I am not doubting you. Do you have a source for all of that? I’m just interested.

In other news…. Our super smart Ballina couple have been hit with a total of $14000 in fines. They are lucky they are not in WA, they probably would be in jail.

1000’s already do. Perspective. 4’ish million dead from COVID - around 60 million die every year from all the other stuff we don’t try to eliminate.

Would love some examples because this argument doesn't hold water.

Another well said post -)
The grubby politicians have dug us a hole so deep that we will never climb out unless they can think beyond their political careers which will never happen!
Remember politicians face reflections, that's a huge negative for the general public when it comes to making decisions outside of their own greed!

For Australia alone, you can start with ~8,500 a year from "Malignant neoplasm of trachea, bronchus and lung" also known as lung cancer. The vast majority (90% men / 65% women - Source) of which is caused by - entirely voluntary, and accepted-by-Government - tobacco smoking. ABS: Leading causes of death, Australia, 2010, 2014, 2019

Of note, "Influenza and Pneumonia" caused 2,373, 2,879 and 4,124 deaths for those three years sampled, for an average of 3,125 deaths per year. Prostate cancer, around 3,100 blokes carked it per year, while around 2,900 women died from breast cancer.

So, between lung cancer, pneumonia, prostate and breast cancer we've killed off around 17,500 people a year! If you want to add motor vehicles, that's an additional 1,100 a year, nationwide...

The total deaths for each year were 143,473, 153,580 & 168,960 - averaging that gives 155,000 people dying each year.

it was mentioned on channel 7 news tonight. Expect the formal announcement tomorrow morning at 11 which is the usual premiers news conference.

Smoking - billions spent on advertising and regulation. This one is a choice and the cost is huge on the taxpayer.

Breast and prostate cancer - billions spent per year on early detection, chemo, management, charities

Motor vehicles - HEAVILY regulated with compulsory billions spent on advertising for safety, speeding and drinking. Remember when seatbelts were mandatory and people cracked the poos?


You know what all these things have in common? If they were all left unregulated the death rate would be astronomically higher just like covid. If we let it rip right now take the swedish, US or UK death rates and apply them to Aus. 30 to 50k dead, herd immunity will not be achieved either. So you're happy to increase the death rate in Australia by 30% for up to 3 years?


Another argument is the cost of a human life. Dead people don't pay tax, thousands of dead people in a short time is very bad for the economy. Worse than the current debt accrued by the LNP.

These are all fair arguments that need to be put to the population in the conversation about a post vaccinated Australia. How do we want Australia to look going forward. There's no point telling a health professional these things when their sole purpose is to safe lives regardless of the cause. There's not much point blaming our Premiers either, they are doing exactly what we expect of them at this point. Comments like we're all sheep and the like aren't helping either, despite the understandable frustration. It's like sitting on the taxiway in a departure queue and a passenger yells out, oh FFS, how long do we have to wait, this taxiway is empty all the way to the runway, take it, lets go, bloody sheep.

Thanks mate. We are behind you.. just on the news now

Pretty much every news source is reporting it now. The basics is 4 extra weeks, but some rules changed ie tradies and construction can be back working. year 12 will be back to school

Rapid antigen testing will be made available

I don't think that's going to snuff it out, numbers are getting worse not better. Easing anything isn't the way to go if the goal is to eliminate community transmission. NSW is going to be isolated from the rest of us for a few months yet.

What the? Mrs Lockdown has had one to many claytons.

May as well lift the entire lockdown, it's pointless.

I think we’re just buying time to get vaccines in arms at this point.

There is no time, it's too late, that will take weeks, by then there will be thousands of infections, all that is going to do is increase the chances of a breakout strain.
Her choices are a full uncompromising lockdown, or, let it rip. This is not going to end well.

Maybe, but it’s weeks with a lockdown rather than weeks without one. It’s about minimizing damage at this point. I agree it doesn’t look good though.

Eventually though, we will have to examine the costs of the lockdown vs lives saved (or deaths postponed) - but we are a long way from that point.

I say again, she has to lock down hard. She has to bring in the Army to the ‘communities’ that come to Australia, but don’t ‘ understand’ except when applying to Centrelink . Its now or never.

The Army isn’t getting involved.

It’s not The Day of The Triffids…

Gee it has taken a while for that fact to sink in.
That has been the point from day one.

Problem is, with no Jobkeeper people have to work. People in these 'communities' as you put it SOPS (nice privileged-white-man-dog-whistle by the way), have to go out to work and earn a crust to feed their families. Either die of starvation or die of COVID, it's a conundrum that many all over the world have had to face hence why locking down hasn't stopped the spread of this thing. People have to get out to live.

Gladys is screaming for Jobkeeper to come back seeing as Sydney is looking at another four weeks of this. Is Canberra going to listen? SloMo certainly would look after his own backyard in Sydney if he could, but the optics of playing favourites would royally screw him politically (like he isn't screwed enough already).