Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
Reload this Page >

MERGED: Qantas grounded effective immediately.

Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific Airline and RPT Rumours & News in Australia, enZed and the Pacific

MERGED: Qantas grounded effective immediately.

Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:31
  #121 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
And then on the other hand, you have an idiot like Geoffrey Thomas on now. Geez, you'd think he flies for free the way he carries on defending Qantas.
SimonBl is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:33
  #122 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Pants on fire
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
How do you say 'hari kari' in gaelic?
Livs Hairdresser is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:34
  #123 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Domaine de la Romanee-Conti
Posts: 1,690
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
They think it's '89 again and it isn't, the damage has been done with the open skies agreements. No need for sc@b labour etc etc to get the pax moving, EK SQ CX and the rest will happily move in and grab all the pax without even breaking a sweat. Big early christmas present for DJ as well.

I don't reckon he even wants gov't intervention at all, he actually wants it shut down for good, close the bank account and gut the parts so he can realize his grand dream of moving the whole operation lock stock and barrel to Asia.

What a black day
Luke SkyToddler is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:35
  #124 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Peter Reith's now on the phone on the TV, totally regurgitating the Qantas line. Makes me, as a non-union loving person, sick.
SimonBl is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:37
  #125 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Up left - Down right
Posts: 946
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I don't understand why the lockout is from Monday, yet flights are obviously (confirmed, people are being virtually being kicked off flights this afternoon) being canceled now.
And the media winge when engineers take a 1 hour stop work meeting and have to give qantas 3 days notice BUT Qantas cancel ALL FLIGHTS with NO NOTICE,

WTF Julia
Short_Circuit is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:38
  #126 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In My Imagination
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
They are adamant that there is no other action an employer can take other than employee lockout.... they have decided this after seeking legal advice. They are adamant that this is this only course of action they could have taken.
QueenBuzzzzz is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:42
  #127 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Brisbane, Qld
Posts: 1,366
Received 28 Likes on 14 Posts
US Census Bureau says the Population of Los Angeles County is 9,818,605, Australian Population currently approximately 22,546,000, just thought i'd point it out... In the great big scheme of things this isn't a storm in a teacup, losing one battle like this only seeks to embolden others like Alan Joyce out there and strengthen their own thoughts that they are above everyone and don't need to show any kind of Conscience or Morals when dealing with their employees.

Hopefully this will all come tumbling down for Alan Joyce and finally show people like him that if their going to continue to cry poor and demand higher wages for themselves whilst putting others out of jobs and refusing even the simple increases they'd better have something to show for it other than that they can grease their buddies up and get them to vote their way and tell all their employees who made them all that money to just put up and shut up.

You want to bring God into this? How would God feel about someone so morally bankrupt and greedy, someone who obviously lies to achieve his own goals?

Last edited by Ixixly; 29th Oct 2011 at 09:43. Reason: Text size
Ixixly is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:43
  #128 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Up The 116E, Stbd Turn at 32S...:-)
Age: 82
Posts: 3,087
Received 33 Likes on 16 Posts
And STILL, the
'Irishman' is toikin about soivoival oif the coimpany......

And, on ABC National it was stated this arvo Perth time, that QANTAS has pre-booked hotels all over the planet - LAST WEEK!! - to accommodate this course of action.......

So, it HAS BEEN PLANNED for..... PRIOR to the AGM.......

Ex FSO GRIFFO is online now  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:44
  #129 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sunny side up
Posts: 1,206
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Holy cow.
If it wasn't already obvious, it shows what little regard Qantas management has for their customers, to throw people off aircraft with no notice in the middle of a weekend. The unions gave plenty of warning about upcoming disruptions. This is like the world's biggest Christmas baggie snap strike.

Of course most of the Australian Public Service still flies Qantas (Why, when there are two major airlines? Question for another time ). This will impact on the government's operations as well. All this after a $500 million dollar profit...yeah, they're hurting. Really hurting.

All the best, guys/gals.
How do you say 'hari kari' in gaelic?
How about póg mo thóin, or 'kiss my arse' in English. That's the message to the passengers.
Worrals in the wilds is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:46
  #130 (permalink)  
Keg

Nunc est bibendum
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 5,583
Received 11 Likes on 2 Posts
If the CP, Fleet Mgrs etc locked out, not able to do their job, what price CASA would suspend the AOC? That would get eveybody's attention!!
Supervisories and senior checks not locked out. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if a number of the senior checks resign though!
Keg is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:47
  #131 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Dick Smith now on ABC News 24 <sigh>

Bugger it, there's no point in trying to 'report' on what Dick's saying.
SimonBl is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:49
  #132 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Mydadsbag
Posts: 1,113
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I don't believe you said "cuckoo land" Dick Smith!!!!

Bbbbbbzbzbzbzbzbzbz
Mr.Buzzy is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:49
  #133 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In My Imagination
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Worrells ITW

Qantaslink are still going with normal ops... that should get the pollys home in bed tonight

Wonder if Jetstar will "borrow" any grounded fleet to get the pax moving?
QueenBuzzzzz is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:50
  #134 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bexley
Posts: 1,792
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
FWA hearing at 10pm tonight.
ALAEA Fed Sec is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:50
  #135 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 403
Likes: 0
Received 35 Likes on 9 Posts
This move has been in play for weeks. Yesterday Joyce was talking up the airline at the AGM, domestic best for business yada yada....., please give me more money!

Qantas should have been in a trading halt yesterday, before the AGM.

Someone please call ASIC. The guy and the board should be in jail.!
The The is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:52
  #136 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: A dozen towns ago
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A pyrrhic victory is still a victory

What's been worrying me for a long time now is that the lil' tacker MUST win this at any cost.
It's not about the money, ie his money. If he wins he gets "x dollars", if he loses he gets "x dollars minus 5%", there's bugger all in it.
Why must he win?
He's still young with plenty of CEO life left in him. If he loses this he won't get a job as CEO of a toilet paper factory let alone another airline and if he has to, he will destroy this airline.
He won't be remembered as the guy who killed Qantas, he'll be remembered as the guy who busted up the unions.
The govt does not want to get involved. If they side with the unions, there's no more Grange/Ipads/upgrades or free Chairmans Lounge memberships. If they side with Qantas they alienate the electorate. Gillard, Albanese et all are locked in the bedroom with the blankets pulled up over their heads hoping & praying that this thing will go away.
caneworm is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:52
  #137 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Dick Smith avoiding the question of whether or not AJ made the right decision to pull this 3 hours after informing the government.
forever flying is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:52
  #138 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Retired-ville
Posts: 402
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I don't even work for the little mongrel, but sad to see what he's done to a good brand.
If nothing else, the 71% pay rise can be used to fix his teeth,
Does the man have no self respect displaying a woeful set of gnashers like that?
Good luck guys. I hope he falls flat on his little green @rse.
LongTimeInCX is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 09:55
  #139 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Up left - Down right
Posts: 946
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Dick Smith

I apologizes for my comment as I misheard your comment.

I retract this statement and await your next comment.

SC

Last edited by Short_Circuit; 29th Oct 2011 at 10:51.
Short_Circuit is offline  
Old 29th Oct 2011, 10:06
  #140 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Atlantis
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
"In order to save the village we had to destroy it."
American major after the destruction of the Vietnamese Village Ben Tre
simsalabim is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.