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MERGED: Qantas grounded effective immediately.

Old 29th Oct 2011, 13:21
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QF94, if there was such a thing here on pprune as a Respect Rating, you have definitely earned one from me.

What a great post!!!
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 13:23
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In FWA, should have brought my sleeping bag.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 13:26
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Is this the first time in almost 100 years QF has (by management decision) voluntarily grounded itself? What is the longest period the flying rat has been on the ground?
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 13:27
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Hi, Will this have much of an effect on Australia Post Airmail to USA or do they use a different fleet?
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 13:33
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Sue and Ians tissues may make a good pillow for a rest!
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 13:34
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Air Mail to USA will be fine

Just heard that Etihad/Virgin are looking at flying in some spare A340 fleet

I reckon it will all be over in a few days. QF are losing $25M a day whilst they ground the fleet. That cant last long
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Thanks 1a, hope it all gets worked out quickly for you guys
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 13:39
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Well done Alan Joyce. It's about time someone stood up to the unions/association and their 1970's thinking. If it takes stopping business to bring it to a head, so be it.

In a global market place global salaries apply. Australian unions needs to stop looking at the past, wake up to the fact that the world has moved on and become international.

Competing in a global marketplace needs comparative salaries. Take it or find another job. There are plenty out there.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 13:46
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And the global cost of living comes from
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 13:47
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Yeah bloody Unions. They shot JFK, caused global warming and La Nina.

Anyhow, back to the news....
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 13:49
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I'm sure that everyone is taking their fatigue management seriously.

If for example the airline was to announce flights resuming that the pilots had had suitable sleep - would be shame if there were no pilots fit to fly , due to stress caused by the company, when the company wanted them.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 14:01
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Ok, a little bit of education for those who blame the big scary "unions".

Unions are NOT FACELESS.

Infact, the face of any UNION is the FACE of EVERY member - the staff.

So to all those liberal party scaremongers - you are not fighting faceless labor party hacks/unions, you are fighting the miserable yet proud, poor yet hopeful, abused yet willing - face of EVERY MEMBER.

These people have a vested interest in the future of the company. The institutional shareholders and the board - have little interest.

UNIONS do not exist without their members. In the same way Qantas does not exist without its staff.

This fight involves many of the QANTAS STAFF, saying enough is enough!

This fight has resulted in the people with everything to gain, gambling on the future of those who have everything to lose.

The government are more worried about their re-election chances than the best interest of the public and Qantas staff. Joyce has both forced the hand of Government, and the hand of his staff - the only positive result will be his demise.

I'm not a qantas worker, but I do have shares.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 14:06
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go for your life c173.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 14:10
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Apparently a mate of mine heard or read a poll was taken whereby a 1000 random people in the street as to thier opinions of who is to blame in all this mess. The outcome.....67% respondants "non employees" believed QF management is up to no good and feathering thier own nests.

Sounds to me that these 670 odd people may very well be earmarked for immediate recruitment by management as it is strongly believed they will blend in superbly with existing employees....
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 14:17
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Seriously, WTF do Qantas management think is going to happen when (if) this is all over - everyone will happily go back to work like nothing ever happened?

This is the end of Qantas - I, for one will be studying the "SEEK" form guide. It is a hostile, mind sucking, soul destroying workplace.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 14:21
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mattsd, and don't forget global safety, think Garuda etc.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 14:29
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Don't fret fellas

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Old 29th Oct 2011, 14:42
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River 1

Have been underwater with my VBA shares all year but last month doubled up to average down on share price.May start making money next week.
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 14:48
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Folks,
Re. the list of things that the AGM and the Government didn't hear about, add the happenings in Vietnam, where it seems that likely that Qantas has done its investment.
By Vietnam Government edict, Jetstar Pacific majority shareholding and control has passed to Vietnam Airlines.
So much for the much vaunted strategy of having only a minority share in "the future of Qantas".
Tootle pip!!
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Old 29th Oct 2011, 14:51
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Seems AJ never made it to these Service Quality meetings as a student. This is what happens when you put a little gay man, with a huge ego in power, coupled with arrogant control freak in LC. Disgraceful!!! AJ you think terminating the industrial action at FWA will give our customers trust in our product for the future? This is going to take years to repair. Thats if we make it! I`m glad your not Australian but LC & the Board, you are. I hope Karma bites you on the arse big time.
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