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DirectAnywhere 26th Jun 2021 03:33

2nd NSW press conference just announced today for 2pm. Here comes the city wide lockdown. Was quicker than I thought.

cloudsurfng 26th Jun 2021 03:41

And the rest of Australia is about to f&$led by QLD and their quarantine leak to the NT

Foxxster 26th Jun 2021 03:58


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11068452)
2nd NSW press conference just announced today for 2pm. Here comes the city wide lockdown. Was quicker than I thought.

yes I have the radio on, they will be taking it live I think.

wonder for how long, I guess a week… stay tuned.

Foxxster 26th Jun 2021 04:02


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11068452)
2nd NSW press conference just announced today for 2pm. Here comes the city wide lockdown. Was quicker than I thought.


from the premier …

from 6pm all Sydney, central coast, blue mountains and Wollongong lock down until Friday 2 July but could extend until 9 July if not under control.

corrected

ok bit confused now. This report is saying it is until Friday 9 July ,

Greater Sydney, the Blue Mountains, Central Coast and Wollongong will enter a lockdown from 6:00pm today until 11.59pm on Friday July 9.

Earlier today, NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian flagged the current lockdown, which only applies to four areas of Sydney, would have to be expanded in response to a growing COVID-19 outbreak.

The only reasons people in those areas can leave home are:

Shopping for food or other essential goods and services

Medical care or compassionate needs (including to get a COVID-19 vaccine)

Exercise outdoors in groups of 10 or fewer

Essential work, or education, where you cannot work or study from home

Ms Berejikian said weddings would be permitted to take place today and tomorrow on compassionate grounds.

However, from Monday they would not be allowed until at least July 9.

Funerals will be permitted with a maximum 100 guests (subject to the four-square-metre rule) for the duration of the lockdown.

Ms Berejiklian said there was "no point" only locking down for a few days as it wouldn't allow contact tracers to stay ahead of the virus.

"The best health advice today is that it should be for two weeks, but if there is any massive improvement ahead of that time, of course, we'll evaluate that," she said.

jrfsp 26th Jun 2021 04:17

Restrictions for whole of NSW. Lockdown for Sydney. I bet scomo wont be heard from in the next 2 weeks.

PoppaJo 26th Jun 2021 04:31

Seems a bit disorganised and this Heath Minister comes across as an absolute tool. Weddings good to go tonight and tomorrow folks, keep seeding that virus. Large groups can gather outdoors. Bondi will be packed.

Melbourne in and out in 3 weeks. Border is back open. Restrictions set out very clearly. Tabled and easily available for all to view and understand. People know what they can and can’t do. The Minister here could not even define what classes essential shopping? What did he say, the general public can decide what is essential?

Fools.


jrfsp 26th Jun 2021 04:33

The press conference reminds me of VIC last year. - reactive, nervous and certainly not in control

dr dre 26th Jun 2021 06:22

And to top it all off a worker at Tanami mine has tested positive, with almost 1000 contacts probably scattered in every corner of the country......

dr dre 26th Jun 2021 06:44

But I’ll follow that up with some brighter news. A far more enlightened and intelligent nation to our north has announced their post vaccination plan, and it’s a good one:


"It has been 18 months since the pandemic started, and our people are battle-weary. All are asking: When and how will the pandemic end?" said the ministers.

"The bad news is that COVID-19 may never go away. The good news is that it is possible to live normally with it in our midst." they said.

Singapore has been taking steps to prepare for COVID-19 becoming endemic, and has ramped up its vaccination drive, amid the battle to bring down the spike in cases.

Vaccination already appears to be effective in reducing the rates of infection and transmission. Most fully vaccinated people show mild or no symptoms even if they contract the disease.

By early next month, two-thirds of the population in Singapore will have received at least one jab of the two-jab vaccines, said the ministers.

"Our next milestone will be to have at least two-thirds of our population fully vaccinated with two doses around National Day (9 August), supply permitting. We are working to bring forward the delivery of vaccines and to speed up the process," they said.

In time, people with COVID-19 will be allowed to recover at home, so there will be less concern about the healthcare system being stressed. Their close contacts can buy test kits from pharmacies to test themselves, they said.

In fact, testing will no longer be a tool for ring-fencing and quarantining people, but will be used more for screening those who want to enter office buildings, malls and schools, among other places, according to the report.

The daily updates on infection numbers will also shift to focus on outcomes, such as how many patients fall very sick and end up needing intensive care, the same way the flu is monitored. Slowly, safe management rules can be eased, and large gatherings will once again be allowed, such as at the National Day Parade or New Year's Eve countdown, it said.

Businesses will also not have to fear disruptions from lockdowns, it added.

Eventually, people will be able to travel again, with vaccination certificates in hand, to countries that have also controlled the virus and turned it into an endemic norm. They may even be exempted from quarantine with a negative test upon arrival.

"Finally, whether we can live with COVID-19 depends also on Singaporeans' acceptance that COVID-19 will be endemic and our collective behaviour... If all of us shoulder the burden together - workers keeping their colleagues safe by staying at home when ill, and employers not faulting them - our society will be so much safer," the ministers said.

"Science and human ingenuity will eventually prevail over COVID-19. Cohesion and social consciousness will get us there faster. We must all do our part," they said.
Singapore plans out transition to new normal life with Covid-19 pandemic

This is where mass vaccination gets you. If Australia had been truly “at the front of the queue” we could have had this announcement this week too. In conjunction with a society mature enough to act responsibly.

But at least one nation has blazed a trail to start a return to normal, and others can just copy them within time.

SHVC 26th Jun 2021 07:22

Australians are the biggest idiots in the world tho. They don’t want the vaccination rather “wait and see”. It our own fault ppl.

blubak 26th Jun 2021 08:33


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11068426)
Or, how about this for an idea, everyone get off their ass get vaccinated. If you look at the data Astra Zeneca is fine the gov just does not want to put their name to it now. But even before said issues with AZ Australians were carrying on like spastics and would rather think it’s better smoking a packet of ciggies and putting what ever else in to their body was perfectly fine but a medically certified drug it’s like no way I’m not putting that into me. We are as a nation some of the biggest idiots in the world and I’m saying that as an Aussie.

It’s time Sco Mo grew a set and started laying down some heavy ultimatums and leading us out of this abmismal mess that seems to keep continuing without an end in sight. Where else in the world are purpose built quarantine camps being constructed? No where but here the idiots we are, our cash be better spent on building new medical facility that could churn out vaccines quickly and whilst it’s being built train and certify every nurse and pharmacist to give it so a doctor does not need to be at every clinic.

Perfect!!
Yes,scomo needs to man up & stop pussy footing around,spend some money wisely & get more vaccine doses here ASAP,give up wasting time getting photos taken with anyone that makes himself look important.
And for those who wont get vaccinated,take a long hard look at yourselves & stop being so selfish.

jrfsp 26th Jun 2021 09:25

Apparently NZ is now pausing the whole trans Tasman bubble

Angle of Attack 26th Jun 2021 09:54

Why would’nt they? This complete disaster has been brought on by Scomo, what an incompetent fool.
Its not a race! Goddam it is a race, Australia has been left as a leper while everyone else opens up.
15 months and nothing has changed, what an embarrassing situation we are in.

Angle of Attack 26th Jun 2021 10:04

Meanwhile we are desperately trying to mop the floor while kids with muddy shoes run continuously over it. What the hell are we trying to achieve? Zero cases? While hotel quarantine is current leaking at 2 cases a week? I have no fing idea what we are trying to achieve, Get a grip, we need an exit strategy while we lockdown with no one in hospital from this at the moment.

jrfsp 26th Jun 2021 10:10


Originally Posted by Angle of Attack (Post 11068590)
Meanwhile we are desperately trying to mop the floor while kids with muddy shoes run continuously over it. What the hell are we trying to achieve? Zero cases? While hotel quarantine is current leaking at 2 cases a week? I have no fing idea what we are trying to achieve, Get a grip, we need an exit strategy while we lockdown with no one in hospital from this at the moment.

there are people in hospital with covid in NSW - they didn’t have details available as to numbers or condition at the press conf

stickshaken 26th Jun 2021 10:20


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11068533)
Australians are the biggest idiots in the world tho. They don’t want the vaccination rather “wait and see”. It our own fault ppl.

Can’t believe dickheads like you think,
this experimental vaccine is a vaccine.
Vaccines take many many years to prove there worth over time, that there are NO long term risks or life long side effects.

But this so called vaccine doesn’t work anyway.

Ladloy 26th Jun 2021 11:18


Originally Posted by stickshaken (Post 11068603)
Can’t believe dickheads like you think,
this experimental vaccine is a vaccine.
Vaccines take many many years to prove there worth over time, that there are NO long term risks or life long side effects.

But this so called vaccine doesn’t work anyway.

we already know that getting covid has long lasting effects to some people. Shortness of breaath, brain fog, heart and lung issues, permanent loss of taste and smell. Even if you take the line that it's experimental, which is incorrect, it's the lesser of the evils.

Angle of Attack 26th Jun 2021 11:24

OK so there are a few people in hospital with COVID, they may have just been put in there as a precaution, but I guess that’s a big deal considering there are around 10000 people hospitalised in Australia at any one time. We have become a nation of Wimps, that avoid any risk at all, it’s pathetic.

Anti Skid On 26th Jun 2021 11:50


Originally Posted by Angle of Attack (Post 11068628)
OK so there are a few people in hospital with COVID, they may have just been put in there as a precaution, but I guess that’s a big deal considering there are around 10000 people hospitalised in Australia at any one time. We have become a nation of Wimps, that avoid any risk at all, it’s pathetic.

Nothing like being a 'wimp'. This isn't like sending your kids to chickenpox party, this is a disease that kills, that messes up all your health services, costs a lot of money (more than not having it running rife) and destroys your economy.

Those few people in the hospital with COVID are there to stop others ending up there too, not very wimpish being on a ventilator.

regional_flyer 26th Jun 2021 11:57


Originally Posted by stickshaken (Post 11068603)
Vaccines take many many years to prove there worth over time, that there are NO long term risks or life long side effects.

I suggest you look up MRNA vaccines, which will explain to you why they were capable of producing the covid vaccinations so quickly, and why there is such confidence in their effectiveness (but we all know that you won't). Look up the difference between there/their/they're at the same time.

No Idea Either 26th Jun 2021 12:04

AoA

i just don’t understand your logic. If the disease runs rampant and the hospitals fill up with COVID patients, what happens to the 10,000 normal every day patients. Do they all get better whilst COVID runs its course, or do they die due to lack of resources. Look at Brazil, look at India and look at the US and Italy earlier on. People dying everywhere due to a lack of beds, 1000’s per day, remember. Or is it all staged fake news (to paraphrase an idiot)??????

turbantime 26th Jun 2021 12:17


Originally Posted by stickshaken (Post 11068603)
But this so called vaccine doesn’t work anyway.

Do explain…

mattyj 26th Jun 2021 13:37

Oh they work alright..they work just fine..doing exactly what they’re designed to do..you just take your medicine like a good boy and shush ya mouth!

dr dre 26th Jun 2021 14:00


Originally Posted by mattyj (Post 11068685)
Oh they work alright..they work just fine..doing exactly what they’re designed to do..you just take your medicine like a good boy and shush ya mouth!

The ironic thing is if the Australian public took that sarcastic comment seriously we’d be in a position similar to Singapore now, well on the way out of this pandemic.

Instead a hesitant public took your nonsense comments seriously and here we are.....

dr dre 26th Jun 2021 14:05


Originally Posted by turbantime (Post 11068653)
Do explain…

They never ever will. Or they’ll post a link to a rubbish anti-vax website where “the truth” about vaccines will be “exposed” alongside articles about chemtrails, QAnon and 5G.

Anti-vaxxers posting here are just trolls, getting a kick out of winding people up who are very down at the moment.

SOPS 26th Jun 2021 14:35

I really worry about these people who think the vaccine does not work. I wait to see any real proof. (I’m sure there is not any).

jrfsp 26th Jun 2021 14:50

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-...tive/100247100

the good news keeps coming

SHVC 26th Jun 2021 21:35


Originally Posted by stickshaken (Post 11068603)
Can’t believe dickheads like you think,
this experimental vaccine is a vaccine.
Vaccines take many many years to prove there worth over time, that there are NO long term risks or life long side effects.

But this so called vaccine doesn’t work anyway.

Experimental???? Please provide your insight. As far as I’m aware all the vaccines in use in Australia have TGA approval. The reason we are in this mess is people like you thinking the vaccine has to be in development for for many yrs to be any good, news flash pal half of this vaccine was already developed and because it had the worlds money thrown at it it was able to be devolved in 12 months.

I hope you’re not one of the D!ckheads complaining about lockdowns, stand downs, loosing your job, border closure, loosing family a friend or a Neighbour to suicide because of this. You could easily get vaccinated and help get this country going again.

layman 26th Jun 2021 22:55

Heard on radio this morning …

Family party at Hoxton Park:
* 5 who were fully vaccinated did not contact COVID
* 5 of the 10 others contracted COVID.

Very small case study but a good indicator why ‘everyone’ needs to get a vaccination.

Being vaccinated cerianly seems to reduce the risk.

blubak 26th Jun 2021 22:58


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11068886)
Experimental???? Please provide your insight. As far as I’m aware all the vaccines in use in Australia have TGA approval. The reason we are in this mess is people like you thinking the vaccine has to be in development for for many yrs to be any good, news flash pal half of this vaccine was already developed and because it had the worlds money thrown at it it was able to be devolved in 12 months.

I hope you’re not one of the D!ckheads complaining about lockdowns, stand downs, loosing your job, border closure, loosing family a friend or a Neighbour to suicide because of this. You could easily get vaccinated and help get this country going again.

It would be interesting to find out what the qualifications are of these people who constantly question the development & effectiveness of the vaccine & also many other things such as the wearing of face masks etc.
Talking about dickheads complaining,i was at a local footy match yesterday & behind me were 2 women telling everyone around them how their business was so badly affected by lockdown & how they got no govt assistance yet in the next breath 1 of them said how ridiculous it was having to wear a mask & no one was going to make her wear 1 & then the other woman told me she wouldnt be getting the jab as it was her right not to.
Idiots like these 2 is what we are up against.

ruprecht 26th Jun 2021 23:04


Originally Posted by layman (Post 11068914)
Heard on radio this morning …

Family party at Hoxton Park:
* 5 who were fully vaccinated did not contact COVID
* 5 of the 10 others contracted COVID.

Very small case study but a good indicator why ‘everyone’ needs to get a vaccination.

Being vaccinated cerianly seems to reduce the risk.

Plus their 5G reception is excellent.

I’m growing weary of the vaccination ‘debate’ in this country. Maybe we need a new government slogan:

”Get vaccinated, you f*cking retard”

Foxxster 26th Jun 2021 23:05

I really don’t know why we are having this Sydney wide and even wider, central coast, blue mountains and Wollongong lockdown. According to some demographer people in Sydney don’t move outside their immediate area because of rivers and harbours etc. Maybe the health experts should have spoken to him first and we could have avoided all this.

hotnhigh 26th Jun 2021 23:38

https://www.travelpulse.com/news/des...trictions.html
https://www.cntraveler.com/story/us-...t-quarantining

Stick with it Australia your plan is going well. You should be able travel again in 2056.

FFS, people need to wake up and research wtf is happening outside the political/media cocoon we now find ourselves in.

SHVC 26th Jun 2021 23:40

That does make sense, however the greater issue is the other states closing off to SY and like SA and WA to the whole state. Wish Sco Mo would do an election now he has lost my vote the race he said wasn’t a race was actually a race and he lost big time.

ruprecht 27th Jun 2021 00:05


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11068935)
That does make sense, however the greater issue is the other states closing off to SY and like SA and WA to the whole state. Wish Sco Mo would do an election now he has lost my vote the race he said wasn’t a race was actually a race and he lost big time.

The announcement of the election date will coincide with the extra Pfizer vaccines arriving later this year, and the narrative will be how “we have kept Australia safe”, and now “it’s time to consider opening up”. The ALP will not be able to argue against this because they will be painted as either “killing grandma”, or “killing business”.

mattyj 27th Jun 2021 01:04

It’s pretty simple; the spike protein in the virus causes much of the ill effects of the virus..the spike protein is also in all the mRNA vaccines. Take them if you feel you should, your body your choice. There’s a definite risk reward calculation that has age and illnesses in the formula.

the data I’m reading is that young men are definitely not advised to get one of the mRNA vaccines.

-41 27th Jun 2021 01:13


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11068886)
Experimental???? Please provide your insight. As far as I’m aware all the vaccines in use in Australia have TGA approval. The reason we are in this mess is people like you thinking the vaccine has to be in development for for many yrs to be any good, news flash pal half of this vaccine was already developed and because it had the worlds money thrown at it it was able to be devolved in 12 months.

I hope you’re not one of the D!ckheads complaining about lockdowns, stand downs, loosing your job, border closure, loosing family a friend or a Neighbour to suicide because of this. You could easily get vaccinated and help get this country going again.

Did you also believe the “we just need 14 days to flatten then curve” narrative, or the we only collect sign in data for public health contact tracing and all records are deleted after 28days, not shared with amazon, google or law enforcement.

As long as this hysterical response continues from public health experts 100% vaccinated population or not the tyrannical restrictions will remain.
the current vaccine treatment is for a variant that no longer exists.

SHVC 27th Jun 2021 01:34

No I did not and To be honest I’ll admit, I’m all for let it go and take its course, 14 days these other BS 3 hard quick sharp snap lockdowns or what ever they want to call them is crap. From start till now the states and feds could have built easily almost 50 hospitals as major ICU centers trained 1000s of staff even could pay these staff 20% above award wage to attract them and we would still be financially better off.

We would be where most of the world are now, but, no we are and will have for yrs to come have constantly closing internal borders treating each other like criminals in our own country whilst the world will most definitely have moved on. Time ppl realized what we are seeing now will continue well past 2023 maybe we’ll beyond 2024, you’re delusional if you think you’re back at work in next few yrs as an international pilot.

As pilots we should be deeply concerned because QF reserves will run out soon enough when their stake holders decide it’s pushing sh!t up a bill because Australia can’t get their act together. I will be sureprised Australia has any kind of international carrier wether QF, JQ or VA.

Potsie Weber 27th Jun 2021 01:42


Originally Posted by mattyj (Post 11068949)
It’s pretty simple; the spike protein in the virus causes much of the ill effects of the virus..the spike protein is also in all the mRNA vaccines. Take them if you feel you should, your body your choice. There’s a definite risk reward calculation that has age and illnesses in the formula.

the data I’m reading is that young men are definitely not advised to get one of the mRNA vaccines.

Wrong! There is no spike protein in the vaccines.

-41 27th Jun 2021 01:48

SHVC Agreed. I’d rather see the frustration directed to the inept performance of the health experts and politicians. These lockdowns and restrictions will never cease as the virus continues to mutate. Apportioning blame then placing the spotlight on a individual driver for spreading a virus whilst transporting aircrew Is total bull****.


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