For instance why is Howard Springs not being fully utilised? Get the ADF in if necessary but use the facility, it’s the closest thing to a purpose built quarantine facility Aus has, get all 3500 beds going. Easy? No! Doable? Yes!

I think we are better than F off we’re full!

Any links to the virulent, highly contagious UK strain being found here in Oz. First time I have heard it mentioned.

Just strayed onto this thread and I am honestly in an absolute shock! Are all Ozzys gripped with fear or is it just a special bunch here? Is the whole island going insane? Did anyone tell u that this is not an ebola outbreak?
There are tens of thousands of cases every day in europe, and the live goes on (though stupidely restricted). Most my friends and I including families have had it, and all that has happened were headaches, some had fever, kids absolutely nothing. Yes, it can be dangerous for some, just like numerous other diseases.
For how long are u willing to stop your lives? You really think u can outsmart such a virus by isolation? And what if u get other strains? Covid 21, 22, 23...? How long can your economy idle and your government print more money to compensate for sitting still? Is freedom to choose just an empty word now?

Kerry Chant said it this morning in her brief

Think us and our economy are doing better than Sweden by a factor of X.
Certainly better than Britain and the USA.
Glad you got it and zero basically effects - How was the flight in the US recently? about to get tested I hear.

Sounds like a lovely flight for the rest of the pax while 3 doing CPR.

What will it take. If you’re stuck over seas well sorry it’s time we look after the mother land. No more extensions for diplomats apranetly zoom is awesome movie stars well you’re lower than the scum on my feet you can’t wait. Time to look after the greater good Australia. I really wish Gladys take the strong approach and stop international arrivals.

Thanks. Just had a link pop up on my news feed. Who says Google is not monitoring what we say and write.

Not something we need. Article stated, Chant refused to say whether the people with the UK strain were in hotel quarantine.

Why is information being withheld? I get a feeling that state and federal politicians and their advisors are withholding a lot of information.

Limited international arrivals, as we have now, should not be a problem.

IF handled correctly.

Turns out, somewhat surprisingly, they are not being handled correctly.

Yes mate, most on this forum are a special kind..

We are nothing more than scared school kids, and we’re screwed unless these vaccines do the trick...

It’s what happens when you’ve been a nanny state for so long, you just do what Mummy tells you “to stay safe”.

I used to be proud to say I was an Australian - now it’s a tad embarrassing.. we’re a bunch of sheep..

e medicare card or passport is all that's required. Don't have to provide an address. This nonsense has gone on way too long.

luckily guns are strill legal. I'm getting a big one for Xmas. Watch out.

Dude, it's pathetic. You should live amongst this embarrassment. You should have seen the airports and highways, it was like armageddon. Pathetic and embarrassing.

The worst group are the boomers, petrified ninnies, their parents would be disgusted.

I've clicked on numerous surveys and it seems 90% want a lockdown to occur in Sydney to stop this latest spread.

while Delta is now flying Americans to EU without restrictions(they might have to wear a mask) & no quarantine. Delta looking to do the same to Asia.

Us ‘ Boomers’ are not so keen on seeing Australia turn into the USA or the UK.. with thousands of deaths. But that’s just us. ( or me).

One things we can agree on. We are not Australian, we are not in this together we are more individual than ever our states divided by an imaginary line each having its own set of rules a federal goverment that’s totally powerless which has really only been realized to us with the outbreak of this pandemic. Some what ashamed on how other Australians are treating other Australians. If you’re in Aviation, tourism or hospitality be prepared for these open close borders which will be against NSW mostly as the risk is higher due to higher international arrivals When Victoria gets its next community case I hope McIdiot and the rest of them lock them out just to see Dan smug face then.

I am very happy to be in Oz, where 20 cases make news and 1 death is a headline. Not like Europe or Trumptown with 300,000 dead and tens of thousands more cases every day, hospitals loaded to the max, medical staff run off their feet.

In regional QLD, no lockdowns, no cases, and back in April, no toilet paper. But all good now, only difference is, no tourists.

You’d be hard pressed to get many Aussies (pilots included who want borders open) to agree with you that the UK strategy has been better.

Right now the figures say our economy is doing much better than Europe and our hospitals have spare capacity.

Not saying all this to be smug, just acknowledging we have got lucky with our geographical position and mining resources propping up the economy, and yes it can all come crashing down overnight.

Thoughts with everyone doing it tough around the world, hope you can have a good Christmas under the circumstances.

That may well happen but i dont believe borders are being closed because it makes the premier of another state feel good.
Why is it that NSW is still allowing gatherings of 300 people & still only recommending masks.
The leading infection experts are still trying to make sense of these 2 decisions so in reality the NSW premier is really her own worst enemy right now despite having done an outstanding job over many many months.

I think Dan is a moron of the highest order. The clusterf*vck in Victoria was caused by incompetence, a lack of oversight and since then there has been little ownership of the mistakes and lie after lie.

But I don’t disagree with him closing the border to Sydney in the SHORT term- Melburnians don’t deserve another lockdown under his regime. I’ll disagree if he pushes for 28 days no community transmission in re opening, that will take months.

Any way they're closed 250 million lost to QLD alone is estimated, QLD to their credit have indicated an end date to revisit the open back up day being 8th January at the earliest. What are the other states going to do? SA, VIC NT and TAS don't have a plan yet WA well mcidiot will wait until March I suspect. By comparison to size SA recent Parafield was much worse by percentage other states except WA seem to open quickly to SA. yesterday 15 (0.041899% positive from test conducted) from 38,500 test is a huge turn out best in the country to date.

As for mask, well Glayds is relying on everyone being accountable and not making the mask mandatory this has worked so far, however, could it have prevented this Avalon outbreak who knows as patient zero can not be identified but suspicions is it was an international arrival hence mask wouldn't have mattered as this person should have been isolating anyway. As of this morning international crew are going 1 of 2 government hotels instead of going to 1 of 22 so this is good start on fixing that hole in the cheese. Next weak link is now international exemptions allowing ppl to isolate at home.