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MickG0105 14th Jul 2021 08:51


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11078409)
Scotty better get on that phone himself perhaps to organise those doses ASAP or just resign FFS. His done.

So whom exactly will Scotty be on the phone to and how exactly will they be conjuring up "those doses". Manufacturing a vaccine is not like bottling water or making dunny paper.

Pfizer takes a minimum of 60 days to produce a batch of vaccine, AstraZeneca takes a minimum of 90 days. And those timelines are only achievable if all elements of the supply chain fall exactly into place. Presently, one of the critical supply chain elements are the vials.

Add to that the annoying reality that production is pretty much at capacity currently due to the global demand and, in any event, you can only ramp up as fast as the weakest link in the supply chain will allow.

The vaccine then has to be shipped and there's a complication with shipment protocols - AstraZeneca is shipped chilled and must not be frozen; Pfizer on the other is shipped frozen and must not be thawed. In other words, co-shipping to maximise the efficiency of limited refrigerated shipping assets is problematic.

Of course, the other issue now is the fallout from the AstraZeneca pile-on. Thanks to the likes of Palaszczuk's and Young's politicisation of the AstraZeneca vaccine, there are now doses of that vaccine available that nobody wants. I don't know about other states but Queensland now has a growing surplus of AstraZeneca doses because people are eschewing it and waiting for the opportunity to get Pfizer shots.

So, is a phone call is likely to fix it - you could ask Kevin07, I guess.

SHVC 14th Jul 2021 09:25

Kevin 07 was proven false by Pfizer themself.

PoppaJo 14th Jul 2021 09:30

Canada and Mexico had the initiative and called the Pfizer Global Ceo and increased supply, changed order dates.

That specific executive was actually asked if he had ever fielded a call from the Prime Minister of Australia. The answer was no.

SHVC 14th Jul 2021 09:31


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11078283)
Donít stir people up unnecessarily, there was one new case today and they were isolating throughout their infectious period.


Soooo, I told you so! WA not accepting goods from Vic freely now. Wonít be long until the others follow.

ruprecht 14th Jul 2021 09:32

Surely Rudd’s “Australia 2020 Summit” saw this coming?

Remember that?

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....112b67ded.jpeg

MickG0105 14th Jul 2021 09:48


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11078443)
Canada and Mexico had the initiative and called the Pfizer Global Ceo and increased supply, changed order dates.

Uh-huh. Are you talking about these calls, six months ago, about delivery delays against the previously agreed schedules? Or this arrangement, from three months ago, for Canada to get more Pfizer vaccines in two years time?

Ladloy 14th Jul 2021 09:53


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11078441)
Kevin 07 was proven false by Pfizer themself.


Rudd never negotiated. Just made a call and even shared with the PM. You know the PM who is currently underground and only emerges to sling shit at Labor politicians (Dan and Rudd). Couldn't find the time to call the head of Pfizer in a crisis.

Lead Balloon 14th Jul 2021 09:55

Scotty's just being a 'leader'.

Buster Hyman 14th Jul 2021 10:36

Need to change this title to the Oz Politics thread. So much BS from all sides. It's more about the next Election than the Covid response!

Turnleft080 14th Jul 2021 11:33


Originally Posted by Buster Hyman (Post 11078480)
Need to change this title to the Oz Politics thread. So much BS from all sides. It's more about the next Election than the Covid response!

I think their was a Covid thread early in March or talking Covid under a Virgin thread. I may have said in those
way back then, and most of you now that the scary thing about this virus is not the virus, itís how politicians react to it.
Dan enjoyed his 122 consecutive press conferences, the power in his body language and dower voice made sure
he was going to suppress this virus and everything else in its way like chemo.
Problem is he got on the beers and spiked Gladyís drink and now invited NSW to bat chasing a target of 123.

WingNut60 14th Jul 2021 11:47


Originally Posted by Turnleft080 (Post 11078515)
I think their was a Covid thread early in March or talking Covid under a Virgin thread. I may have said in those
way back then, and most of you now that the scary thing about this virus is not the virus, itís how politicians react to it.
Dan enjoyed his 122 consecutive press conferences, the power in his body language and dower voice made sure
he was going to suppress this virus and everything else in its way like chemo.
Problem is he got on the beers and spiked Gladyís drink and now invited NSW to bat chasing a target of 123.

A pretty good example of what Buster just said.

machtuk 14th Jul 2021 13:48

Remember politicians face re-elections, their whole mantra is to groom enough followers in order for them to continue their lunacy!
upon election time reflect back on what they have done to destroy this nation.,

SHVC 14th Jul 2021 22:05

ML to enter a 3 day lockdown from today. This madness needs to stop time to just move on.

Ladloy 14th Jul 2021 22:08


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11078797)
ML to enter a 3 day lockdown from today. This madness needs to stop time to just move on.

The US and UK have moved on and there's one giant reason why.

Green.Dot 14th Jul 2021 22:18


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11078797)
ML to enter a 3 day lockdown from today. This madness needs to stop time to just move on.

Source please?

SHVC 14th Jul 2021 23:07

Expected to be announced today, just news reports but I would believe it.




blubak 14th Jul 2021 23:30


Originally Posted by MickG0105 (Post 11078426)
So whom exactly will Scotty be on the phone to and how exactly will they be conjuring up "those doses". Manufacturing a vaccine is not like bottling water or making dunny paper.

Pfizer takes a minimum of 60 days to produce a batch of vaccine, AstraZeneca takes a minimum of 90 days. And those timelines are only achievable if all elements of the supply chain fall exactly into place. Presently, one of the critical supply chain elements are the vials.

Add to that the annoying reality that production is pretty much at capacity currently due to the global demand and, in any event, you can only ramp up as fast as the weakest link in the supply chain will allow.

The vaccine then has to be shipped and there's a complication with shipment protocols - AstraZeneca is shipped chilled and must not be frozen; Pfizer on the other is shipped frozen and must not be thawed. In other words, co-shipping to maximise the efficiency of limited refrigerated shipping assets is problematic.

Of course, the other issue now is the fallout from the AstraZeneca pile-on. Thanks to the likes of Palaszczuk's and Young's politicisation of the AstraZeneca vaccine, there are now doses of that vaccine available that nobody wants. I don't know about other states but Queensland now has a growing surplus of AstraZeneca doses because people are eschewing it and waiting for the opportunity to get Pfizer shots.

So, is a phone call is likely to fix it - you could ask Kevin07, I guess.

I had my 1st az shot in early june & had to wait 4 days for an appointment time even though it was a walk in centre however now 'walk in' means exactly that,there is no waiting time.
I think this is exactly what is happening across the country due to as you say the panic put into people by morons such as the chook & young.

Icarus2001 14th Jul 2021 23:54


ML to enter a 3 day lockdown from today. This madness needs to stop time to just move on.
Simply untrue.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...ions/100293522

blubak 15th Jul 2021 00:01


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11078840)

Well hopefully that is true. I think most of us can cope with mask wearing & less people in ur home if it avoids lockdown.
1 big difference between us & nsw is that here in vic the % of people that comply is very high,i guess thats due to what we went through last year.

WingNut60 15th Jul 2021 01:04


Originally Posted by blubak (Post 11078842)
Well hopefully that is true. I think most of us can cope with mask wearing & less people in ur home if it avoids lockdown.
1 big difference between us & nsw is that here in vic the % of people that comply is very high,i guess thats due to what we went through last year.

That's a very polite way of explaining the difference.

But similar here in W.A.
I went down to the local Coles/Woolies late Sunday afternoon just 8 hrs before the mask requirements were lifted.
Rough scan - 99.9% compliance.
That in an area with 3 cases 2 weeks ago.

I guess that most people can see that while wearing masks is massively unpopular and unpleasant, it's a burden that you just have to bear.


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