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MERGED: Qantas grounded effective immediately.

Old 29th Oct 2011, 22:48
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 22:50
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I'll put my money on Joyce getting the arse over this one,
VERY much doubt that will happen, more likely to get a bonus.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 22:52
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ABC News:

After three Qantas executives gave evidence, the Transport Workers Union called on CEO Alan Joyce to explain the timing of his announcement.

Lawyers for the three unions all argued for the industrial action to be suspended, rather than terminated.

The lawyer for the AIPA said he had grave concerns about the legality of the actions of Qantas and the strategies it was using in the dispute.

He called for a 90-day suspension of the industrial action to enable it to continue its negotiations.
That is hardly "caving in", rather a fairly rational approach? The dispute will never be resolved until the parties start meaningful negotiations. The media suggests the unions were always willing to negotiate.

Keep it factual.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 22:53
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Bill Shorten on Insiders this morning, seemed mightily pissed off with Qantas
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 22:54
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:05
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I agree with aiming point, AJ has won this one. The unions and pilots will cave.
The damage is done to the Qantas name now all over the world. They should stick at it and stick it to AJ.
BUT THEY WONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck to them anyway.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:14
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Jetstar to be grounded ...........

.........If the Qantas dispute isn't resolved today !!!

A lot of Jetstar's (line) maintenance is done by Qantas LAMEs.

Come 8.00pm Monday if there are no Qantas LAME's available I predict the Jetstar fleet will very quickly be forced to the ground.

In many bases Qantas LAME's handle JQ transits and carry out ER preflights, MEL applications and transit defects.

I know that in many bases there are no other options for JQ line maintenance.

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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:16
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AJ wins , if you want your job back youll need to sign a new contract on their terms, or stay home indefinantly.
If you wait too long the worms at Jetstar will offer to fly the A380 for peanuts and pay for the CCQ.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:24
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Grrr "UP YOURS"

I have watched a couple of interviews this morning with AJ-on 9's Today show,Sky's Agenda.............the BEST by far was the interview by Alan Kohler on Inside Business.

He lined up the Leprechaun beautifully.......especially over his 70% pay rise. 'Had AJ squirming like a little weasel.

Kohler said that taking this pay rise by the QF Rem Committee was like saying to all staff........UP YOURS !

Gold. That is exactly what we think.

Good on you ABC........I got my 8 cents worth
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:26
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So when AJ grounded QF and locked out the employees had he thought through that JokeStar needed the QF bit, like the engineers and others, to operate? I think he has completley completley lost the plot. And let me tell you..I was walking through an Asian airport last night to get on my aircraft, and the anger I saw from Australian pax towards AJ as they could not board thier flight home was unbelivable....QF brand is being destroyed by the minute!!
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:29
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Interesting TV this am. ABC24 reported documents filed at the hearing demonstrated executives were alerted to the grounding/lockout plans a week ago, yet in the 9 Today interview AJ still stuck to the line the decision was taken after the AGM. He now needs a nose job!
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:30
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Hey stubby jumbo, can you post a link to those interviews if your able please ???
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:30
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AJ is doing precisely what Peter Reith did in the waterfront dispute a decade ago. It will result in a changed workplace and perhaps for the better. What bothers me is the collateral damage to things like fatigue where a company can call you in,use you for 3 hours, send you home and get you back later in the day making you effectively a casual. Just using that as an example to indicate there will be bad changes along with some that may be good.

As suggested earlier is AJ serving Qantas up to some buy-out mob who will put up the parts for sale?
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:31
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Do union organizers get paid whilst the members are on strike or locked out. What award is Steve P paid under or is he on an individual agreement, thanks FOR STUFFING MY LIFE YOU GRUB.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:33
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So when AJ grounded QF and locked out the employees
AJ hasn't locked out anyone yet, thats monday night.

All he has done has grounded the fleet, even if FWA suspends or terminates the industrial action, they don't have any say as to where and when QF should operate the fleet.

QF could stay on the deck for quite awhile.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:33
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A foreigner coming into our country and turning an Australian company into an offshore operation and a farce......How the does that work ???
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:35
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How do you think you got the wages and conditions you currently enjoy blakewindermere? Because of the generosity and compassion of the company?
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:36
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Public apathy at its best..... "Ah well, where do I click now?"
Shame on you LC......Huge profits, not a cent to the shareholder and killing off jobs. Destroying yet another WORKPLACE... What an Aussie
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:36
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QF will need to shrink from here to remain viable. Either that or reduce the ticket prices/costs. The prices are high and service wanting. Some new babes wouldn't hurt either! I think this has a long way to go yet even after they start flying again.

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Old 29th Oct 2011, 23:36
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Dont speak about Gillard like that!
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