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aussieflyboy 28th Nov 2021 00:46

Testing companies are charging Medicare around $120 per Covid test (70,000+ tests per day in VIC alone). Pfizer vaccine cost around $10 a pop. Perhaps we should all stop getting tested and direct the money to vaccinating the poorer less developed countries thus reducing the chance of virus mutations in the future.

43Inches 28th Nov 2021 02:20

Already being done Fiji owes its record vaccination uptake to the AZ that Australians shunned. Many other nations are receiving a lot of foreign aid in vaccination, money wont fix it, just more production of vaccine, which is at limits. You also have to get the locals to take the japb as well, the US is not stagnating at 50-60% vaccination due to lack of vaccine, it just suffers from high levels of stupid. King stupid made a comeback today as well blaming Biden for the slow vaccination rate of the country, when he 'leads' the majority of those that refuse to take it....

megle2 28th Nov 2021 02:36

43,

“ King stupid made a comeback today as well blaming Biden for the slow vaccination rate of the country, when he 'leads' the majority of those that refuse to take it.... “

you sure about that, I thought a study of who were actually holding off proved to be the opposite

Alfie.floor 28th Nov 2021 02:36


Originally Posted by 43Inches (Post 11147995)
King stupid made a comeback today as well blaming Biden for the slow vaccination rate of the country, when he 'leads' the majority of those that refuse to take it....

How could anyone blame Biden for anything, he’s amazing! Let’s go Brandon!

itsnotthatbloodyhard 28th Nov 2021 02:43


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11147972)
NSW - 14 days isolation for all flight crew, 3 days for pax pending advice. Joke. Flight crew have just been cut off from their families and society again.

Unbelievable. One day they’re wearing brightly-coloured wigs and driving tiny cars around inside a big tent, next day they’re writing health directives.
God help us.

dr dre 28th Nov 2021 02:55


Originally Posted by megle2 (Post 11147996)
43,

you sure about that, I thought a study of who were actually holding off proved to be the reverse

Nope, it’s “King Stupid’s” mob in a poll taken in August of those who’ve chosen to take the vaccine:
  • Democrats: 88 percent
  • Independents: 60 percent
  • Republicans: 55 percent
  • Republicans who support Trump more than party: 46 percent
  • Republicans who support party more than Trump: 62 percent
  • Democratic Sanders-Warren voters: 88 percent
  • Democratic Biden voters: 87 percent
  • Biden voters in 2020 general election: 91 percent
  • Trump voters in 2020 general election: 50 percent

dr dre 28th Nov 2021 02:57


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11147972)
NSW - 14 days isolation for all flight crew, 3 days for pax pending advice. Joke. Flight crew have just been cut off from their families and society again.

I thought the new NSW Premier was some free market, limited government, personal responsibility hero?

DirectAnywhere 28th Nov 2021 03:20

Deleted due incorrect info

cloudsurfng 28th Nov 2021 04:44

My email says 14 days.

Sparrows. 28th Nov 2021 04:48


All flight crew who have been overseas during the 14-day period before their arrival in NSW must travel directly to their place of residence or accommodation and isolate for 14 days or until their departure on another flight that leaves Australia, consistent with the current rules for unvaccinated flight crew;
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/P...211128_00.aspx

itsnotthatbloodyhard 28th Nov 2021 04:48


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11148009)
He seems to be, because we're now back to 3 days, in line with Victoria.

Seems to have changed as soon as the adults got in to the office today.

The current online guidelines (as at 4.45 pm today) still say flight crew have to isolate for 14 days - https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...uidelines.aspx

Do you have other information?

DirectAnywhere 28th Nov 2021 05:09

It looks like you're correct. I was relying on the fact that specific reference to aircrew had been removed from the statement below on NSW Health website. It was there this morning but had been removed by this afternoon, referring only to "travellers".

But yes, digging deeper the health orders still seem to apply. Sorry, I'll edit my above post accordingly. Got over excited.


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SHVC 28th Nov 2021 05:10


Originally Posted by Check_Thrust (Post 11147931)
Although you might be right about the reactions of various premiers for interstate border restrictions the two COVID-19 cases that arrived in NSW are not yet confirmed as the Omicron strain (not sure if you were actually implying that they were).

I have an inside source, that they’re infected with the new strain!

SOPS 28th Nov 2021 05:39


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11148024)
I have an inside source, that they’re infected with the new strain!

You are correct. They have it. Let’s see what happens next.

ManillaChillaDilla 28th Nov 2021 05:53

Here we go again.

Mcd

Foxxster 28th Nov 2021 06:10

Israel , a country that many look to for its good handling of WuHu flu have now closed their borders to EVERYONE for 14 days. That is all foreign nationals. All.




PoppaJo 28th Nov 2021 09:16

Media have been advised of a briefing and presser around Quarantine changes tomorrow, across the board apparently not state by state.

Half expecting our rosters to dry up again very soon or next month at least. Looks like many will take a cautious approach over the next 4-8 weeks, good old peak season gone again.

What a blow.

Australopithecus 28th Nov 2021 09:44

This was always going to happen given the sheer size of the petri dish that covid can mutate in. I expect that we are only in the early innings of the entire pandemic, but it could just as easily eventually mutate into something really contagious yet about like a bad cold in terms of mortality.

On a positive note Pfizer has suggested that they may be able to modify their vaccine to suit in as little as ten weeks. Which makes 2022 a repeat of 2021 if Omicron is as dangerous as Delta.

The early reports are only anecdotal, but there is a suggestion that hospitalisations are lower with Omicron. Here’s hoping…

chookcooker 28th Nov 2021 10:38


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11148094)
Media have been advised of a briefing and presser around Quarantine changes tomorrow, across the board apparently not state by state.

Half expecting our rosters to dry up again very soon or next month at least. Looks like many will take a cautious approach over the next 4-8 weeks, good old peak season gone again.

What a blow.

source?…?….

cessnapete 28th Nov 2021 11:55

Since C19 was a major actor in the UK, we have an Isolation exemption for "Essential Workers". ie Truck drivers crossing Borders with food supplies medication etc.. Also includes Flight and Cabin Crew. All are double vaccinated of course, and tested before a foreign trip. seems common sense, if mandatory 14day Isolation was mandated every time a crew went to Paris and back, we would very quickly bring airline aviation to a halt?
There has been no widespread C19 infection problems. even though mask wearing and social distancing cannot be routinely possible in the confines of a flight deck.


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