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601 29th Jan 2021 04:04


4. Put the liberal government in a position where the state that unexpectedly won them the last election may hit 20% unemployment in the lead up to an election unless you keep the money printers going..
ScoMo should tell her to fund JobKeeper after March, let her stew for a while and then , just before the Fed election, announce that Qld is broke and that the Feds will pickup the bill.

Ladloy 29th Jan 2021 19:10

This thread reads like a QAnon thread. You've all lost the plot.

Ragnor 29th Jan 2021 20:40


Originally Posted by Ladloy (Post 10979018)
This thread reads like a QAnon thread. You've all lost the plot.


I don't want my tax dollars funding another premier draconian measures and to support business that suffered with the border closures that were not necessary at certain times and were closed longer than needed. Yes we have lost the plot.

NSW tourist business are doing fine thats because it was appropriately managed, something Queen P can not understand.

rattman 29th Jan 2021 22:45


Originally Posted by Ladloy (Post 10979018)
This thread reads like a QAnon thread. You've all lost the plot.

They never had a plot to start with to lose

Ascend Charlie 30th Jan 2021 05:05

Palabtfsplk's favourite saying was: "I won't be bullied by any of those Liberal governments!" when they were gently urging her to open up. Idiot.

Foxxster 30th Jan 2021 05:25


Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie (Post 10979300)
Palabtfsplk's favourite saying was: "I won't be bullied by any of those Liberal governments!" when they were gently urging her to open up. Idiot.

The problem for the Queensland Labor Govt headed by the chuck is they are broke. Years of profligate spending has meant their state debt..

Queensland's debt levels will balloon to almost $130 billion within four years, ...In September's fiscal economic update for the 2020-21 financial year, the Government predicted the state's debt would reach almost $102 billion by mid next year.

Today, Mr Dick revealed Queensland's total gross debt was now forecast to hit $122.668 billion by 2022-23, and about $130 billion by 2023-24.


So with only about 5 million people, Queenslanders have a state debt that is per capita almost equal to the current federal debt, so they have federal debt times two. Or to put it more simply, around $26,000 per person of state debt. So a family of 4 has over $100,000 of state debt ....and its increasing year by year and Labor has no ability even in good times to reverse it.

The chuck should STFU and stump up some state money that the morons who voted for her can pay back via state charges. They can then suffer the consequences of their stupid actions. But then that is not what the left side of politics is all about. Someone else is always meant to pay.

as for anyone voicing an opinion that is not of the left being labeled QAnon. Seriously is that the latest label the idiot lefties are going to use along with any “ist” like their favourite racist or “phobe”. Such labels are used by morons who have no valid argument as a weapon to silence any dissenting opinions from their so called correct far left view. Which ironically has the hallmarks of fascist regimes.

John Eacott 30th Jan 2021 06:44


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10978392)
Queen P was on the tube this morning trying to out more pressure on the Federal Government Sco Mo has a thin line to walk on here with an election at the end of the yr. Queensland Ppl know she had decimated tourism with her knee jerk un educated over reactions to borders. Now Sco Mo will have to clean up her mess.

What election at the end of this year? Next Federal election can be any time up to 2023.

I'm riding down to Mexico tomorrow (another Border Pass needed, but I've lived with them for the past 9 months in our Border Bubble) and will be ready to turn around the moment the inevitable reinstatement of the Borders is instigated by the Princess. I thought Dan was bad enough but our Premier is trying to emulate his Command and Control :ugh:

SOPS 30th Jan 2021 07:08

Mark has opened the border to QLD and Victoria. He has said that at the slightest hint of an outbreak they will shut again..and I quote..”or worse.” NSW has to wait a bit longer.

WingNut60 30th Jan 2021 07:58


Originally Posted by John Eacott (Post 10979311)
What election at the end of this year? Next Federal election can be any time up to 2023.

Not quite correct. Next Fed election must occur on or before 21 May 2022 if for both houses, otherwise 03 September.
Earliest date is 07 Aug 21.

WingNut60 30th Jan 2021 08:00


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 10979319)
Mark has opened the border to QLD and Victoria. He has said that at the slightest hint of an outbreak they will shut again..and I quote..”or worse.” NSW has to wait a bit longer.

Can you give us a source for that "quote"?

Ragnor 30th Jan 2021 08:49

McGoose does not want to open to NSW it’s political for him he is making it way to obvious. After watching that press conference of him trying to rip into Gladys was very laughable. It’s a shame tho, you would think Queen P desperate and very desperate plea it was to government for her poor tourism industry that she ruined herself that the Western Australian public would see right through McGoose BS, but, no they will vote the village idiot in again.

2023 latest for an election. Crikey where are you living mate.

dr dre 30th Jan 2021 09:06


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10979376)
the Western Australian public would see right through McGoose BS, but, no they will vote the village idiot in again.

You do realise the kid running the WA Liberal party atm fully supports and endorses the state’s border policy?

Ragnor 30th Jan 2021 09:16

I do, only because the public are brain washed in believing McGoose policy and realize they can’t change their opinion so close to an election.

Ladloy 30th Jan 2021 09:17


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 10979303)
The problem for the Queensland Labor Govt headed by the chuck is they are broke. Years of profligate spending has meant their state debt..

Queensland's debt levels will balloon to almost $130 billion within four years, ...In September's fiscal economic update for the 2020-21 financial year, the Government predicted the state's debt would reach almost $102 billion by mid next year.

Today, Mr Dick revealed Queensland's total gross debt was now forecast to hit $122.668 billion by 2022-23, and about $130 billion by 2023-24.


So with only about 5 million people, Queenslanders have a state debt that is per capita almost equal to the current federal debt, so they have federal debt times two. Or to put it more simply, around $26,000 per person of state debt. So a family of 4 has over $100,000 of state debt ....and its increasing year by year and Labor has no ability even in good times to reverse it.

The chuck should STFU and stump up some state money that the morons who voted for her can pay back via state charges. They can then suffer the consequences of their stupid actions. But then that is not what the left side of politics is all about. Someone else is always meant to pay.

as for anyone voicing an opinion that is not of the left being labeled QAnon. Seriously is that the latest label the idiot lefties are going to use along with any “ist” like their favourite racist or “phobe”. Such labels are used by morons who have no valid argument as a weapon to silence any dissenting opinions from their so called correct far left view. Which ironically has the hallmarks of fascist regimes.

The conspiracy theories on this thread are insane, not to do with left or right wing ideologies. That being said, perhaps only ACT would be close to a left wing government. The rest sit in the right wing authorative quadrant.

Dannyboy39 30th Jan 2021 11:53

So this morning I’ve just booked (with a free 48 hour cancellation of course) hotels in Brisbane and Adelaide between 6-21 December coming from England for the Ashes tests which are due to held on this date - cost comes to around 1200 GBP which is very reasonable. The first test expected to start on 8 Dec however Cricket Australia are having to put into the schedule the possibility of a 14 day quarantine again.

Not booked flights as of yet but BA are offering vouchers up until Easter 2023 if you don’t want to travel, but expected to cost 900 GBP all in.

Some mighty deals out there and I just hope that the Aussies come to their senses by that time. More than happy to significantly contribute to the economy that is the wonderful country that is Australia.

Maggie Island 30th Jan 2021 20:19


Originally Posted by Dannyboy39 (Post 10979539)

Some mighty deals out there and I just hope that the Aussies come to their senses by that time.

If I were you I wouldn’t set my expectations that high... even if you make it into the country there’s every chance you’d miss the series or your flight home due to petty state politics.

SRFred 30th Jan 2021 21:11


Originally Posted by Dannyboy39 (Post 10979539)
Some mighty deals out there and I just hope that the Aussies come to their senses by that time. More than happy to significantly contribute to the economy that is the wonderful country that is Australia.

Yeah well put them into extended quarantine as it will probably be the only way the Aussie cricket team can win.

blubak 30th Jan 2021 21:52


Originally Posted by Dannyboy39 (Post 10979539)
So this morning I’ve just booked (with a free 48 hour cancellation of course) hotels in Brisbane and Adelaide between 6-21 December coming from England for the Ashes tests which are due to held on this date - cost comes to around 1200 GBP which is very reasonable. The first test expected to start on 8 Dec however Cricket Australia are having to put into the schedule the possibility of a 14 day quarantine again.

Not booked flights as of yet but BA are offering vouchers up until Easter 2023 if you don’t want to travel, but expected to cost 900 GBP all in.

Some mighty deals out there and I just hope that the Aussies come to their senses by that time. More than happy to significantly contribute to the economy that is the wonderful country that is Australia.

So i take it you want the borders opened up with no restrictions for anyone who wants to come to australia?
We will do just fine within australia as we move forward & get the domestic economy & travel industry back to where it needs to be.
The countries that need to 'come to their senses' as you put it are the ones that currently cant control the spread of the virus,i believe the UK are 1 of them!

Dannyboy39 30th Jan 2021 23:00


Originally Posted by blubak (Post 10979886)
So i take it you want the borders opened up with no restrictions for anyone who wants to come to australia?
We will do just fine within australia as we move forward & get the domestic economy & travel industry back to where it needs to be.
The countries that need to 'come to their senses' as you put it are the ones that currently cant control the spread of the virus,i believe the UK are 1 of them!

I’m absolutely not saying the U.K. did the right thing, Australia are receiving plaudits over here. However we cannot stay in our own bubble forever. By October in theory both countries should be fully vaccinated - so what is the problem? Right now is clearly not the time to be travelling and the likes of O’Leary have been conspicuous by their silence of late.
I just find it ridiculous that a quarantine in one state is not good enough for another state? It’s like airport security, you have to clear it at every connecting country despite the same standards generally everywhere.

blubak 31st Jan 2021 03:23


Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie (Post 10979300)
Palabtfsplk's favourite saying was: "I won't be bullied by any of those Liberal governments!" when they were gently urging her to open up. Idiot.

Its not all that long ago that the queen was bleating away & telling us what great shape the state was in & how tourism was exploding with places booked out well in advance.
There were many comments out there from the tourism operators denying her claims & now its easy to see whose facts were correct.
She hasnt lost a cent of her income whilst sending qld deeper into debt.

Ragnor 31st Jan 2021 03:41

They voted for her, and it was not a little margin either. Sco Mo better not send a cent to them tourist operators. Queen P kept them safe we all knew it wouldn’t be cheap.

patty50 31st Jan 2021 04:03

Dannyboy, with all due respect you have no clue what the sentiment on the ground is here. We have no desire for foreign tourists, similarly WA doesn’t care about east coast tourists.

And insofar as you mention the almighty tourist dollar, our economy loses significantly more money from aussies going overseas than we gain from foreign visitors. The money being spent on big ticket purchases locally right now is eye watering and more than covers whatever contribution the Barmy Army might bring.

There is no chance whatsoever that borders will be open to foreign tourists in 2021.

currawong 31st Jan 2021 04:09

Border restrictions cost, outbreaks cost more. Lots more.

Handy interactive map showing where all the jobkeeper payments are going.

https://taylorfry.com.au/articles/wh...obkeeper-live/

blubak 31st Jan 2021 04:20


Originally Posted by Ragnor (Post 10980019)
They voted for her, and it was not a little margin either. Sco Mo better not send a cent to them tourist operators. Queen P kept them safe we all knew it wouldn’t be cheap.

Dont think you can blame the tourism operators,many of them have put their whole life into making their business successful.
If Scomo does assist,it needs to be a 1 on 1 deal directly with those operators & completely by passing queen P & her ongoing meddling & lies.

McLimit 31st Jan 2021 04:40


Dannyboy, with all due respect you have no clue what the sentiment on the ground is here. We have no desire for foreign tourists, similarly WA doesn’t care about east coast tourists.

And insofar as you mention the almighty tourist dollar, our economy loses significantly more money from aussies going overseas than we gain from foreign visitors. The money being spent on big ticket purchases locally right now is eye watering and more than covers whatever contribution the Barmy Army might bring.

There is no chance whatsoever that borders will be open to foreign tourists in 2021.
OMG.....................The arrogance is breathtaking. Could you be any more insular?

The stupidity of your comments will come back to bite.

currawong 31st Jan 2021 04:55


Originally Posted by blubak (Post 10980030)
Dont think you can blame the tourism operators,many of them have put their whole life into making their business successful.
If Scomo does assist,it needs to be a 1 on 1 deal directly with those operators & completely by passing queen P & her ongoing meddling & lies.

Why not fix the problem at its source?

Quarantine escapes (regardless of state) without which there would be no justification for further restrictions.

If the first line of defense works, the second line should not be needed.

DirectAnywhere 31st Jan 2021 05:00

Perth into a 5 day lockdown. McGowan has asked other states to prevent inbound travel to WA.

Hotel quarantine failure, yet again.

Ragnor 31st Jan 2021 05:20

Queen P can fix that mess she made with QLD money, they have given 200million for VA they can give QLD tourism operators some cash. I have zero sympathy here for this they overwhelmingly voted for her knowing the out come just like Western Australian residents they fell for the politics. QLD are just suffering now for it.

hoss58 31st Jan 2021 05:31

News.com just reporting Perth going into a 5 day lock down from 6pm Perth time.

On eyre 31st Jan 2021 05:51


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 10980040)
Perth into a 5 day lockdown. McGowan has asked other states to prevent inbound travel to WA.

Hotel quarantine failure, yet again.

Its his border he wants to close but it’s getting too close to election time for McClown to have the goulies to do that. P*** weak.

Lookleft 31st Jan 2021 05:52

Not just Perth but the south-west as well. So from being the great commentator of the West to being scared as a rabbit down a hole for the sake of 1 case in the community! Unbelievable.

SOPS 31st Jan 2021 05:54


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 10979344)
Can you give us a source for that "quote"?

I think we can see what he meant.

hoss58 31st Jan 2021 06:12


Originally Posted by Lookleft (Post 10980052)
Not just Perth but the south-west as well. So from being the great commentator of the West to being scared as a rabbit down a hole for the sake of 1 case in the community! Unbelievable.


And they did it all on their own. No help from leper colonies in the east required.

Hoss 58

jrfsp 31st Jan 2021 06:18

I mean WAs reaction was always going to happen.

However, how many further escapes from HQ will we have this year??? How much do these lockdowns costs? Where is Socmo?

100 years ago we had to sense to have purpose built quarantine facilities away from major centres .now we stick them in the major capitals. This wont be the last epidemic...

Foxxster 31st Jan 2021 07:02


Originally Posted by hoss58 (Post 10980045)
News.com just reporting Perth going into a 5 day lock down from 6pm Perth time.

and medical workers are being trained in the new test regime.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=4vkx_1612017960


Ragnor 31st Jan 2021 07:06

WA are so unprepared for this its hilarious.

brokenagain 31st Jan 2021 07:07

Everybody except Western Australians.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1feab0c4d.jpeg

blubak 31st Jan 2021 07:35


Originally Posted by Lookleft (Post 10980052)
Not just Perth but the south-west as well. So from being the great commentator of the West to being scared as a rabbit down a hole for the sake of 1 case in the community! Unbelievable.

Just looking at the list of places nominated as possible exposure sites,1 of them is a servo with a date of 13 jan whereas the rest of them are 28 & 29 jan.
Could be this hotel quarantine worker had been working more than 1 job,isnt that a big no no.
See what the clown has to say about that.

Dannyboy39 31st Jan 2021 07:36


Originally Posted by patty50 (Post 10980022)
Dannyboy, with all due respect you have no clue what the sentiment on the ground is here. We have no desire for foreign tourists, similarly WA doesn’t care about east coast tourists.

And insofar as you mention the almighty tourist dollar, our economy loses significantly more money from aussies going overseas than we gain from foreign visitors. The money being spent on big ticket purchases locally right now is eye watering and more than covers whatever contribution the Barmy Army might bring.

There is no chance whatsoever that borders will be open to foreign tourists in 2021.

Of course in-migration is a vote winner everywhere... not! Especially in a place like Australia! As I say, by October everyone in both countries should have protection. And then at that point, what is the problem?

goodonyamate 31st Jan 2021 07:41

Re WA, as much as I too want to say [email protected]&k you mcgoose, It was always going to happen, my hope now is that the lockdown contains it, and we can all get back to work soon.

maybe now you won’t be such a smug prick.

best of luck to those in WA


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