PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific (https://www.pprune.org/australia-new-zealand-pacific-90/)
-   -   All borders to reopen. (https://www.pprune.org/australia-new-zealand-pacific/632861-all-borders-reopen.html)

Foxxster 27th May 2021 00:13


Originally Posted by blubak (Post 11052078)
More like the selfish public has stuffed up,people that think qr codes dont apply to them,people that think wearing a mask on public transport doesnt apply to them & people who think they are above any law they dont like.
These are facts,you are just assuming the contact tracing system is stuffed because it suits your political agenda.
How stuffed is scomos vaccination system,he prefers to make himself look like the fool he is with embarrasing photo opportunities.


from the March lockdown

Victoria’s highly touted new digitised contact-tracing system has been hindered by defects since it went live in January, with flaws so serious that tracers stopped calling close contacts during a crucial period just days before the state went into lockdown last month.

A Health Department source told The Sunday Age contact tracing calls to close contacts had to be paused for hours on February 8 after it was discovered tracers had been given the wrong list and were calling people linked to a cluster at a Thai restaurant in Black Rock in January, rather than those potentially exposed to coronavirus cases in active outbreaks.

numerous reports this morning of stuff ups. But keep deflecting to Scomo to suit your political agenda. How many did Dan kill.. over 800 wasn’t it.

as for the selfish public. It is up to the state government to enforce QR codes and mask wearing etc.

ruprecht 27th May 2021 00:23

I’m no fan of Daniel Andrews, but what the hell is this?


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11052097)
How many did Dan kill.. over 800 wasn’t it.


Foxxster 27th May 2021 00:27


Originally Posted by ruprecht (Post 11052100)
I’m no fan of Daniel Andrews, but what the hell is this?

oh, you missed the entire enquiry did you, you know where nobody was responsible. Nobody received those emails even though they actually did. Refusing federal help, or did they. Wasn’t me or him or her…. Lies upon lies by Andrews and others. …

don’t try and play cute

ozbiggles 27th May 2021 00:35


Originally Posted by minigundiplomat (Post 11052054)
It's ok to be a scared little bunny wabbit - we'll keep you safe from the scary killer virus.

Drinking isn't banned, driving fast isn't banned, just taxed, injecting rooms are ok in Brett Sutton land. Cancer kills many more people in Australia, but we havent banned sunbathing, smoking or red meat - you're argument is pure 'whataboutery'.

How about we all get vaccinated and open up, and those that are scared little bunny wabbits give up work and lock themselves away?

Really? Did you get your kindy kid to write that for you? Actually no, they would have been a bit better at understanding.

Where did I say banning any of those things or mention elimination? They are all risked manged just like the Covid19 response is.

But I'm not being fair. I should wait until your children are home to help you with your response.

ruprecht 27th May 2021 01:01


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11052101)
don’t try and play cute

Some of us are cute without trying…

Mate, I don’t live in Victoria, and even if I did I wouldn’t be voting for Andrews. Maintain the rage, though: you’re doing a cracking job.

SOPS 27th May 2021 01:30

WA border closed to Victoria as of 10.00 am WST today. Only people with special exemptions will be allowed in. Don’t know what happens if you are already in the air.

aviation_enthus 27th May 2021 03:42


Originally Posted by blubak (Post 11052078)
More like the selfish public has stuffed up,people that think qr codes dont apply to them,people that think wearing a mask on public transport doesnt apply to them & people who think they are above any law they dont like.
These are facts,you are just assuming the contact tracing system is stuffed because it suits your political agenda.
How stuffed is scomos vaccination system,he prefers to make himself look like the fool he is with embarrasing photo opportunities.

Facts??

How many inquiries have found the Victorian contact tracing system to be inadequate?

How many inquiries have found the Victorian hotel quarantine system inadequate?

QR code’s? Why has it taken Victoria 6 months longer than NSW to implement this?

If you want to talk about the facts, at least acknowledge the massive weaknesses reported in the Victorian Governments OWN reports!! That’s not a “political agenda”.

While we are on that topic, every single state has had an outbreak from hotel quarantine. It’s only Victoria that has failed the follow up contact tracing.

Scomo also has a lot to answer for with the slow vaccine rollout. The way it’s setup is to complicated and hard to access.

PoppaJo 27th May 2021 03:52

My son went to use a QR code at a place in Victoria yesterday and it was an ineligible version (non gov version) and wouldn’t let him do it. The business sort just shrugged it off and didn’t assist.

rattman 27th May 2021 04:20


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11052064)
yes seems like a 7 to 10 days lockdown. Up to 25 new cases. And meanwhile Victorians are racing to cross into NSW and potentially spread the virus to Sydney.

once again the grossly incompetent Victorian tracing systems has stuffed up …

Got a mate who is a truck driver crossed the VIC / SA border about the 2 hours after the press conferance. 1 1/2 to 2km queue of caravans

jrfsp 27th May 2021 04:39


Originally Posted by blubak (Post 11052078)
More like the selfish public has stuffed up,people that think qr codes dont apply to them,people that think wearing a mask on public transport doesnt apply to them & people who think they are above any law they dont like.
These are facts,you are just assuming the contact tracing system is stuffed because it suits your political agenda.
How stuffed is scomos vaccination system,he prefers to make himself look like the fool he is with embarrasing photo opportunities.

I mean the stuff up is back on HQ, this is the 17th leak in 6 months.....

Ladloy 27th May 2021 04:53


Originally Posted by jrfsp (Post 11052158)
I mean the stuff up is back on HQ, this is the 17th leak in 6 months.....

1 in every 200th HQ case leaks into the community.

dysslexicgod 27th May 2021 05:29

Been in TAS and SA in the last few weeks. Both have respectable contact tracing systems. You cant get out of the arrival hall in Hobart without "checking in", SA requires pre approval from Police and a border check. Both are serious about QR codes everywhere to the point where retailers wont serve you unless you have checked in.

Victoria? La! La! La! No border checks and a broken and unenforced QR system. Dan Andrews is an idiot.

Suggestion now is that seven days won't be enough.

jrfsp 27th May 2021 05:56

And we're about to repatriate people from India back into HQ....what could possibly go wrong.

Dannyboy39 27th May 2021 06:14


Originally Posted by dysslexicgod (Post 11052048)
Indications are that Victoria goes into lockdown shortly.

Is this not indicating that quarantines and travel restrictions don’t actually work and only slows it down? Designing it to buy time to get people vaccinated and get an adequate surveillance system in place.

ScepticalOptomist 27th May 2021 08:13

Vaccinate, Vaccinate, Vaccinate.

Its not that hard a concept, yet some people here in Oz are borderline simpletons.

Foxxster 27th May 2021 08:23


Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist (Post 11052240)
Vaccinate, Vaccinate, Vaccinate.

Its not that hard a concept, yet some people here in Oz are borderline simpletons.

which one.

because I hope you aren’t talking about AstraZeneca. If so better have a stern word to the chook in Qld. She wants the Pfizer. So you can’t blame the general populace if our dear leaders, well at least one and her health chief aren’t prepared to get it.

ScepticalOptomist 27th May 2021 08:27


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11052248)
which one.

because I hope you aren’t talking about AstraZeneca. If so better have a stern word to the chook in Qld. She wants the Pfizer. So you can’t blame the general populace if our dear leaders, well at least one and her health chief aren’t prepared to get it.

The chook and her chihuahua are simpletons. Anyone who reckons they’re anything other than a couple of clowns also falls into the same category!

KRviator 27th May 2021 08:35


Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist (Post 11052240)
Vaccinate, Vaccinate, Vaccinate.

Its not that hard a concept, yet some people here in Oz are borderline simpletons.

Concept? No. But getting the vaccination if you want it? That appears to be the hard part...But who care's, the politicians still get their 15% superannuation & pensions and can work from home...

Troo believer 27th May 2021 09:09


Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist (Post 11052251)
The chook and her chihuahua are simpletons. Anyone who reckons they’re anything other than a couple of clowns also falls into the same category!

Correct. They don’t understand science nor statistics. Vaccination IS the only way out. Otherwise you are just pissing into the wind. Sorry Ladies.

jrfsp 27th May 2021 10:21


Originally Posted by Troo believer (Post 11052288)
Correct. They don’t understand science nor statistics. Vaccination IS the only way out. Otherwise you are just pissing into the wind. Sorry Ladies.

While i completely agree, news out of the UK shows 1 in 10 in hospital with covid have been fully vaccinated. "The data that we have is that in the hotspot areas around one in 10 of those in hospital are people who have had both jabs. "The fact that 90% are people who have not yet been double vaccinated gives us a high degree of confidence that the vaccine is highly effective but it also shows - the fact there's 10% who have been double vaccinated - that it isn't 100% effective."
We will need to accept a number of deaths, while this will be no different to other diseases it will be a difficult sell for the government when unlike the rest of the world we are not used to it. Don't expect to open the border until after the election.


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:43.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.