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itsnotthatbloodyhard 28th Nov 2021 03:43


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11147972)
NSW - 14 days isolation for all flight crew, 3 days for pax pending advice. Joke. Flight crew have just been cut off from their families and society again.

Unbelievable. One day they’re wearing brightly-coloured wigs and driving tiny cars around inside a big tent, next day they’re writing health directives.
God help us.

dr dre 28th Nov 2021 03:55


Originally Posted by megle2 (Post 11147996)
43,

you sure about that, I thought a study of who were actually holding off proved to be the reverse

Nope, it’s “King Stupid’s” mob in a poll taken in August of those who’ve chosen to take the vaccine:
  • Democrats: 88 percent
  • Independents: 60 percent
  • Republicans: 55 percent
  • Republicans who support Trump more than party: 46 percent
  • Republicans who support party more than Trump: 62 percent
  • Democratic Sanders-Warren voters: 88 percent
  • Democratic Biden voters: 87 percent
  • Biden voters in 2020 general election: 91 percent
  • Trump voters in 2020 general election: 50 percent

dr dre 28th Nov 2021 03:57


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11147972)
NSW - 14 days isolation for all flight crew, 3 days for pax pending advice. Joke. Flight crew have just been cut off from their families and society again.

I thought the new NSW Premier was some free market, limited government, personal responsibility hero?

DirectAnywhere 28th Nov 2021 04:20

Deleted due incorrect info

cloudsurfng 28th Nov 2021 05:44

My email says 14 days.

Sparrows. 28th Nov 2021 05:48


All flight crew who have been overseas during the 14-day period before their arrival in NSW must travel directly to their place of residence or accommodation and isolate for 14 days or until their departure on another flight that leaves Australia, consistent with the current rules for unvaccinated flight crew;
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/P...211128_00.aspx

itsnotthatbloodyhard 28th Nov 2021 05:48


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11148009)
He seems to be, because we're now back to 3 days, in line with Victoria.

Seems to have changed as soon as the adults got in to the office today.

The current online guidelines (as at 4.45 pm today) still say flight crew have to isolate for 14 days - https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...uidelines.aspx

Do you have other information?

DirectAnywhere 28th Nov 2021 06:09

It looks like you're correct. I was relying on the fact that specific reference to aircrew had been removed from the statement below on NSW Health website. It was there this morning but had been removed by this afternoon, referring only to "travellers".

But yes, digging deeper the health orders still seem to apply. Sorry, I'll edit my above post accordingly. Got over excited.


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SHVC 28th Nov 2021 06:10


Originally Posted by Check_Thrust (Post 11147931)
Although you might be right about the reactions of various premiers for interstate border restrictions the two COVID-19 cases that arrived in NSW are not yet confirmed as the Omicron strain (not sure if you were actually implying that they were).

I have an inside source, that they’re infected with the new strain!

SOPS 28th Nov 2021 06:39


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11148024)
I have an inside source, that they’re infected with the new strain!

You are correct. They have it. Let’s see what happens next.

ManillaChillaDilla 28th Nov 2021 06:53

Here we go again.

Mcd

Foxxster 28th Nov 2021 07:10

Israel , a country that many look to for its good handling of WuHu flu have now closed their borders to EVERYONE for 14 days. That is all foreign nationals. All.




PoppaJo 28th Nov 2021 10:16

Media have been advised of a briefing and presser around Quarantine changes tomorrow, across the board apparently not state by state.

Half expecting our rosters to dry up again very soon or next month at least. Looks like many will take a cautious approach over the next 4-8 weeks, good old peak season gone again.

What a blow.

Australopithecus 28th Nov 2021 10:44

This was always going to happen given the sheer size of the petri dish that covid can mutate in. I expect that we are only in the early innings of the entire pandemic, but it could just as easily eventually mutate into something really contagious yet about like a bad cold in terms of mortality.

On a positive note Pfizer has suggested that they may be able to modify their vaccine to suit in as little as ten weeks. Which makes 2022 a repeat of 2021 if Omicron is as dangerous as Delta.

The early reports are only anecdotal, but there is a suggestion that hospitalisations are lower with Omicron. Here’s hoping…

chookcooker 28th Nov 2021 11:38


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11148094)
Media have been advised of a briefing and presser around Quarantine changes tomorrow, across the board apparently not state by state.

Half expecting our rosters to dry up again very soon or next month at least. Looks like many will take a cautious approach over the next 4-8 weeks, good old peak season gone again.

What a blow.

source?…?….

cessnapete 28th Nov 2021 12:55

Since C19 was a major actor in the UK, we have an Isolation exemption for "Essential Workers". ie Truck drivers crossing Borders with food supplies medication etc.. Also includes Flight and Cabin Crew. All are double vaccinated of course, and tested before a foreign trip. seems common sense, if mandatory 14day Isolation was mandated every time a crew went to Paris and back, we would very quickly bring airline aviation to a halt?
There has been no widespread C19 infection problems. even though mask wearing and social distancing cannot be routinely possible in the confines of a flight deck.

nonsense 28th Nov 2021 14:06


Originally Posted by LapSap (Post 11147952)
More importantly, I want to know why the WHO skipped a couple of letters of the Greek alphabet and went for Omicron. Seeing as the letter before that is “Xi”, I wonder if there was a quick phone call from Beijing saying it wouldn’t be a good idea to call it that. :yuk:

https://www.theage.com.au/world/euro...28-p59cu0.html

In a statement, the WHO said it skipped Nu for clarity and Xi to avoid causing offence generally.

“‘Nu’ is too easily confounded with ‘new,’ and ‘Xi’ was not used because it is a common last name,” the WHO said, adding that the agency’s “best practices for naming disease suggest avoiding ‘causing offence to any cultural, social, national, regional, professional or ethnic groups.‘”

Those best practices were outlined in a May 2015 document issued by the agency. The organisation said at the time that it wanted to “minimise unnecessary negative effects on nations, economies and people” when naming infectious diseases.

SHVC 28th Nov 2021 19:25

FFS SA doing 14 day quarantine stints again for international arrivals. NSW and Vic 3 days. What’s the bloody point of getting vaccinated, there will always be new variants is this how the reaction is going to be moving forward.

Servo 28th Nov 2021 21:42


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11148094)
Media have been advised of a briefing and presser around Quarantine changes tomorrow, across the board apparently not state by state.

Half expecting our rosters to dry up again very soon or next month at least. Looks like many will take a cautious approach over the next 4-8 weeks, good old peak season gone again.

What a blow.

Just like the beginning of this year PoppaJo. Had just gone back to 100% pay and then Delta. We wont be able to keep the house this time. We have only just managed to hold onto it this year. I am tired. The stress of not knowing if we are going to keep getting paid is taking its toll. Meanwhile the executive team and managers still get 100% and couldnt give a flying f%^k whether staff lose their house, marriage or in some cases minds.

Yet another great screw up by government and NSW health. Lets restrict movement to the country AFTER it has arrived in Australia. They dont care, they still continue getting paid, in fact it has secured them more time in their roles/positions.

DirectAnywhere 28th Nov 2021 21:57


Originally Posted by Servo (Post 11148441)
Yet another great screw up by government and NSW health. Lets restrict movement to the country AFTER it has arrived in Australia. They dont care, they still continue getting paid, in fact it has secured them more time in their roles/positions.

I feel for you Servo, I genuinely do, but given this thing was only announced by SA on 24/11, nominated as a VOC on 26/11, and the Omicron positive cases in NSW arrived on 23rd November, I'm not sure how much quicker you realistically think any authorities could have acted.

As someone said yesterday, the only damage from this thing so far has been indirect - the knee jerk reactions of governments in attempting to buy some time. Anecdotal evidence is emerging from both SA and Israel that illness is mild in the vaccinated. Anti-virals in the pipeline will still work. There is some good news out there.

I know it's tough but try not to get sucked in by the doom merchants. Even Brett Sutton said yesterday that in no way are we back to square one. Hopefully governments will listen and borders will remain open.

All the best to you Servo. Take care of yourself.


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