Talk of banning everybody except those who they constitutionally cannot.

I would not be surprised if McGowan pushes to secede from Australia shortly, and I'm not joking.

They tried once before in 1933, got the votes but then lost power.

43 In I saw a psychologist on the abc news last night who was saying that the suicide rate in teenagers has skyrocketed. The statistics she provided eclipses the "deaths" due Covid. She also said she is now seeing small children who are self harming due to the lockdown measures and home schooling.

https://www.coronerscourt.vic.gov.au...May%202021.pdf

You can read for yourself, no real change in stats or skyrocketing in any particular age group. That's victoria alone though.

Do you have a name for that psychologist or any details on the statistics she quoted?

nobody will say it.

but look at where the cases are. South west Sydney predominantly and also western Sydney.

you want to know why Gladys won’t do a proper lockdown there, Because she is afraid of being called racist. Yep. Afraid of being called racist by the kind of people who have just taken over in Afghanistan. There are hundreds of them in that part of Sydney. More like thousands. We saw them at their finest a few years ato at that protest in the centre of Sydney where they had their five year old children hold up signs saying behead all infidels. Did anyone really think they are going to worry about lockdown laws.But everyday we get Gladys at her press conference saying pretty please stay at home if you live in that area. Pwease. For gods sake.

And that's the simple reason Dan just locks down the whole city or whole state, the suburb thing is a minefield of opinions.

Mick, try googling the information. You seem to be proactive at googling statements or reports that support your premise that everything isn’t that bad. You are always on here saying how well the economy is going and how things are better than they seem. I call bollocks. There are countless economists online discussing how many businesses are failing. There are equally as many psychologists mentioning how counselling services are out of control. There are countless medical experts telling us that lockdowns are causing people to cancel doctors visits and things like cancer are going undiagnosed. Sure, online shopping, camper van and caravan sales and vehicle sales have skyrocketed. But ask the tourism operators and businesses, the taxi and transport industry and the hotel/motel industry how things are going and it’s a different story. Our economy has been broken in half. We have now been saddled with decades more debt. Using rigged stock market prices and inflated house prices as a measure of a strong economy is an absolute false reading.

“All borders to reopen.” I think somebody missed that memo.

The hallmark of a capitalist economy is simply survival of the fittest, regardless of the situation. There is no such thing as a normal economy, it changes like life itself, a business this year might be gone next year depending on what it specialises in and demand dictates.

Business failure is just part of the process, sounds harsh, but hence the term "that's business".

Covid is just a blip or hurdle to make business adapt, could be this is the new normal and we are seeing the extinction level event for face to face companies that has been coming since the internet spawned. The measure of a countries economic output is its GDP, so if that is not changing much, business is coping or adapting enough. I provided the bankruptcy stats for 2019 a while back, was easy to see that the stats were down for 2020/21, why, a bad business loses more cash when its operating in harsh competition, than when its hibernating. The good businesses have "pivoted " to online and takeaway. Yeah general revenue is down across the board, but this ain't no depression, and when things do open up, people will spend their arses off. That's also why there has been no mass layoffs apart from aviation and tourism.

This isn't a blip. It's crushing in its inconsistency for business. It is more like a military occupation. This would be more apparent if Australia was not insulated in a number of ways.

That's my first recourse. I found nothing, hence the question to the Capn.

Yes, using readily accessible verified data to support an argument or contention ... what a novel approach!

Am I? Always on here saying how well the economy is going? Near as I can tell I haven't said boo about the performance of the Australian economy since the 7th and that was simply to state the facts that while the Australian economy shrank in 2020, by Q1-21 the economy had recovered such that it was larger than in Q4-19.

And when have I ever said 'things are better than they seem'? I generally look to quote data - it is what it is.

Separately there was our exchange relating to inflation here, in the US and Europe. You might recall that exchange was where you posted a link to an article that contradicted the point you were trying to make.

You might want to look at the UK data. Over 75% double jabbed, going on for 90% single jabbed, around 25k positive tests per day yet hospital admissions and deaths are low. We are suffering but we are functioning with the aid of ongoing public health measures. Most of us still mask up in shops and such, clean our hands and so on. It is not ideal, but things are returning to some semblance of normal.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk

That's the hidden tragedy of all this BS! The younger ones will suffer & the grubby Govt couldn't care less as most don't vote! Remember grubby politicians face reelection so Its all about staying popular and in a cushy job!

Yep. Get vaccinated.
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No one was brave enough to say it up to now. Foxxster has nailed it.

It also happens to be the area in which the lion's share of drug money is laundered, and that's for the whole of Australia. People who distribute drugs as a vocation are generally unperturbed by minor irritations like laws.

The whole state is in some sort of lockdown now. If she didn't want to he called racist she may as well blanket the harsher rules throughout the state. Racism theory doesn't add up.

None of the state of NSW is in 'lockdown'. The Local Government Areas in Sydney in which most of the cases are arising are not in 'lockdown'.

When the areas in Sydney in which most of the cases are arising are actually 'locked down', NSW will move from half-arsed to fully-arsed. The difficulty with going fully-arsed in those areas is that many of the residents are not used to and are not inclined to do what they've been told by the 'authorities'.

The same does not apply to much of the rest of NSW.

I'm not sure I've read the same article, but I've seen several that seem to support that position. Here's but two...Bear in mind these articles deal exclusively with those that have the courage to reach out for help. I don't know the percentage breakdowns of those that do, vs those that don't, but I'm fairly confident in saying it's heavily skewed towards those that don't and that being the case, there's an awful lot of people out there who need that help but aren't getting it....