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dr dre 14th Jun 2021 12:28


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11061896)
What they all said.. if the border was never opened again, they would be very happy.

Australians have always readily fallen into the "close our borders" rhetoric. Asylum Seekers, Islam, African gangs, poor migrants stealing "their" jobs, Chinese buying up all property. It's a pretty common political talking point to blame problems in this country on "the outsiders".

Until Covid came along and everyone overseas who could potentially bring the virus here got put into that category too. And governments are now pandering to that line of thought. For those who's job it is to bring "the outsiders" into the country, pilots, they have now had their livelihoods disrupted. I've seen this coming in this country for a while, it's just now it's affecting Aviation in a big way.

mattyj 15th Jun 2021 21:26

At the end of February, Moderna delivered the first batch of mRNA vaccine for phase 1 human trials. The first USA death had not been announced. It wasn’t until March 11 2020 that the WHO declared a worldwide pandemic. The mRNA technology had been in development for nearly a decade ..it was a hammer looking for a nail


https://www.bostonmagazine.com/healt...virus-vaccine/

Fonz121 16th Jun 2021 23:43

Just when you think it couldn’t get any worse for LH crew.

https://simpleflying.com/cathay-paci...-a350-flights/

PoppaJo 17th Jun 2021 00:12

Forget Cathay. Cathay 2.0 will just wither away into nothing and turn into another Chinese carrier. Won’t be a career airline or a employer of choice for expats anymore. Management have many many mis steps in the last 5 years on the operations front.

SHVC 17th Jun 2021 00:32

Computerized aircraft will not get off the ground with passengers. Cathay just trying to make themself relevant.

stickshaken 17th Jun 2021 01:28

Looks like NSW is utilising the same scare tactics via the media that Victoria used.
Not long now till another boarder closure and lockdown.
The whole thing is out of proportion and the lies do not add up, but “ go get tested and line up for your Jab “ and become a guinea pig for science and the dragon.

This is no more than a global collection of DNA, and for those that get jabbed that is what the dragon wants.
There is more to this hidden agenda than meets the eye. I am not an anti vaxer or conspiracy theorist but I do have a problem with being coerced into getting these experimental gene altering drugs that haven’t been tested long enough.

Let’s come back in 5-10 years time and see how this has worked out for all those sheep.


turbantime 17th Jun 2021 01:37


Originally Posted by stickshaken (Post 11063309)
This is no more than a global collection of DNA, and for those that get jabbed that is what the dragon wants.

Ever had a blood test done?

Green.Dot 17th Jun 2021 02:19


Originally Posted by stickshaken (Post 11063309)
I am not an anti vaxer or conspiracy theorist

Ha ha good one :}

SOPS 17th Jun 2021 02:25


Originally Posted by stickshaken (Post 11063309)
Looks like NSW is utilising the same scare tactics via the media that Victoria used.
Not long now till another boarder closure and lockdown.
The whole thing is out of proportion and the lies do not add up, but “ go get tested and line up for your Jab “ and become a guinea pig for science and the dragon.

This is no more than a global collection of DNA, and for those that get jabbed that is what the dragon wants.
There is more to this hidden agenda than meets the eye. I am not an anti vaxer or conspiracy theorist but I do have a problem with being coerced into getting these experimental gene altering drugs that haven’t been tested long enough.

Let’s come back in 5-10 years time and see how this has worked out for all those sheep.

You sound exactly like a conspiracy theorist and anti vaxer.

itsnotthatbloodyhard 17th Jun 2021 02:36

I’m starting to wish I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard someone say ‘I’m not an antivaxer or conspiracy theorist, but…’, followed by some complete bollocks about how Covid vaccines will alter your DNA or cause spoons to stick to you magnetically.

minigundiplomat 17th Jun 2021 02:59

I wish I had a dollar for every time someone misspelt ‘border’ during the COVID era; I’d be waving to you from my super yacht.

There is no frickin ‘a’ in ‘border’.

A boarder is a person who receives regular meals when staying somewhere, in return for payment or services

jrfsp 17th Jun 2021 03:24

Once again looks like SA first to move with the "Slamming shut" on covid outbreaks. "People who visited NSW hotspots banned from entering SA"

Lets hope this doesnt turn into another repeat of Melbourne. Why are international airport drivers not getting vaccinated, beggars belief at this stage.

LostWanderer 17th Jun 2021 03:42


Originally Posted by minigundiplomat (Post 11063327)
I wish I had a dollar for every time someone misspelt ‘border’ during the COVID era; I’d be waving to you from my super yacht.

There is no frickin ‘a’ in ‘border’.

A boarder is a person who receives regular meals when staying somewhere, in return for payment or services

Thats why all of us became pilots. We can't spell, read or write and our personalities are questionable at best

PoppaJo 17th Jun 2021 03:42


Originally Posted by jrfsp (Post 11063334)
Why are international airport drivers not getting vaccinated, beggars belief at this stage.

I think the bigger question is why are they not getting tested daily? This bloke had one test only, the positive one.

One state about to open borders, as another is about to close. There goes half my roster again. I have basically budgeted at half salary for the next year with all these rolling border restrictions.

minigundiplomat 17th Jun 2021 03:50


Originally Posted by LostWanderer (Post 11063339)
Thats why all of us became pilots. We can't spell, read or write and our personalities are questionable at best

if only it was just pilots..... it’s everywhere.

Chronic Snoozer 17th Jun 2021 07:17


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11063340)
I think the bigger question is why are they not getting tested daily? This bloke had one test only, the positive one.

Well for one thing, it reduces the chances of a positive test! :}

Chronic Snoozer 17th Jun 2021 07:19


Originally Posted by LostWanderer (Post 11063339)
Thats why all of us became pilots. We can't spell, read or write and our personalities are questionable at best

Please don't tell my mother I'm a pilot. She thinks I'm a piano player at a whorehouse.

NGsim 17th Jun 2021 08:30


Originally Posted by stickshaken (Post 11063309)
I am not an anti vaxer or conspiracy theorist

Just a run of the mill f*ckwit then?

mattyj 17th Jun 2021 10:06

After the year of lies we’ve just witnessed, anyone who blindly follows the “expert class” or parrots “trust the science” is really pushing the gullibility boat out now.

Ladloy 17th Jun 2021 19:00


Originally Posted by mattyj (Post 11063512)
After the year of lies we’ve just witnessed, anyone who blindly follows the “expert class” or parrots “trust the science” is really pushing the gullibility boat out now.

Tell us the truths then.

halfmoon 17th Jun 2021 21:10

Bottom line is people need to stop watching the mainstream misledia and do their own research. Yeah it takes time and effort to do this but you people need to wake up or you'll be in a state of perpetual lockdowns and restrictions.

SHVC 17th Jun 2021 21:14

Why is it, that all these outbreaks occur just before holidays! even tho NSW has 2 community cases over two day well below the fed hot spot definition.

blubak 17th Jun 2021 22:32


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11063340)
I think the bigger question is why are they not getting tested daily? This bloke had one test only, the positive one.

One state about to open borders, as another is about to close. There goes half my roster again. I have basically budgeted at half salary for the next year with all these rolling border restrictions.

Hopefully now a daily test becomes mandatory for these drivers & anyone else out there who is seen as being in a high risk scenario.
Not sure if this guy was required to test & just didnt bother🤔

RodH 17th Jun 2021 22:54

With all of the doom and angst being shown in this thread I thought a spot of humour might come in handy. It does actually relate to borders opening and a landing by the Captain hence it being here.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....df8ea0495a.png

jrfsp 18th Jun 2021 04:37

So the VIC couple who drove via NSW to QLD have been fined $4k each by QLD police.....hardly much of a deterrent. I hope NSW Police also fine then, i wont hold my breath.

Ladloy 18th Jun 2021 09:30


Originally Posted by halfmoon (Post 11063844)
Bottom line is people need to stop watching the mainstream misledia and do their own research. Yeah it takes time and effort to do this but you people need to wake up or you'll be in a state of perpetual lockdowns and restrictions.

show us some of your research

ManillaChillaDilla 18th Jun 2021 11:56

There are many valid sentiments on this thread.

I guess the question has to be asked, what is the real goal of our " leaders ".

The well being of the nation or political survival?

Actions ALWAYS speak louder than words. Douglas MacArthur comes to mind unfortunately.

Look after yourselves.

MCD




Buster Hyman 18th Jun 2021 13:21


Originally Posted by jrfsp (Post 11063950)
So the VIC couple who drove via NSW to QLD have been fined $4k each by QLD police.....hardly much of a deterrent. I hope NSW Police also fine then, i wont hold my breath.

Now, the businesses affected should be given their details and commence Civil proceedings. That should be where the deterrent kicks in!

clark y 18th Jun 2021 20:36

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-...anga/100067878

From last year. Some community service.

I'm guessing here, but the women in the article above seemed to be just out to have some fun whereas the current couple seemed to be leaving Victoria for good. Does anyone know their circumstances? Perhaps they were business owners who could not make ends meet caused by how many months of lockdowns. Maybe they were just looking for a party. Not saying they did the right thing, but I can certainly understand people trying to escape.


https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...e62fa8c08d9d4c

It seems a lot of people don't want to be in Victoria.

machtuk 19th Jun 2021 00:01

A lot of replies in this thread show the high level of fear & hysteria that exists out in the community, something the grubby Govt just love!

SHVC 19th Jun 2021 00:48

Off topic, how is there still 40,000 people registered with DFAT to come back to Australia that seem stuck over seas. Latest ASX release from SY airport has 88,000 international passengers passing through International, NZ bubble would be no where near that capacity.

“88,000 international passengers passed through Sydney Airport in May 2021, more than 93% down on the corresponding period in 2019. The month-on-month improvement April to May 2021 was driven by ongoing quarantine-free Trans-Tasman travel”.

minigundiplomat 19th Jun 2021 01:05


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11064520)
Off topic, how is there still 40,000 people registered with DFAT to come back to Australia that seem stuck over seas. Latest ASX release from SY airport has 88,000 international passengers passing through International, NZ bubble would be no where near that capacity.

“88,000 international passengers passed through Sydney Airport in May 2021, more than 93% down on the corresponding period in 2019. The month-on-month improvement April to May 2021 was driven by ongoing quarantine-free Trans-Tasman travel”.

Because people keep leaving Australia for weddings in Mumbai, cricket and other deferrable events whilst the remainder of us do the righty...

Ladloy 19th Jun 2021 02:47

I hope PPRUNE'S precious Gladys knows what she's doing in NSW.

SHVC 19th Jun 2021 03:06


Originally Posted by Ladloy (Post 11064537)
I hope PPRUNE'S previous Gladys knows what she's doing in NSW.


What else should she be doing? Lock 3/4 of Sydney up for a month! Response is proportionate to what’s happening.

Ladloy 19th Jun 2021 03:50


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11064544)
What else should she be doing? Lock 3/4 of Sydney up for a month! Response is proportionate to what’s happening.

The exposure sites are quite extensive. The contact tracing is usually NSW's saving grace, but let's see what happens.

SHVC 19th Jun 2021 03:54

Well I’m glad our premier isn’t carrying on like a spastic like the majority of the others. Measured calculated response that will be tightened and loosen as needed. There is no pandemic in Australia

Ladloy 19th Jun 2021 05:50


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11064554)
Well I’m glad our premier isn’t carrying on like a spastic like the majority of the others. Measured calculated response that will be tightened and loosen as needed. There is no pandemic in Australia

I remember when Trump said that in the US

PoppaJo 19th Jun 2021 06:31

The risk here is probably different compared to previous outbreaks as the Delta is ripping across the UK doubling cases every 10 days, as they re commence the upward trend on the graphs again.

If people walk past each other in stores and pickup the Delta which is what went on in Myer here, then it will be seeding all over the city. We won’t really know for another week or two.

Masks indoors will prevent much of that. Delta is a prick of thing to contain once seeding commences.

Fonz121 19th Jun 2021 06:39

Yes cases are on the up in the UK. But look at these two graphs showing cases vs deaths. There might be a slight lag that hasn’t been captured yet but the vaccine is doing its thing. Case numbers shouldn’t be used as a metric for lockdowns in a vaccinated society.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2e3f6982d.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fb1edd0f2.jpeg

PoppaJo 19th Jun 2021 06:58

And here we go again folks.

WA requires all NSW arrivals to quarantine until negative test results.

Effective immediately.


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