Darwin falling over now. 3 days from 1pm. Gunner not guaranteeing that’s the end point either.

The Pfizer vaccine has caused some heart issues in Israel. In young people. Waiting for that to get into the mainstream media like the AstraZeneca bloodclots. Yes the incidence is small for the heart issues but so is the blood clots incidence.

Well Scotty better step up and announce a JK 3.0 now. NSW is blocked in all states WA will announce NT blocked in next few minutes leaving little for tourism to survive here.

It’s been announced already. Payments of $500 (more than 20 hours per week) or $325 a week (less than 20 hours) if you have less than $10K of ‘liquid assets’ and can’t work. It was announced when Victoria went into lockdown last month. Only applies I think after the first week.

geez talk about splitting hairs..okay you win..the vaccines contain the genetic code that enables our cells to produce the spike protein

Spoke too soon.

WA- restrictions just now introduced case discovered and active in the community for last week.

SA press conference at 3.

It won’t be long until Melbourne to Mildura is the nations number 1 route!

Go Tassie!

This is the worst situation since the national lockdown last year. Aviation will basically be at a stand still for a month at least.

Wheres Slowmo? Too occupied on ancestry.com

And keep going, have a look at the difference between spike protein produced through vaccination versus infection, there are significant differences.

This virus isn’t going anywhere, it will circulate the globe forever. Elimination is not possible. At some point you will be exposed to the virus and the only difference will be whether you have been vaccinated or not. To me, the risk of side effects from the vaccine far outweighs the risks to health from being exposed unvaccinated.

The spike protein in the vaccine doesn’t remain in the cell that produces it but breaks off and circulates so it’s potentially worse

I sincerely hope you do not hold an ATPL.
If you do, please go and burn it- I don't want to see you operating heavy machinery with such a lack of cognitive skill.

I think most people can sense you’re full of it, but if anyone wants a scientific debunking of that rubbish:

‘Toxic’ spike protein claims misinterpret vaccine study

Now stop posting that nonsense, there’s more serious and relevant issues that should be discussed on this thread than that tripe.

Gladys is into him now about the lack of vaccinations available. How long is he going to hide for.
With her venting her frustration now its time he forgets about his photo opportunities & sorts this mess out..

While much has been spoken about the increased communicability of some of the latest variants, I have not heard any of the CHOs mention to what extent the reported positive cases are suffering in terms of health outcomes or treatment response.
I am not of course expecting them to give details of individual cases but in the early days of the pandemic in Europe, we saw graphic footage of people literally gasping their last breaths and doctors being able to do little about it.
So for the current crop of positive cases in Australia, how sick in general are these people? Are the majority showing nothing worse than what would have put them on sick leave from work for a few days 2 years ago? Or are they all in hospital under constant attention with life-threatening symptoms?
I ask the question because I genuinely have not heard or read of what has happened to the vast majority who were positive over the past few months.
Also the seeming lack of people who have or are aware they have debilitating symptoms even though they have been in contact with these positive cases does not seem to add up. (I don't mean that in a conspiratorial manner - just an observation)
Can anybody enlighten me??

And all have recovered after some mild symptoms.

then you’re an idiot.

I have the same question in mind, I did some online search as well can’t find any useful information. There are some new cases in south China, the medical experts in an interview mentioned only a few cases needed to be sent to ICU and all getting better. It seems the variant is more contagious but less lethal, just the government only want to mention the contagious part but ignore the other part. Correct me if anyone has more information.

300 having to be hospitalised. I wouldn’t call that mild symptoms. You don’t get admitted to hospital for mild symptoms. And fully recovered. We won’t know the full impact until they die. It might take a few years off their lives ..who knows.

this relates to 7 boys in the US, which are in addition to the hundreds in Israel

Two to six days in hospital..6 days sounds quite serious. Even two days now is a lot. Now doing pretty well. Wow that sounds encouraging. Not fully recovered…. And only likely heart changes were temporary. But we don’t really know…,

The boys, aged 14 to 19, received Pfizer shots in April or May and developed chest pain within a few days. Heart imaging tests showed a type of heart muscle inflammation called myocarditis.

None were critically ill. All were healthy enough to be sent home after two to six days in the hospital and are doing “doing pretty well,” said Dr. Preeti Jaggi, an Emory University infectious disease specialist who co-authored the report.

She said more follow-up is needed to determine how the seven fare but that it’s likely the heart changes were temporary.

My bad writing, I mean I’d much rather take the risk of side effects from vaccine than the risk to health of COVID.

We are nearly at a standstill folks. McGowan now putting up the border.

Won’t be much left by tomorrow it seems. Perhaps Melbourne and Adelaide to Tasmania and that’s it. Brisbane to Cairns and below. Melbourne to Mildura.

Alan is going to need some more cash fairly soon.

I’d say it’d be John S at this point in time.....

Having said that I watched the presser, I thought McG was going to throw up a full hard border to everywhere so the fact he’s keeping it in proportion is a more welcome sign than 2020, I reckon the situation in all states bar NSW doesn’t look too concerning at the moment, I’d just say it’s up to Gladys to get NSW’s act together. I would say around a month of disruption out of this.

Also there was an important statement, despite some doom mongers saying this will go on forever, he did say in the presser that once a “large majority” is vaccinated then they can avoid lockdowns/restrictions.

Just need to ignore the anti-vaxxers

and the bed wetting continues...

masks needed while walking into Suncorp but you can take them off once you sit down 🤦‍♂️

Because you can’t catch Covid while sitting down and cheering

If I hear "Its been based on health advise" by one of our politicians once more I am gona puke !!!

Better get the vomit bag because this crap will be repeated for the next few years lol.

This is about to explode, I’m not a doctor but blind Freddy says it’s pretty obvious, Adelaide is the last fortress but they will be infiltrated in the next few days. When every state has outbreaks should they close to each other? This pathetic goal of zero cases is like mopping a floor while muddy shoed kids keep running over it. What is the endgame? What is the exit strategy? Oh yeah that’s Scomo, a completely useless idiot that has no idea, only got the job by stabbing a colleague in the back.

Yes. This Indian variant seems to have spattered wider than a vindaloo squirt.

ScoMo is dropping the ball on so many issues unless he starts to reform immediately by becoming proactive rather than reactive he will loose the next election - and deservedly so unless he gets his **** together.
It's becoming less cynical to suggest his focus is solely on the timing of the next election, mundane issues such as Covid of no pressing importance....apparently.

Gladys should have gone early on lockdown.

Well until they make a gluten free , vegan , almond milk vaccine . One that is approved by every holistic medical organisation on the planet oh , better be low calorie also . We just have to get used to closed borders at short notice .

It’s cold and flu season..lockdowns and masking have achieved no noticeable success in stopping the spread anywhere in the world. The virus spreads indoors mostly..quarantine facilities are leaky everywhere they’re in use. Every country gets its turn

Funny how there has been very little influenza in NZ over the past 12 months

Here,here.
The nay sayers can put any anti vax spin out there but 1 wonders if they have also refused all medication throughout their life on the basis of being developed too quickly or not knowing side effects.
Every script box you get from the chemist has possible side effects listed but i dont see protests & media hype about them.

Yes she should but as you know many will say the opposite.
Governments are dammed if they do & dammed if they dont.

Fair comment but in your opinion,what advice should be used?
I am not saying i disagree with you but interested to hear your thoughts.

I wish the gov would stop comparing us to the UK, 18,000 cases yesterday I can’t recall the deaths but well under 100. Those are pretty good odds to me given their size.

11 deaths yesterday in the Uk although they’re a lagging indicator.
start on June they were approx 6,000 cases a day

The UK also has no idea how many people are in the country which makes calculating herd immunity hard. They originally thought they had 3.9m EU citizens permanently residing in the country only to find its closer to 6m.

Amongst the communities being hit by the delta variant are huge swathes of people not on any database and probably not getting jabbed in case they appear on the immigration radar.

flu is imported. Close international borders, no flu.

that’s the vaccine in action and a health care system that has now learnt a lot about COVID👍👍

Someone above already provided some info around this but in the latest presser it was advised that 30 people attended the West Hoxton birthday party. 24 that were infected were not vaccinated. 5 were health workers who were fully vaccinated and they did not test positive. 1 more is a aged care worker who received their first dose and has also not contracted it.