You are wasting yr time presenting anything that goes against the infected/indoctrinated here, they simply believe in their own insulated world of Govt skewed figures that suits the lunatic Govt & nothing will convince them otherwise!

you're cooked if you think that link is a viable source of information.

A few 30yos died in the last week. Unvaxxed

Some elderly may not have had vaccinations due to medical reasons.

Veteran of the drug-testing industry speaks out.
 

Dr Altman’s letter deals with Ivermectin in the management of covid. It has info worth considering.

Veteran of the drug-testing industry speaks out, ‘A Total Lack of Therapeutic Perspective’


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Invermectim is an anti parasite drug, for use vs round worm and similar. It also has some bad side effects that can be detrimental to your health and has no proven effect vs Covid or any other virus. What that has to do with Covid vaccines I have no idea, but it's use is along the lines of Trumps hydroxycloroquine assertions.

Stop spreading this crap and go get vaccinated.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consum...event-covid-19

And please don't take the animal forms of this stuff, as what has been happening in the US, taking horse drugs just proves how stupid people are when deciding whats good for them.

NSW does not do break down of cases anymore, meaningless and pointless. The premier reiterated many times today, 70% vax rate which will be 5-8 weeks from today NSW will not be in lock down or go into a lock down ever again.The break down in ICU patients as of today of the 125 only 1 patient is double vaccinated NSW health system will be able to cope. Shame other states haven't pulled their fingers out.

I see that Qantas is looking at moving it’s ultra long run from London to Perth, to Darwin instead because of the way WA are acting. How many lads and lasses are based in PER on the 787 fleet? Or are they usually MEL based for this run?

Why is that conspiracy nutters ALWAYS think they have some superior insight or intelligence.

Its ironic that the latest iteration of this lunacy is that only ‘sheeple’ take the approved vaccine, apparently the really smart people are taking an unapproved livestock dewormer, based on something they’ve been fed on YouTube.

Ivermectin was used widely in India due to some flawed reasoning, it has since been removed from treatment advice as a result of a rethink.

https://medicaldialogues.in/news/hea...protocol-70790

There is some suggestion that IN LARGE doses far above normal it may offer some protection, however the doses required result in other complications, as this is not what the drug was designed for. Hence the FDA warning as some have ended up in trouble after taking the Equine tablets thinking the increased dose was safe and ending up dead or in hospital.

In normal safe doses it has negligible to no benefit vs Covid. Treatment using it is akin to saying, lets douse you in petrol and light it, yep, that kills the virus, but also the patient, oops. Maybe that's why we have orgs like the WHO and FDA to say what's safe to use.

India was also pumping patients full of other drugs including steroids which ended up giving some black fungus, which is nasty and kills at about 50% rates.

To compensate for the fact that deep down, they know they don’t really. And it helps them feel a bit special.

Yep , it’s unfortunate but some people have weakened immune systems , some are old and frail and some have a weakened mind . Not everyone can be saved and Australians are having trouble getting their heads around this fact , in the meantime we are losing time and wealth while we all pull in different directions .

Did she really say that? I read loosened restrictions, like you can go to the park if the adults are vaccinated, but nothing about lockdowns.

You can go to the park if you're vaccinated from 13th September max 5 ppl. presser today 70%= freedoms at 80%=no lock downs. it will become a pandemic of the un vaccinated.

I'm by no means an Ivermectin advocate, and let's not turn this thread into that, but Oxford has started a trial on the drug for the treatment of covid. It will be very interesting what the results are. Does basically everyone have to apologise to Craig Kelly etc if it does prove effective? Reminds me of the lab leak 'conspiracy' that Fbook had to uncensor.

Study Link

She said there won't be a "statewide" lockdown beyond 80% double dose. A fair call too, very unlikely any of the states would need to do that. The NSW critical care unit is at 50% capacity, if that were SA or WA we would be at full capacity. It didn't go un-noticed that Scomo got the credit for the extra 500,000 doses either. What are the odds that should a breakout occur in SA or WA the states will be slated as incompetent fools for not having enough people vaxed. The political web we weave.

Ciressna, yep, the initial studies were positive, but it's my understanding that the dose required for it to work is way above the regarded safe dose. The resultant side effects from that dose level can result in nausea, severe diarrhea and other not so nice things, which is pretty much what covid gives its mild sufferers anyway. Like steroids it may have some use in this amount vs severe cases where the patient might die otherwise, but it seems India has backed away from it's use due to no firm evidence over thousands of uses that in real life it achieves anything. Indian doctors have done all sorts of weird things with different drugs that has actually made some patients worse off, like the incorrect application of steroids in early cases rather than to treat severe symptoms, resulting in black fungus infection.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...hical-concerns

Interesting read that where it seems the study was completely bogus with false data presented, then revoked as "ethical concerns"

It's nice to think that it could be some sort of magical elixer vs covid, but the fact that it and HCQ have been removed from recommended treatment lists in India means they are pretty sure it has no beneficial effect, otherwise why not continue it's use. It's cheap and abundant.

No, Gladys said “the whole point of getting to those vaccination milestones you don’t have lockdowns in the future you manage the disease” 35 minutes in.

If it's effective it will be in the data from the trial, just like the vaccine. Ill trust the science over the facebook conspiracies. No apology necessary

feel freer, more freedoms, is the whole point of vaccinations so that lockdowns are not needed, did not commit to "no lockdowns" other than a statewide lockdown. Political speak is a wonderful thing. When what you heard is challenged, she will say noooo! I didn't say that, I said......

Keep her answers to the questions separated, don't see what she says as a press release statement