Ukraine War Thread Part 2

[NutLoose]

Update on the derailed Russian train, they’re going to need another loco.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1652994787576889350?cxt=HHwWjIC-kYuAz_AtAAAA

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1652994787576889350?cxt=HHwWjIC-kYuAz_AtAAAA

[Video Mixdown]

List of the U.K., new purchases planned for Ukraine including long range missiles.
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Sincerely hope that any ruZZian 'diplomat' who turns up at FCDO banging on about red lines is told to foxtrot oscar.

[Lonewolf_50]

Sorry LW, I meant to put NATO not the US, there are more than one nuclear power in that organisation. You will get no disagreement from me. The failure to "speak with one voice" is what IMO enabled the decision (by Vlad Vader) that the risks were less (his assessment that the dysfunctional antics of various pols would leave the field clear to do that .. and it's his own damned fault that the logistics and momentum didn't result in the Blitzkrieg he was hoping to emulate.
As for pre invasion I was one of those saying NATO / UN ha! should have gone in as peacekeepers at the invitation of Ukraine to the disputed border. But the snag there is that the Russian veto would have rendered that viable idea (hell, viable since 2014) moot.

As to military and aviation matters, I will note that while the US has offered up a variety of kit - to include Over 1,600 Stinger anti-aircraft systems - the State Department remains a bundle of mostly useless *****, and they have been since about the time I was loitering off of the coast of Lebanon on a destroyer in the early 1980's. United States security assistance committed to Ukraine includes:


Over 1,600 Stinger anti-aircraft systems;
Over 10,000 Javelin anti-armor systems;
Over 59,000 other anti-armor systems and munitions;
160 155mm Howitzers and over 1,500,000 155mm artillery rounds;
Over 7,000 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
Over 14,000 155mm rounds of Remote Anti-Armor Mine (RAAM) Systems;
100,000 rounds of 125mm tank ammunition;
Over 50,000 152mm artillery rounds;
Approximately 40,000 130mm artillery rounds;
40,000 122mm artillery rounds;
60,000 122mm GRAD rockets;
72 105mm Howitzers and over 450,000 105mm artillery rounds;
Over 300 tactical vehicles to tow weapons;
54 tactical vehicles to recover equipment;
30 ammunition support vehicles;
14 armored bridging systems;
38 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems and ammunition;
47 120mm mortar systems;
10 82mm mortar systems;
67 81mm mortar systems;
58 60mm mortar systems;
Over 345,000 mortar rounds;
Over 3,000 Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles;
Over 1,800,000 rounds of 25mm ammunition;
Rocket launchers and ammunition;
Precision-guided rockets;
10 command post vehicles;
One Patriot air defense battery and munitions;
Eight National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS) and munitions;
Two HAWK air defense firing units and munitions;
RIM-7 missiles for air defense;
12 Avenger air defense systems;
Nine c-UAS gun trucks;
10 mobile c-UAS laser-guided rocket systems;
Anti-aircraft guns and ammunition;
Equipment to integrate Western air defense launchers, missiles, and radars with Ukraine’s air defense systems;
Equipment to sustain Ukraine’s existing air defense capabilities;
High-speed Anti-radiation missiles (HARMs);
Precision aerial munitions;
4,000 Zuni aircraft rockets;
20 Mi-17 helicopters;
31 Abrams tanks;
45 T-72B tanks;
120mm and 105mm tank ammunition;
109 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles;
Four Bradley Fire Support Team vehicles;
Over 2,000 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
Over 100 light tactical vehicles;
60 trucks and 108 trailers to transport heavy equipment;
Eight logistics support vehicles;
89 heavy fuel tankers and 105 fuel trailers;
90 Stryker Armored Personnel Carriers;
300 M113 Armored Personnel Carriers;
250 M1117 Armored Security Vehicles;
Over 500 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicles (MRAPs);
Six armored utility trucks;
Mine clearing equipment;
Over 35,000 grenade launchers and small arms;
Over 200,000,000 rounds of small arms ammunition;
Over 100,000 sets of body armor and helmets;
Switchblade Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS);
Phoenix Ghost UAS;
CyberLux K8 UAS;
Altius-600 UAS;
Jump-20 UAS;
Puma UAS;
Scan Eagle UAS;
Two radars for UAS;
Laser-guided rocket systems and munitions;
Unmanned Coastal Defense Vessels;
Over 70 counter-artillery and counter-mortar radars;
20 multi-mission radars;
Counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems and equipment;
Counter air defense capability;
21 air surveillance radars;
Two Harpoon coastal defense systems;
62 coastal and riverine patrol boats;
Port and harbor security equipment;
M18A1 Claymore anti-personnel munitions;
Anti-tank mines;
C-4 explosives, demolition munitions, and demolition equipment for obstacle clearing;
Obstacle emplacement equipment;
Tactical secure communications systems and support equipment;
Four satellite communications antennas;
SATCOM terminals and services;
Thousands of night vision devices, surveillance systems, thermal imagery systems, optics, and laser rangefinders;
Commercial satellite imagery services;
Explosive ordnance disposal equipment and protective gear;
Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear protective equipment;
100 armored medical treatment vehicles;
Medical supplies to include first aid kits, bandages, monitors, and other equipment;
Electronic jamming equipment;
Field equipment, cold weather gear, generators, and spare parts;
Funding for training, maintenance, and sustainment.

[NutLoose]

The hit yesterday on Pavlohrad, full view, that’s one hell of a bang :sad:


​​​​​​ https://twitter.com/revishvilig/status/1653149113964175361

https://twitter.com/revishvilig/status/1653149113964175361

[fdr]

The hit yesterday on Pavlohrad, full view, that’s one hell of a bang :sad:




https://twitter.com/revishvilig/status/1653149113964175361


For the Gunny's out there, that looks more like a FAE type explosion than a munitions dump going off, reminiscent of the fertiliser in Beirut, or coal dust. Doesn't look like munition store IMHO.

Lots of bang though... Glaziers will be busy as will the hospitals for the shard injuries.

[jolihokistix]

Not an expert here, but 'that looks thermobaric', I thought too.

[NutLoose]

Interesting overhead view of Ukrainians clearing trench lines using troops on the ground and grenade dropping drones, no translation.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1652661465185173506

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1652661465185173506

[NutLoose]

For the Gunny's out there, that looks more like a FAE type explosion than a munitions dump going off, reminiscent of the fertiliser in Beirut, or coal dust. Doesn't look like munition store IMHO.

Lots of bang though... Glaziers will be busy as will the hospitals for the shard injuries.

One report on Twitter says below, how accurate that is however bearing in mind Ukraine would want to put a good PR out about it.

Russia hit Pavlograd. Reportedly a chemical plant that stored old ballistic missiles + fuel which wasn't disposed of yet. In the footage secondary explosions can be seen which look like ammunition.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1652942432395247616

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1652942432395247616

READ more on it

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/massive-shockwave-from-russian-strike-may-have-been-a-rocket-storage-facility-detonating



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[t43562]

One report on Twitter says below, how accurate that is however bearing in mind Ukraine would want to put a good PR out about it.
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For what it's worth, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast was the home of Pivdenmash (formerly Yuzhmash) which is a space/rocket design bureau and factory and IIRC it's the home of the Ukrainian part of the UK small launch rocket company Skyrora. Anyhow it's obviously consistent with the explanation that old rockets and fuel might be somewhere there. If it's a cover up it is convenient for Ukraine that it should have happened there.


Pivdenmash operated initially as "plant 586" in the Soviet Union (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union). In 1954, Soviet aviation engineer Mikhail Yangel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Yangel) established the autonomous design bureau designated OKB-586 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OKB-586), from the former chief designer's division of plant 586.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PA_Pivdenmash

[jolihokistix]

The Russians must be getting desperate if they are now being forced to blow up things they were probably quietly hoping to 'inherit' wholesale.

[fdr]

Russian TV showing the attack by Russia on Uman that killed 23, including 6 children, in a residential, civilian area is a crime, compounded by the Orwellian obscenity of purporting the same footage to the Russian zoids as an attack by Ukraine on a DPR city. Russia is a moral offal pit.

Lest we forget.

RIP children and families murdered by Russians.

[Lonewolf_50]

Interesting field report on how mud and water make German artillery pieces less effective (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-muddy-mess-in-ukraine-is-making-trouble-for-new-howitzers-so-sensitive-to-dirt-they-come-with-their-own-vacuum-cleaners/ar-AA1aBv22?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a573b5ff76844a30afd49f570cf1bf93&ei=12)... high tech weapons come with some side effects
Germany has sent 14 Panzerhaubitze 2000 self-propelled howitzers to Ukraine, according to an inventory (https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-en/news/military-support-ukraine-2054992) of its military support to Kyiv. These weapons contain electronics that are so vulnerable to dirt and moisture that soldiers have to wear slippers or booties when they enter the vehicles so they don't track in any mud, the New York Times reported (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/01/world/europe/ukraine-mud-counteroffensive-weapons.html) on Monday.Each howitzer even comes with a vacuum cleaner, and the barrels sometimes have to be cleaned with a long brush. "The Panzer really loves cleanliness," an artillery commander named Mykola told the Times, referring to a nickname for the Panzerhaubitze. "If you fire off two full loads of ammunition, you need to spend a day servicing it."
Serhii, a lieutenant with the 43rd Separate Artillery Brigade, even decided to recall the howitzers from the field out of fear that should the machines come under Russian fire, mud will prevent them from escaping the bombardment, the Times reported. In Germany, these vehicles were kept in climate-controlled garages.

[NutLoose]

While advances in Bakhmut may seem good from the Russian point of view, territory wise they are losing areas back to Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/War_Mapper/status/1653169425749508100?cxt=HHwWiICw9a61nvEtAAAA

https://twitter.com/War_Mapper/status/1653169425749508100?cxt=HHwWiICw9a61nvEtAAAA

[NutLoose]

I hope they are all ok, I wouldn't fancy driving the car.

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1651261066041597958?cxt=HHwWjIC9jZvMuuotAAAA

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1651261066041597958?cxt=HHwWjIC9jZvMuuotAAAA

[NutLoose]

Run away.. Run away.. Run away....

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1652382931774734337?cxt=HHwWgoDQlbLhuO4tAAAA

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1652382931774734337?cxt=HHwWgoDQlbLhuO4tAAAA

[NutLoose]

;)


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[meleagertoo]

WARNING.
AVIATION CONTENT

It is being widely surmised that Ruzzia is running out of ground attack missiles and launching aircraft carrying only half their normal payload.
Why launch, say 8 aircraft all carrying 2 missiles instead of 4 each with a full load?
What's the thinking?

[Wokkafans]

@265 - the car footage is from 2022:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyIQmnTMKzc&ab_channel=APArchive

[MPN11]

WARNING.
AVIATION CONTENT

It is being widely surmised that Ruzzia is running out of ground attack missiles and launching aircraft carrying only half their normal payload.
Why launch, say 8 aircraft all carrying 2 missiles instead of 4 each with a full load?
What's the thinking?
Spread the risk from AD assets by presenting multiple targets, consuming more UKR missiles in the process? What do I know?

[ACW342]

Just watching Jake 11 on FR24 when I noticed DLH 648 enrolee Frankfurt - Almaty over Ukrainian airspace SW of Odesa. Wonder if they are there will they get out? I was under the impression ALL civ traffic kept well away.

A342

[NutLoose]

@265 - the car footage is from 2022:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyIQmnTMKzc&ab_channel=APArchive


Blimey that is a slow moving traffic jam then... ;)

Apologies

[Imagegear]

Just watching Jake 11 on FR24 when I noticed DLH 648 enrolee Frankfurt - Almaty over Ukrainian airspace SW of Odesa. Wonder if they are there will they get out? I was under the impression ALL civ traffic kept well away.

A342

Did a disappearing act before heading south from the boundary and rejoining airways,
Might be a change of underwear followed by "no tea or biscuits" interview later. :eek:

IG

[Beamr]

Sweet. Money well spent.

https://twitter.com/kvistp/status/1653116746042056712

https://twitter.com/kvistp/status/1653116746042056712

[NutLoose]

Holy sh*t WTF hit that?

https://twitter.com/kvistp/status/1653427682808299523?cxt=HHwWhoCw-fPtk_ItAAAA

https://twitter.com/kvistp/status/1653427682808299523?cxt=HHwWhoCw-fPtk_ItAAAA

[NutLoose]

Germany setting up a facility to supply Gepard ammo to Ukraine from August

https://twitter.com/kvistp/status/1653417860092289030?cxt=HHwWjICzgZOyj_ItAAAA

https://twitter.com/kvistp/status/1653417860092289030?cxt=HHwWjICzgZOyj_ItAAAA


Corrected link

[NutLoose]

These are the dickheads the Ukrainians have to put up with.... hopefully he will be fertilising a field somewhere soon.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1653409966269579264

https://twitter.com/i/status/1653409966269579264

Corrected link

[Wokkafans]

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1653183866243350533?s=20

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1653183866243350533?s=20

[NutLoose]

BRB

In the meantime some aviation content..

https://twitter.com/kvistp/status/1652694525746331648

https://twitter.com/kvistp/status/1652694525746331648

[ORAC]

Putin better check his windows are nailed shut.

Letter from Colonel Viktor Imantovich Alksnis, retired RuAF officer and Duma member - reposted online by Girkin amongst others…


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/587x795/image_8fa0f4deb21a0151617581a93a5e6bc34342ee07.png

[Lonewolf_50]

Aviation content: What about the SU-57?
Should not the stealth aircraft be a Russian force multiplier?
This article discusses a few of the issues involved.
Russia’s Su-57 Has a Dirty Little Secret (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-su-57-has-a-dirty-little-secret/ar-AA16lVtL?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=050cb2b2ab374a34abcd00f32605487e&ei=12)
(Caveat: it's built, as far as I can tell, from Open Source material so there may be some assertions that, in the end, do not hold water)

[albatross]

Did a disappearing act before heading south from the boundary and rejoining airways,
Might be a change of underwear followed by "no tea or biscuits" interview later. :eek:

IG “Children of the Magenta Line”
Look for it on UTube.

[NutLoose]

These Russian railways appear to be having problems, yet another train has derailed in the same region as before.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653469095403180035?cxt=HHwWhsC-6bfYpvItAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653469095403180035?cxt=HHwWhsC-6bfYpvItAAAA

[NutLoose]

Hitler towards the end used to move imaginary armies around the map conquering territories as well

https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1653334765326700546

https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1653334765326700546

[ORAC]

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1653432094046195712?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


The Moscow Times: Russian state propaganda has been instructed to prepare the population for defeat in Ukraine's counteroffensive.

The Kremlin has issued new instructions to propagandists ahead of Ukraine's counterattack. According to the instructions, the state media should not reassure Russians by telling them that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are unprepared, the Meduza news agency quoted its sources in the presidential administration.

On the contrary, propagandists are required "not to lower expectations" about the announced counterattack and to emphasize that NATO countries supply Ukraine with weapons and support it in every possible way.

According to the sources, the AP expects that this approach will make it easier for the population to accept Russia's possible defeat. If Ukraine recovers any territories, Russians will be told that this happened thanks to the "huge efforts of the West," which it "concentrated on the front."

If the counteroffensive is unsuccessful, citizens will be told that "the army skillfully repelled a superior attack," and the price of that victory will increase dramatically, the sources add...

[NutLoose]

It appears the Pope is now trying to stick his oar into the peace process though not invited too by Ukraine. Short of **** orf from Ukrainian territory and don’t come back and recompense them for the damage and losses, I cannot see anything else being acceptable.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653291350782095361?cxt=HHwWgsC9mavu1fEtAAAA

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653291350782095361?cxt=HHwWgsC9mavu1fEtAAAA

[BEagle]

According to sources:

Pope Francis says he is willing to travel to Ukraine, which is under attack from Russia, but only on the condition that he can also travel to Moscow. "I will go to both places or to neither," the head of the Catholic Church said in an interview with the March 11 edition of Argentinian newspaper La Nacion. War in Ukraine could only be ended through dialogue and concrete peace initiatives, he said.

[NutLoose]

Holy Cr@p and this is on Russian TV!!!

Truth is being told

https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1653184747911127051

https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1653184747911127051

[NutLoose]

I don’t know whether to be flattered or not, a Russian propagandist says that now Russia is pally with China, a Chinese Russian combined force could defeat Britain… He obviously thinks Russia or China wouldn’t be capable on their own.
:}
https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1653324926705647616?cxt=HHwWgIC2qduQ5fEtAAAA
https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1653324926705647616?cxt=HHwWgIC2qduQ5fEtAAAA

[Winemaker]

Holy Cr@p and this is on Russian TV!!!

Truth is being told



https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1653184747911127051
Unfortunately that clip seems to be from 2015, not 2023.

[NutLoose]

Damn.. sorry. :(

Another oil storage tank hit in the Sevastopol region.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653639968223293440?cxt=HHwWgMCzxcWy9PItAAAA

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653639968223293440?cxt=HHwWgMCzxcWy9PItAAAA

A Russian attack appears to have hit a Ukrainian one though

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653645267168645121?cxt=HHwWgsC-4f3m9vItAAAA

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653645267168645121?cxt=HHwWgsC-4f3m9vItAAAA

[NutLoose]

Someone may have dropped a cigarette in a Russian hangar.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653648924861779968?cxt=HHwWgMC-2fG7-PItAAAA

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653648924861779968?cxt=HHwWgMC-2fG7-PItAAAA

and another airfield hit possibly damaging a Russian AN124

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653642154009325568?cxt=HHwWgMCz9eKx9fItAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653642154009325568?cxt=HHwWgMCz9eKx9fItAAAA

[Herod]

I don’t know whether to be flattered or not, a Russian propagandist says that now Russia is pally with China, a Chinese Russian combined force could defeat Britain… He obviously thinks Russia or China wouldn’t be capable on their own.
:}
Let's be flattered, Nutty. Even China on its own can't defeat Britain, but requires the aid of a minor Eastern-European country.

[Beamr]

Zelenskyi is visiting Finland today

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653716725605515265

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653716725605515265

[NutLoose]

Strong bits of wood. They have a heck of a lot of weight sitting on them.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/360x360/image_d37136892965d8e52b219bcebf98e0fd901af0db.png


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[NutLoose]

It's only taken Russia a year to figure out they are targetting the wrong targets.... Damn, let's hope it is to late to cause any real damage, having expended most of their missiles etc...

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1653675692783968256?cxt=HHwWgICxof7RhPMtAAAA

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1653675692783968256?cxt=HHwWgICxof7RhPMtAAAA

[NutLoose]

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/900x900/image_e41efc2f7a77b2e763ad2e6a6e0aa1222e87f496.png

[Wokkafans]

Perhaps the original plan was to try to freeze the general population out during the Winter? Now that's failed, move onto targets related to and supporting any new Ukrainian offence?

It's only taken Russia a year to figure out they are targetting the wrong targets.... Damn, let's hope it is to late to cause any real damage, having expended most of their missiles etc...

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1653675692783968256?cxt=HHwWgICxof7RhPMtAAAA

[ORAC]

Kremlin under drone attack… :}

https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1653734342626091011?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A



https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1920x1080/image_3092b26fbe1a3ed5002187e8b4605a30d247aee4.jpeg

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1653734211419766784?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


​​​​​​​"Putin in good health after drone attack on the Kremlin" is not necessarily a good headline for Putin...

[TWT]

Russia accused Ukraine on Wednesday of attacking the Kremlin with drones overnight in a failed bid to kill President Vladimir Putin

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-ukraine-attacked-kremlin-with-drones-failed-bid-kill-putin-ria-2023-05-03/

[Sepp]

Looking at the big flash in ORAC's post, and recalling pictures posted earlier of anti-air assets being craned onto tall buildings, I am tempted to ponder "wat air defence doing?"

[pasta]

"The Russian side reserves the right to take retaliatory measures where and when it sees fit."
What are they going to do? Launch missiles against Ukraine? Invade?

[ex fat repair team]

Looking at the big flash in ORAC's post, and recalling pictures posted earlier of anti-air assets being craned onto tall buildings, I am tempted to ponder "wat air defence doing?"

Ref, footage on BBC news web site. Strange that 2 people are walking up the dome steps at the same time, and some one happens to be videoing it.

[NutLoose]

Mr Sensible is talking again.

https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1651478956225200128?cxt=HHwWgICwvYvXnestAAAA

https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1651478956225200128?cxt=HHwWgICwvYvXnestAAAA

[NutLoose]

Possibly a false flag to justify other Russian actions? Ukraine of course denies it, they must have seen the no flying drones sign and realised they would be liable for a fine..

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1653747988412391427?cxt=HHwWhoCz1ZLCpfMtAAAA

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1653747988412391427?cxt=HHwWhoCz1ZLCpfMtAAAA


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[meleagertoo]

Ref, footage on BBC news web site. Strange that 2 people are walking up the dome steps at the same time, and some one happens to be videoing it.
Clearly not footage from a fixed camera, and the scene seems to pan slightly exactly in sync with the arrival in frame of the drone just as if the operator was anticipating its arrival.
I call maskirovka.
Is this going to be an excuse to bomb Zelensky's palace, or even his person?
Hoperfully other footage will come out from security cameras that can clarify the flightline of the drone and whether it was actually heading towards the Kremlin and this video isn't a cleverly set up angle to make it appear so.

[Wokkafans]

Footage of the first strike:

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1653734878075142150?s=20

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1653734878075142150?s=20

Footage of the second larger strike here: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/136lcmu/second_drone_attack_on_kremlin_16_minutes_after/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[Sepp]

Footage from a different camera:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1653752188508811267

https://twitter.com/i/status/1653752188508811267

[Ninthace]

Ref, footage on BBC news web site. Strange that 2 people are walking up the dome steps at the same time, and some one happens to be videoing it.
I think those 2 people are flags.

[Imagegear]

How do both drones manage to catch the identical "support wire" for the "proper" flag, both exploding some two or more meters past the "proper" flag pole, 2 hours apart. Nope, its all faked.

IG

[macmp419]

Perfectly captured from every angle, and with the detonation of a small firework. Hardly an assassination attempt (if it was - poor effort and must try harder). I am smelling something and it is not sheep or cows...

Could somebody zoom in on the flag and see if has "FALSE" emblazoned upon it.

[pasta]

Medvedev's take:
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1653799406775283720

1. If Russia were capable of assassinating Zelensky, they would have done it already
2. The drone could only be considered an assassination attempt if the person flying it genuinely thought that Putin spends his nights sitting on the roof

[NutLoose]

I seem to remember they tried that several times before.

[NutLoose]

Now the propagandists blame us as the reason behind all the expelled Diplomats across the world, just as well they couldn’t invade us without the help of China

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1651168502949052419?cxt=HHwWhoC8qarAkOotAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1651168502949052419?cxt=HHwWhoC8qarAkOotAAAA

[Captivep]

Now the propagandists blame us as the reason behind all the expelled Diplomats across the world, just as well they couldn’t invade us without the help of China



https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1651168502949052419?cxt=HHwWhoC8qarAkOotAAAA
Quite flattering really, isn't it?

[NutLoose]

So there were to climbers on the Kremlin dome, they were on the way up after the first strike and were seen as the second one hit.

https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1653761880144396288?cxt=HHwWgIC2keDqq_MtAAAA

https://twitter.com/kromark/status/1653761880144396288?cxt=HHwWgIC2keDqq_MtAAAA

The first drone hit from the opposite direction, film here.

https://twitter.com/kromark

https://twitter.com/kromark

[Video Mixdown]

Now the propagandists blame us as the reason behind all the expelled Diplomats across the world, just as well they couldn’t invade us without the help of China.
​​​​
Good to hear that their Ambassador and Diplomats in London are having a miserable time.

[bugged on the right]

Very pleased my country is considered to be foe number one. Had a bad moment when I couldn't advance past page 15 but deleting cookies fixed it. Keep up the great work Nutloose, ORAC and others. Thanks.

[_Agrajag_]

Definitely something odd about those drone strikes. Are we expected to believe that a couple of slow flying drones travelled around 300 miles across Russia from the Ukrainian border without being detected?

Someone smarter than me could work out the speed from the video frame rate. My guess is no more than 100kts from just eyeballing it. They look to be flying very slowly.

Perhaps Russia might want to explain how their state of the art air defence systems failed to detect these drones for the three hours or so they were flying over Russian territory.

[Lonewolf_50]

a. Sun Tzu would probably advocate the strategy of taking out the enemy king/leader in order to end a war.

b. Clausewitz would (perhaps) identify Putin as a center of gravity (strategic CoG in any case) worth targeting with the aim of ending the war by removing the center of gravity.

From the perspective of an objective analysis (if indeed Ukraine sent in a few drones to try and take out the head of government) this was an attempt at a decapitation strike that was worth trying if you are Ukraine.

(Yes, it's been about 20 years since the attempted decapitation strikes in Baghdad were being bandied about/discussed, etc)







[Tartiflette Fan]

a. Sun Tzu would probably advocate the strategy of taking out the enemy king/leader in order to end a war.

b. Clausewitz would (perhaps) identify Putin as a center of gravity (strategic CoG in any case) worth targeting with the aim of ending the war by removing the center of gravity.

From the perspective of an objective analysis (if indeed Ukraine sent in a few drones to try and take out the head of government) this was an attempt at a decapitation strike that was worth trying if you are Ukraine.

(Yes, it's been about 20 years since the attempted decapitation strikes in Baghdad were being bandied about/discussed, etc)



Since the Kremlin has a footprint of approx 3 000 000 ft2 and is up to six stories tall, unless Putin follows an ironly rigid timetable and spends time on the roof, I don't think anyone (outside Russia ) would be thinking about assassination.

[meleagertoo]

If these strikes really are not Ruzzian maskirovka then the planners of the upcoming Great Patriotic Goose-Stepping Festivals are going to be developing paranoid headaches.
If only sleepers/partisans could replicate this harmless little display over Red Square as the missiles or massed hordes of cannon-fodder are trundling! The psychological anticipation that they might would be immensely powerful in days to come. Just 'if'.
Sweat, you barstewards, sweat!

[GlobalNav]

Now the propagandists blame us as the reason behind all the expelled Diplomats across the world, just as well they couldn’t invade us without the help of China
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1651168502949052419?cxt=HHwWhoC8qarAkOotAAAA

The accusation is a mark of honor to the UK. I’d also like to be known as an enemy of the evil aggressor and war criminal.

[NutLoose]

Dukem Nukem is about to have a coronary over the attack on the Kremlin…. It makes my heart good to see, it makes his fit to burst. :E

https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1653843657944977410?cxt=HHwWhMC-neyC0fMtAAAA

https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1653843657944977410?cxt=HHwWhMC-neyC0fMtAAAA

[NutLoose]

Images of the roof damage, and what looks like a temporary patch.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/900x710/image_ad7246ea38a49e450192b8a70987111345f9e78a.jpeg

[tdracer]

If the real intent of the drone attack was to cause human casualties, you'd think they'd aim for something other than the room. Like maybe a doorway?
I smell a false flag.

[fdr]

It appears the Pope is now trying to stick his oar into the peace process though not invited too by Ukraine. Short of **** orf from Ukrainian territory and don’t come back and recompense them for the damage and losses, I cannot see anything else being acceptable.



https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1653291350782095361?cxt=HHwWgsC9mavu1fEtAAAA

Wasn't aware that the Vatican City had been criminally attacked by Russia, had it's population murdered in cold blood, captives beheaded, property stolen. Must have slept through that bit. Having a direct line to the boss probably helps with negotiating things..... can they please get the boss to fail the window catches on Vlads apartment!

Medvedev's take:
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1653799406775283720

1. If Russia were capable of assassinating Zelensky, they would have done it already
2. The drone could only be considered an assassination attempt if the person flying it genuinely thought that Putin spends his nights sitting on the roof

they have been trying to do that since Feb 24 2022..... how's that working out for you so far Vlad.

Seems odd that the Ukrainians would go to al the effort of flying a drone from Ukraine to the Kremlin, and then forgetting to put any bang in it. Russia has a single play book, written by Potemkin, all smoke, mirrors and own goals. 191,940 fewer voters for Vlad so far. Well done!

Vlad doesn't get it yet that every Ukrainian on the field is now a Zelenskyy, just like all the #200 and #300's of the criminal forces of Russia are Vladomir's. The Ukrainians holding out in Bakhmut aren't there at gun point, they are there to kill invaders, and just like Zelenskyy, they aren't asking for a ride, they just want the tools to do pest control.

Dukem Nukem is about to have a coronary over the attack on the Kremlin…. It makes my heart good to see, it makes his fit to burst. :E



https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1653843657944977410?cxt=HHwWhMC-neyC0fMtAAAA

He's been at the magic mushrooms again. Could not find a cogent train of thought in his diatribe, he seems to be taking on attributes from Tucker. 1+1= 191,940.

Let's be flattered, Nutty. Even China on its own can't defeat Britain, but requires the aid of a minor Eastern-European country.

But China, and the second best army in Ukraine?

The concept seems to be in line with the invective the Mr Nukem Dukem brings forth like a fur ball in his incessant white noise parroting Kremlin propaganda. Russia doesn't need to look to the east for help, they need to prepare for the east evicting Russian speakers from the Chinese territory that has been assimilated into the Russian federation, where China didn't have a vote. Vlad has given Xi the vote to recover those lands that have been squandered by Russia in the interim.

Russia is heading towards their historic dimensions, when they were a corridor between St Pete's and Moscow.

[Buster Hyman]

If the real intent of the drone attack was to cause human casualties, you'd think they'd aim for something other than the room. Like maybe a doorway?
I smell a false flag.
Or a window. Those are incredibly dangerous in the USSR…I mean, the RF.

[unmanned_droid]

whatever crashed in to the Kremlin building had a range of around 10-15 miles based on its size. UAVs coming in from Ukraine would need to be much larger to carry the required fuel.

As a result of these antics there could be some v serious attempts on Kyiv tonight.

Currently this guy:

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1653902666077175810

is getting reports in of possible movements of nuclear weapons and prep for missile strikes of various types as I type. The guy in the video seems to be ex FSB who has leaked a lot in the past. He's doxxing lots of long range aviation aircrew and associated personnel to prove that they cannot hide if they use a nuke.

[Sue Vêtements]

It looked more like a cheap firework that an actual attack

I'd be pretty pissed off if I was Ukraine and I'd gone to the trouble of planning that and that's all I got out of it. OTOH If I was Russia, I wouldn't want to do too much actual damage, so this would be about right. Maybe choose a part of the roof that already needed replacing

...and why would it explode in mid air and not on contact

[jolihokistix]

Maybe they were just sighting runs to see/show how accurate they could be.

[megan]

False flag was my initial take, stir up the locals, those bar steward Ukrainians are trying to kill you, stir up the patriotic feelings and get a good turn out for the parade.Maybe they were just sighting runs to see/show how accurate they could beNow there's a thought, hope they can pull it off if that's the case.

[NutLoose]

Being behind the mayday parade stands it would be pretty hard to cover it up in the filming of the show if the roof burnt.

[NutLoose]

Hmmm

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1653836254427881498

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1653836254427881498

[Winemaker]

whatever crashed in to the Kremlin building had a range of around 10-15 miles based on its size. UAVs coming in from Ukraine would need to be much larger to carry the required fuel.

As a result of these antics there could be some v serious attempts on Kyiv tonight.

Currently this guy:

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1653902666077175810

is getting reports in of possible movements of nuclear weapons and prep for missile strikes of various types as I type. The guy in the video seems to be ex FSB who has leaked a lot in the past. He's doxxing lots of long range aviation aircrew and associated personnel to prove that they cannot hide if they use a nuke.
Re-posted to make the link visible.

[NutLoose]

I rather like this.

https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1645782396946489344

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1645782396946489344

[NutLoose]

Holy ****! From the 337 post, let’s hope it’s all fake as I have work in the morning ;)


​​​​​​​From #WindofChange (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WindofChange?src=hashtag_click) right now about Russian bombers getting equipped with nuclear warheads: "There is no clear strategy, the aim is to terrify and cause chaos. The Service (FSB) is being redirected to counter a coup. The wheels have come off and no one has any clue of what's going on. The documents have not been completed for the "red button" mechanism. (for nuclear launch) This is raising the stakes and insanity."
12:52 am · 4 May 2023 (https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1653910424046428160)
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​​​​​​​To Osechkin right now: "Hello, my name is ____, 47th Air Regiment Military Unit 105117, 105th Air Division. I am a Tu-22M3 bomber pilot. They are trying to force me to launch Kalibr missiles at downtown Kyiv. Every mechanic knows - those are nuclear warheads. Takeoff around 5am. There are some delays due to mechanics, but overall everything appears to going according to plan. I will not launch these missiles. Worst case - I will launch them toward the ocean, or destroy myself along with the plane. Than you for opening my eyes to the criminality of this war. Glory to Ukraine"
1:06 am · 4 May 2023 (https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1653914002978910209)
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[megan]

From Ward Carroll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNWL8n1i5cY

[Load Toad]

Noting better than to give an advance warning of a surprise attack

[ORAC]

Good well researched thread on the Kremlin attack.

Two drones, first hit the dome and started the fire - which is why men were climbing the roof and people videoing them when the second drone arrived.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1653836377891414040.html

[fdr]

Holy ****! From the 337 post, let’s hope it’s all fake as I have work in the morning ;)

Time to remind Vader of the consequences of more crimes against humanity.... He's giving evil a bad name.

[fdr]

Holy ****! From the 337 post, let’s hope it’s all fake as I have work in the morning ;)

Voldemort is playing with fire. His Maskirovska is as inept as everything else he has done since 1999. The rhetoric on Nukes is reckless. Does he assume that there are no consequences from genocide to attempt to achieve his criminal enterprises goal, that would result in Russia being a pariah state for centuries?
The nukes blow back on Russia and China, that will be about as smart as his musing in February about wanting to move his drinks cabinet 6" further to the west.

T28, Russia is a terrorist state, removing posts that state that doesn't alleviate the fact that Russia is a terrorist state, and the point that has arisen here is due to the spineless insanity that passes for UN deliberations. Article 27(3), Russia has no say in the UNSC, never has since 2014 in respect of Ukraine and the criminal actions of Russia..

If, and I hope they do not, if Russia goes feral and drops sunshine, then they need to be evicted from civilized interaction, end of story. There is no moral equivalency to WW2 here, Russia is just threatening to add to their unspeakable crimes, to support an evil short of stature crim.
"IMHO"
Kudos to a pilot who tells his govt NYET

Voldemort's 4 year old petulance and dummy spits never cease to entertain. They put on a false flag (when didn't they) and then Voldemort whines about it being an assassination attempt..I recall the plan for attacking Kyiv was to assassinate a true leader, V. Zelenskyy... Which one is the comedian?

[ORAC]

https://twitter.com/teoyaomiquu/status/1653926244646285314?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


According to russian news agency TASS, an oil refinery in Ilskiy is burning after a strike by a UAV.

Google map link: https://goo.gl/maps/S8PDkfLoFA3Ya4wa9

Bavovna in russia has begun again.

​​​​​​​

[ORAC]

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1653983865449398273?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


Ukrainian Air Force reported that Russian forces have launched up to 24 Shahed-136/131 attack drones from Bryansk region and the eastern coast of the Azov Sea in the early hours of May 4.

​​​​​​​Eighteen drones were downed by Ukraine's air defense in the northern, central, and southern parts of Ukraine.

[golfbananajam]

Since the Kremlin has a footprint of approx 3 000 000 ft2 and is up to six stories tall, unless Putin follows an ironly rigid timetable and spends time on the roof, I don't think anyone (outside Russia ) would be thinking about assassination.

For thos who have never been inside it, this is the office block where Putin has his office, most of the other buildings are churches and the public are allowed (or at least used to be allowed) to walk round the grounds
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1920x1080/100_0136_51163d8b0c38b0ecef97330b880b5e3dfd6888a1.jpg
Putin's office is behind one of these windows
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1920x1080/100_0135_70cba03f253b6ceda5521821d1a79ca386e8eca6.jpg

[fdr]

For thos who have never been inside it, this is the office block where Putin has his office, most of the other buildings are churches and the public are allowed (or at least used to be allowed) to walk round the grounds

Putin's office is behind one of these windows



Putin has to worry about the attack from inside, that is has the highest pK.

[Low average]

There is a lot of theatre in this so called "assassination" Russian flags everywhere, a camera that shifts to watch the drone detonate, a slightly scorched Kremlin roof and flag. Amateur theatre at best - looks very Russian to me.

In my opinion, the most likely scenario is that it was the FSB. Their aim would be to justify the assassination of Zelensky, mass mobilization, or to escalate the conflict - all without putting Putin in any danger.

They'll look for any way of squirming out of this situation they've created. This is one possible way.

[melmothtw]

There is a lot of theatre in this so called "assassination" Russian flags everywhere, a camera that shifts to watch the drone detonate, a slightly scorched Kremlin roof and flag. Amateur theatre at best - looks very Russian to me.

In my opinion, the most likely scenario is that it was the FSB. Their aim would be to justify the assassination of Zelensky, mass mobilization, or to escalate the conflict - all without putting Putin in any danger.

They'll look for any way of squirming out of this situation they've created. This is one possible way.

The CCTV camera that took the footage does not shift, the person recording the CCTV footage on their iPhone shifts to focus in on the exploding drone.

[Pali]

Longer video depicting the reality of trench warfare.

https://twitter.com/INTobservers/status/1653871857878089730

[NutLoose]

Longer video depicting the reality of trench warfare.

https://twitter.com/INTobservers/status/1653871857878089730


So the link shows, thanks for posting, hope that guy is ok.

[fdr]

Longer video depicting the reality of trench warfare.

https://twitter.com/INTobservers/status/1653871857878089730

Patriots every last one of them. Our politicians need to understand what their vacillation is causing in real terms. We suffer increased inflation, they are doing well to survive the day fighting off criminal invaders, while our politicians whine about their constraints. Having these heroes do our job is a lot more cost effective than dealing with Voldamort again in 5 years time, along with the emperor of Qin.

[Low average]

The CCTV camera that took the footage does not shift, the person recording the CCTV footage on their iPhone shifts to focus in on the exploding drone.
Thanks melmothtw, out of interest how can you tell that this is footage of a screen rather than footage taken through a glass window?

[NutLoose]

List of losses so far, but needs to add, plus several tiles missing off the Kremlins roof

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1080x1080/image_239b77dd706b6acd7c4a3c38eb872b4a2f648a42.png

[NutLoose]

Hahahahahaha……… that’s made my day, especially as I expected to have the day off to sunbathe under the glow of a nuclear blast after last nights gloom and doom of jets in the air armed to the hilt


https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1654093571945897992?cxt=HHwWkIC90eDVwvQtAAAA

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1654093571945897992?cxt=HHwWkIC90eDVwvQtAAAA

[ORAC]

Information has appeared that the recent drone attack on the airfield in Bryansk region led to one An-124-100 plane being completely destroyed and a second being damaged.

The Russian air force started with no more than 12, they cannot be repaired in Russia.

[melmothtw]

Thanks melmothtw, out of interest how can you tell that this is footage of a screen rather than footage taken through a glass window?

It makes no sense that there were people in those offices at 2 am waiting to capture the event on video, and showing no reaction when a drone flew over the Kremlin and exploded (even for a false flag), and much more likely they were recording the footage from the CCTV cameras on the corner of the roof that they had already seen. Just IMO.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1793x838/rs_5ced07bdc493ff1c1d659213a538355d4de59400.jpg

[Wokkafans]

The Ukrainians having more success taking out a Russian drone over Kiev today:

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1654189231781101568?s=20

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1654189629497659400?s=20​​​​​​​

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1654189231781101568?s=20

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1654189629497659400?s=20

[melmothtw]

The Ukrainians having more success taking out a Russian drone over Kiev today:





https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1654189231781101568?s=20

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1654189629497659400?s=20


A Ukrainian TB2, from high rez photos of the incident.

[NutLoose]

Only flaw in that cunning plan was it was one of their own Bayraktar

[Wokkafans]

A Ukrainian TB2, from high rez photos of the incident.

Which is very similar in design to the Russian Luch Korsar . - I'm sure someone will be publishing pics of some debris soon :ok:.

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/corsair-korsar-unmanned-aerial-vehicle/

[NutLoose]

Almost all the holes lining up to make the perfect disaster.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1654050226657738752?cxt=HHwWgIC2id36rvQtAAAA

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1654050226657738752?cxt=HHwWgIC2id36rvQtAAAA

[Low average]

It makes no sense that there were people in those offices at 2 am waiting to capture the event on video, and showing no reaction when a drone flew over the Kremlin and exploded (even for a false flag), and much more likely they were recording the footage from the CCTV cameras on the corner of the roof that they had already seen. Just IMO.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1793x838/rs_5ced07bdc493ff1c1d659213a538355d4de59400.jpg
Oh, OK, on your last post it appeared that you knew somehow.

So you're saying that, after all the effort of planning and executing a false-flag, it makes no sense to have someone film it from a window because its a bit late? Isn't that the point?

[melmothtw]

Which is very similar in design to the Russian Luch Korsar . - I'm sure someone will be publishing pics of some debris soon :ok:.

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/corsair-korsar-unmanned-aerial-vehicle/

Sadly, it was quite certainly a TB2.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1280x1280/tb21_506c89e8e3cfcca764189147c67f361ffe8e671d.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1199x807/tb22_ae447ae8e3aa5c69e7169f3623d9377eee28bf19.jpg

Edited to add:

Christopher Miller on Twitter: "Now confirmed with two Ukrainian sources with direct knowledge plus Ukraine's Air Force statement: Drone shot down over Kyiv today was a Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2 that was out of control due to technical reasons. @FT https://t.co/gLhVnR6N6Z" / Twitter

[melmothtw]

Oh, OK, on your last post it appeared that you knew somehow.

So you're saying that, after all the effort of planning and executing a false-flag, it makes no sense to have someone film it from a window because its a bit late? Isn't that the point?

Not being in Moscow or Putin's inner circle, I 'know' as much as the next person.

For a false flag to stand up to any scrutiny, it has to be credible. It makes no sense to have a group of people in an office at 2 am, waiting for an attack they are not supposed to know is coming, and then displaying absolutely no emotion when a drone flies overhead and explodes over the Kremlin just across the square from them. Occam's Razor should point you in the direction of this being CCTV footage that they have filmed from a computer monitor.

[unmanned_droid]

Fortunately, it seems last nights little nuclear scare was probably BS.

[NutLoose]

There is putting out propaganda and there is putting out propaganda, but this just strikes me as over confidence, they know roughly the areas the HIMARS must be operating in so why post information on the fact they are using ex soviet bunkers to store them in,
I would imagine some Russian clerk is dusting off old locations of Soviet shelters in given areas to try to locate possible active sites.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-situation-report-himars-shown-being-stashed-in-soviet-bunker

[Winemaker]

There is putting out propaganda and there is putting out propaganda, but this just strikes me as over confidence, they know roughly the areas the HIMARS must be operating in so why post information on the fact they are using ex soviet bunkers to store them in,
I would imagine some Russian clerk is dusting off old locations of Soviet shelters in given areas to try to locate possible active sites.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-situation-report-himars-shown-being-stashed-in-soviet-bunker
It's also certainly possible he's lying, getting the Russkies to attack false targets.....

[The Helpful Stacker]

It's also certainly possible he's lying, getting the Russkies to attack false targets.....

Indeed.

It's not exactly a huge stretch to think that this could be a double bluff.

[NutLoose]

:)

now I realise both sides put out propaganda and what is happening on the ground to us western viewers is often fluid and possibly not accurate, so a lot of what we read or see can be taken with a pinch of salt, but one sometime has to wonder what these guys are on and where are they getting their information from,

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1654205665450106881?cxt=HHwWgoC9qbrS9fQtAAAA

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1654205665450106881?cxt=HHwWgoC9qbrS9fQtAAAA

[Sue Vêtements]

I think that 'drone attack' on the Kremlin is . . .





. . . wait for it . . .




. . . just a Potemkin Village!

:8

[megan]

https://twitter.com/AnonOpsSE/status/1654001717782933504/photo/1

[NutLoose]

Meanwhile our Favourite and mostly credible Russian propagandist appears to be flustered on Russian TV as to the Moscow attack and the amount of countermeasures Russia will now need to put in place to protect Moscow after 2 little drones visited.
Personally the good thing is it is on Russian TV, which must be a wake up call to the Moscow****es that what they have been fed for over a year is possibly all lies as Moscow is now being attacked and their safe little lives no longer are.

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1654187780417675266?cxt=HHwWhICzubTB7fQtAAAA

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1654187780417675266?cxt=HHwWhICzubTB7fQtAAAA

[Beamr]

Prickozhin is losing it over ammunition.

Oh dear. How sad. Nevermind.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1654263136529141766

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1654263136529141766

[ORAC]

https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1654384940392259584?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


​​​​​​​🔥 New day - new fire!

The Ilsky refinery in Russia 🇷🇺 is on fire AGAIN.

The refinery was allegedly AGAIN attacked by a drone.

By the way, this is the second attack in a week, the previous one was 2 days ago.

[Herod]

Prickozhin is losing it over ammunition.

Oh dear. How sad. Nevermind.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1654263136529141766

There is always the option of pulling his troops out.

[Herod]

Looks like he's taking my advice :ok: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65493008

[Beamr]

Looks like he's taking my advice :ok: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65493008
Better late than never!

[Tartiflette Fan]

Better late than never!

Can somebody tell me who is paying for PMC Wagner - ignoring the convicts obviously. They are referred to as a mercenary force and past reports of African involvement indicated that they were well-paid by Russian standards. Who then is paying them here ? Is it Prighozin himself speculating on prestige and money-making opportunities later ? It would make no sense for it to be the Russian Army who are apparently working to keep them short of supplies, so who is it ?

[jolihokistix]

PMC Wagner have long controlled the gold mines in Sudan.

[golfbananajam]

It makes no sense that there were people in those offices at 2 am waiting to capture the event on video, and showing no reaction when a drone flew over the Kremlin and exploded (even for a false flag), and much more likely they were recording the footage from the CCTV cameras on the corner of the roof that they had already seen. Just IMO.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1793x838/rs_5ced07bdc493ff1c1d659213a538355d4de59400.jpg


That's the GUM shopping Mall opposite the Kremlin, inside it looks like this
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1920x1080/100_0038_733c62fb8fd2925a9617f3221856145b0cbf4ef7.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1920x1080/100_0039_02c1bc523fd466d057d863049f0fc46374056fd6.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1920x1080/100_0041_9cb8ad2bb6891ebbc17fbf6cb046c01ef0b69a81.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1920x1080/100_0043_0b0182b10ad5b2ee4f89e631772ecc6f794939b5.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1920x1080/100_0040_9f1fe1bd2167586ecd7b65cb98f8fedfff32e7b7.jpg

[melmothtw]

That's the GUM shopping Mall opposite the Kremlin, inside it looks like this







Wasn't aware that was the GUM building, thanks. Even more unlikely there were people recording through the windows at 2 am.

[langleybaston]

That is alot of bandwidth up the Swannee

[MPN11]

That is alot of bandwidth up the Swannee
Yes, quoting without repeating all the images would be helpful.

[pasta]

Apparent Kinzhal interception:
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1654412040826507264

[Tartiflette Fan]

PMC Wagner have long controlled the gold mines in Sudan.

Thus meaning that Prighozin is financing his "war" himself ? If he has 20 000 paid fighters, that represents a pretty big monthly pay-roll. Since he apparently already had a seat at Putin's table pre-war, I wonder what prize he is aiming for ? The only one that seems to justify the bet would be Putin's chair, and that would be enormously dangerous as soon as Vlad realised this, however since he (Pr ) is still above ground, i have to think that is not the target.

EDIT: Won't these gold mines now be under threat from one side or the other in the current civil-war ? Ironic if that conflict were to have a major positive influence for Ukraine !

[sealo0]

Apparent Kinzhal interception:
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1654412040826507264
that’s a very manicured piece of lawn?

[Tartiflette Fan]

that’s a very manicured piece of lawn?

It says in the linked article that it fell in a "stadium".

[MPN11]

that’s a very manicured piece of lawn?

It says in the linked article that it fell in a "stadium".

It seems to be a remarkably gentle impact, though, and at a vey shallow angle. I'm not 100% convinced by that image.

[melmothtw]

It says in the linked article that it fell in a "stadium".

It did...
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1024x1280/f_c6c03e630c82bddb5d9c14dffe7fc4168cc4eb17.jpg

[HOVIS]

Thus meaning that Prighozin is financing his "war" himself ? If he has 20 000 paid fighters, that represents a pretty big monthly pay-roll. Since he apparently already had a seat at Putin's table pre-war, I wonder what prize he is aiming for ? The only one that seems to justify the bet would be Putin's chair, and that would be enormously dangerous as soon as Vlad realised this, however since he (Pr ) is still above ground, i have to think that is not the target.

EDIT: Won't these gold mines now be under threat from one side or the other in the current civil-war ? Ironic if that conflict were to have a major influence on Ukraine !
Is this how WWIII starts? Quietly effecting other minor nations and disturbing the status quo? The gathering storm as they say. 😔

[ACW342]

A short report from the BBCs Steve Rosenberg:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-65454203

A342

[NutLoose]

Report that Wagner will pull out of Bahkmut on the 10th May

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1654403153113096192?cxt=HHwWgIC9ieC5z_UtAAAA

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1654403153113096192?cxt=HHwWgIC9ieC5z_UtAAAA

[NutLoose]

This is something that Western tanks do not suffer from hence a lot of the training in the UK etc showed the tanks and SPA practicing reversing to get the troops aware and use to the fact that they can back up without exposing the tanks weak spots as our tanks can go backwards the same speeds nearly as fwd.

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1653086915531358233?cxt=HHwWsoC-8dHy-PAtAAAA.

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1653086915531358233?cxt=HHwWsoC-8dHy-PAtAAAA

[NutLoose]

Another Russian in full retreat, this time it's an MP against MP

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1654244069713821698?cxt=HHwWhIC2sfCNh_UtAAAA

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1654244069713821698?cxt=HHwWhIC2sfCNh_UtAAAA

Whooo... more punch ups, I would call it 2-0 to Ukraine

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1654196101052788736?cxt=HHwWgMCzgd6l8fQtAAAA

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1654196101052788736?cxt=HHwWgMCzgd6l8fQtAAAA

[NutLoose]

A Russian "Warehouse of fuels and lubricants burnt down, I would call it a warehouse in a very loose term, it looks like a typical Russian storage site, i.e dump it on the ground. 28 ish seconds in I actually saw a pallet!!! though it appeared to be dumped over the top of the goods :}

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1654441256334815232?cxt=HHwWgMCzmdPj4PUtAAAA

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1654441256334815232?cxt=HHwWgMCzmdPj4PUtAAAA

[NutLoose]

A brief Aviation inject..

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1654350458167898112?cxt=HHwWgMDRkcC-t_UtAAAA

https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1654350458167898112?cxt=HHwWgMDRkcC-t_UtAAAA

https://twitter.com/KpsZSU/status/1654033747946221571?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7 Ctwgr%5Etweet

https://twitter.com/KpsZSU/status/1654033747946221571?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7 Ctwgr%5Etweet

https://twitter.com/KpsZSU/status/1650421418218201090?cxt=HHwWhIC9qaPivOctAAAA

https://twitter.com/KpsZSU/status/1650421418218201090?cxt=HHwWhIC9qaPivOctAAAA

And finally another stunning PC wallpaper

https://twitter.com/KpsZSU/status/1653693408467189762/photo/1

https://twitter.com/KpsZSU/status/1653693408467189762/photo/1

[SOPS]

Keep up the good work!!

[NutLoose]

Russia is relocating people in the temporarily occupied Zaporizhzhia Region to the rear… does not ooze the signs of confidence in their ability to hold squat.


https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1654520414465400832?cxt=HHwWgIC9naHjhPYtAAAA

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1654520414465400832?cxt=HHwWgIC9naHjhPYtAAAA

[NutLoose]

If Wagner pull out the Chechens say they will replace them, that will be an interesting handover..

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1654526682416533505?cxt=HHwWgsC-jY3Qh_YtAAAA

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1654526682416533505?cxt=HHwWgsC-jY3Qh_YtAAAA

[NutLoose]

The Mayor of Mykolaiv Oblast says do not film the movement of equipment… so does that mean it’s being moved in Mykolaiv Oblast? :}
Hence by simply telling the world not to film it he is giving away its location?

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1654518581961322497?cxt=HHwWgsCzgcz4g_YtAAAA

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1654518581961322497?cxt=HHwWgsCzgcz4g_YtAAAA

[212man]

The Mayor of Mykolaiv Oblast says do not film the movement of equipment… so does that mean it’s being moved in Mykolaiv Oblast? :}
Hence by simply telling the world not to film it he is giving away its location?



https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1654518581961322497?cxt=HHwWgsCzgcz4g_YtAAAA
at least he’s wearing his seatbelt - a concept lost on UK politicians it seems!

[NutLoose]

The first of 80 Leopard 1A5’s will start being delivered from June 1st.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1654479126399467524?cxt=HHwWiIC2lf3_8fUtAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1654479126399467524?cxt=HHwWiIC2lf3_8fUtAAAA

[Tartiflette Fan]

If Wagner pull out the Chechens say they will replace them, that will be an interesting handover..



https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1654526682416533505?cxt=HHwWgsC-jY3Qh_YtAAAA

What total bloody nonsense. The Chechens have, until now, only been present in propaganda videos. There isn't a limit of numbers at the front: they could have been there fighting if they (their commanders ) had wanted that.

[212man]

What total bloody nonsense. The Chechens have, until now, only been present in propaganda videos. There isn't a limit of numbers at the front: they could have been there fighting if they (their commanders ) had wanted that.
and threatening to turn against the Russians if they don’t stop dissing their religion!

[Thud_and_Blunder]

A rather nice message from the Ukrainians to the UK on the eve of the Coronation:
link from reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/138qzmm/on_the_eve_of_the_historic_coronation_wed_like_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
...re the bit at the end; if they ask nicely they can have 2 of them for a very reasonable price (we might even pay them to take them off our hands - but don't tell WEBF)

[212man]

A rather nice message from the Ukrainians to the UK on the eve of the Coronation:
link from reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/138qzmm/on_the_eve_of_the_historic_coronation_wed_like_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
...re the bit at the end; if they ask nicely they can have 2 of them for a very reasonable price (we might even pay them to take them off our hands - but don't tell WEBF)

Zelensky was in The Hague (where I live) yesterday. It was impressive how low key it was. A bit of beefed up policing around the royal residence in the afternoon as we drove past. A couple of Marechaussee 139s heading off to Rotterdam The Hague airport late afternoon. A pity there was no opportunity to seem him.

[rattman]

Rumors are saying a joint defence assistance announcement between australia and the US last week of may. Rumors are saying either ex RAAF F-18's or more likely to me, Australia's M1A1 SA to be returned to the US then transferred to Ukraine and expedited delivery of some SEPv3's to australia for training. Others are saying Hawkai PMV but if so what the US has to do with them unless they are going to paying for some / all of them

https://au.news.yahoo.com/us-australian-military-aid-ukraine-014849576.html

[fdr]

Prigozin comments that without munitions he is senselessly wasting his troop, then one assumes that with ammunition, he is merely senselessly wasting his troops and ammunition. So far his talent has been to loose more people per metre than any other brilliant strategist since Stalingrad.

[Xeptu]

Devastated!! my russian visa got rejected. They said reason for visit, so I told them the International red square drone landing competition, They said there is no such competition, despite trying to assure them that there is, they said Visa Denied. (just for laughs)

[ORAC]

https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1654562498874359808?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


Why Russia is running out of shells?

Whereas the Wagner's shell hunger is real, ascribing it to the ill intentions of bureaucracy may be somewhat simplistic. It reflects the peculiar structure and the peculiar history of the Russian military manufacturing base…

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1654562498874359808.html
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[NutLoose]

Lurch pointing to thirty bodies of his Wagner troops killed in a day then swearing “Shoigu! Gerasimov! Where are the f*cking shells!”

I find it ironic that we can see the thirty odd blood stained bodies as he shines his torch around the gathering, yet someone has bleeped out the swearing so as to not offend the viewer.. unreal.

Again a quote only so it does not auto upload in case anyone does not wish to see bodies.

scroll down the link for film with subtitles.
https://twitter.com/Jack_Mrgln/status/1654254614114344962

[NutLoose]

Jesus, more incendiary shells on Bakhmut, it makes you wonder how they survive under that.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1654598259938033665?cxt=HHwWgoCwmbuWqPYtAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1654598259938033665?cxt=HHwWgoCwmbuWqPYtAAAA

[NutLoose]

It sounds like Lurch is making direct threats against Shoigu and Gerasimov now and he is admitting to tens of thousands of losses.


​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1654504614698385409?cxt=HHwWgoC85cvL_fUtAAAA

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1654504614698385409?cxt=HHwWgoC85cvL_fUtAAAA

[jolihokistix]

If you're out of HE shells, you use what you have, and let Russia take the blame. Two Ps game.

[NutLoose]

FFS OPSEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://twitter.com/TheIDGuyy/status/1654453334550478849

https://twitter.com/TheIDGuyy/status/165445333455047884

this however says not…

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/ju_ri_22

https://twitter.com/ju_ri_22

[Beamr]

Based on the reaction I'll bet that wasn't the first dud RPG for him.

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1654810092988948480

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1654810092988948480

[Winemaker]

From the New York Times today:
A car bombing wounded a prominent Russian nationalist writer and killed his driver on Saturday, state media reported, the second high-profile incident in Russia in less than a week that the authorities referred to as a terrorist act.

The state-run Tass news agency said that the writer, Zakhar Prilepin, was injured but conscious. Preliminary information showed that an explosive device had been planted under Mr. Prilepin’s car in the Russian city of Nizhny Novgorod, Tass reported (https://tass.com/emergencies/1614451), but did not say who was believed to be behind the attack.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/06/world/europe/russia-prilepin-bombing.html

[ORAC]

https://twitter.com/tendar/status/1654758455524065281?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


The temperature in Russian-occupied Crimea is rising. First, impacts with smoke plumes reported from Dzhankoi. Secondly, the Russian occupational authorities have closed the Kerch Bridge, as well as all ferries due to fears of attacks.



https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1200x542/image_864328083826f6738ac13bbf12fc3523a3d78dba.jpeg
​​​​​​​

[sangiovese.]

WSJ article today about the European pollution satellite is fascinating. Looks at industrial pollution hence activity. The decline in Russia has been huge in the last year

[Tartiflette Fan]

"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/05/06/ukraine-himars-software-rockets-russia-jam/ ( may be pay-walled )

Ukraine has been forced to update the software on its Himars rockets (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/10/06/ukraines-newest-weapon-special-himars-rockets-can-devastate/) because Russian forces have learned to jam their GPS guidance systems.

Considered one of Ukraine’s most impactful weapons and credited with helping to turn the tide of the war against Russia, Himars have become less effective over the past few months, CNN reported, citing a group of US, British and Ukrainian sources.

One Pentagon source described the effort to outwit Russian electronic warfare experts (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/02/23/west-scrambles-top-secret-jamming-technology-counter-russia/) who have been ordered to counter Himars as a game of “cat and mouse”.

The first Himars systems arrived in Ukraine in June 2022 and had an immediate impact on the battlefield (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/03/29/ukraine-himars-strike-melitopol-counter-offensive/). With a range of up to 60 miles – three times that of most regular artillery – they were able to hit Russian command headquarters and supply depots miles behind the front lines.

Military analysts said that Himars set up Ukraine’s rapid recapture of territory held by the Kremlin around Kharkiv in northeast Ukraine in August and Kherson city in Nov (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/11/11/ukraine-news-russia-war-kherson-retreat-latest-news-putin/)


An intelligence leak from the Pentagon this year showed that the US and Ukraine were giving “high priority” to tracking down and destroying Russian Zhitel R-330Zh jamming stations, which are often deployed in military trucks, ahead of Ukraine’s much-talked-about counteroffensive (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/05/05/ukraine-counteroffensive-russia-bakhmut-watch-defence-putin/).

“We will continue to advocate/recommend that those jammers are disrupted/destroyed to the maximum extent possible,” CNN quoted a document from the Pentagon intelligence leak as saying.

The Kyiv-based Ukrainskaya Pravada newspaper reported in April how Ukrainian special forces were mounting missions deep into Russia-controlled areas to hunt for jamming systems and relay their position back to artillery to destroy.

The leaked intelligence report also said that the jammers disabled other “smart munitions” such as GPS-guided shells fired by howitzers, and aerial bombs dropped by warplanes, that have been fitted with the US Joint Direct Attack Munition kit, which converts standard unguided bombs into precision weapons.

"

[B Fraser]

A rather nice message from the Ukrainians to the UK on the eve of the Coronation

And a rather nice message in return....

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1016x618/capture_542d733a5e0a7a51fd901ed9f11da41da0a6d6be.png

[Wokkafans]

And a rather nice message in return....

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1016x618/capture_542d733a5e0a7a51fd901ed9f11da41da0a6d6be.png

It looks like the carpets were also blue and gold in 1953, so I'm not sure to read too much into this:

https://universityofglasgowlibrary.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/templetonian-1953-coronation.pdf

[langleybaston]

Gracious me: I watched the whole Service and did not see the Ukrainian flag. I hope that many in the rest of the world saw the significance.

My small role today was bell-ringing: we rang two new call-changes, Orb and Sceptre, in addition to the traditional Kings sequence. The band dressed in blue white and red, and fizz was consumed ....... bell ringers have a long tradition of a tipple in the ringing chamber.

My third coronation.

[NutLoose]

Nice of him to add the phone number, address and email address, I wonder how many spoof calls, emails and pizza deliveries they are now getting.

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1654943467401887745?cxt=HHwWgoC-nZeUxfctAAAA

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1654943467401887745?cxt=HHwWgoC-nZeUxfctAAAA


on a side note pre their arrival.

​​​​​​​

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/Sputnik_Not/status/1654837529135177728?cxt=HHwWgICz0eH9lPctAAAA

[NutLoose]

Exodus starting?

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1654933098843209729?cxt=HHwWgoCwudO4wPctAAAA

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1654933098843209729?cxt=HHwWgoCwudO4wPctAAAA

[NutLoose]

Ooooeer. :E Burn baby burn

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1654924978356211715?cxt=HHwWhsC-jf3fvPctAAAA


https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1654924978356211715?cxt=HHwWhsC-jf3fvPctAAAA


​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1654941948313235456?cxt=HHwWgMDTkeG7xPctAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1654941948313235456?cxt=HHwWgMDTkeG7xPctAAAA

[NutLoose]

Interestingly post the Kremlin hit, propagandist’s are back tracking on the nuclear posturing, red lines and all, saying they should expect more UAV’s and they change nothing.

https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1654948437400473604?cxt=HHwWiMC-zby1x_ctAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1654948437400473604?cxt=HHwWiMC-zby1x_ctAAAA

[megan]

Subtle messaging from the US First Lady and her Grand daughter?

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/960x600/telemmglpict000334586352_trans_nvbqzqnjv4bqwrpot0qqeqqdo802h sc9mdyio9ap0e0iqhmr4f9exdy_jpeg_56eb9297aaf74303575b33e59d8e 600f55319d8c.jpg

[NutLoose]

I don’t know whether to call this just sad or a trial run of Russias future ability to host the 2014 Moscow may 9th parade

https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1654744393016901635?cxt=HHwWhoC8vcPQ6vYtAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1654744393016901635?cxt=HHwWhoC8vcPQ6vYtAAAA

[ORAC]

https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1654962737494016001?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


Prigozhin explicitly announced the termination of PMC Wagner's participation in the war effective immediately, citing the loss of battle-worthiness due to significant losses caused (he claims) by MoD's artificial throttling of supply of munitions to Wagner.

Says only 10% of required rounds provided to Wagner as of May 1 (down from 30% as of 2023), leading to unsustainable losses.

Says remaining troops will be parked for recovery and retraining at bases in Russia "until danger to Russia is gone"….

https://telegra.ph/Otvety-Evgeniya-Prigozhina-na-glavnye-voprosy-kotorye-est-u-obshchestva-05-06


https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1655102785191395329?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


​​​​​​​If you're confused about what all of this means, do not despair, you're not alone. I asked my long time Wagner pal. He goes: "I am asking this question myself, I cannot forecast what's happening next, all is unclear"…

[ORAC]

https://twitter.com/stateofukraine/status/1654905391216566274?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


Signs of 🇷🇺 preparing to leave Melitopol:
- 🇷🇺 passport office closed, equipment moved out, torn passports found.
- 🇷🇺 mil personnel seen switching to civilian clothing, discarded uniforms found in dumpsters.
- Deadly surprises left: mines attached to trees, ready to cause harm.

More signs of 🇷🇺 panicking: Massive queues at Chongar & Kalanchak checkpoints on the way to Crimea. Others already waiting for 5+ hours.

Vehicles with special permits & military personnel bypassing the queues. Reports suggest some trucks may carry stolen/looted goods from Ukraine.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1280x964/image_f20f269820986af9400d66756356fcf304f88a46.jpeg
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[NutLoose]

It appears Lurch and the Wagner may no longer be in favour, reports that if they try to retreat from Bahkmut, they will be destroyed. If that is the case one wonders if Lurch will turn his boys loose on the Russian army and Chechens.

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1655003993247191040

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1655003993247191040

[Beamr]

Gravy seal eats again.

https://twitter.com/jackryan212/status/1654982463460974593

https://twitter.com/jackryan212/status/1654982463460974593

[NutLoose]

Wow you need to watch this, the figures are staggering, as are some of the facts he mentions.

Wagner was having a complete turn over of troops in Bakhmut every 4 months due to killed and wounded, he has lost in total 170%.
some of the ammunition supplied was unserviceable class 4 which he was grateful for?

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1654537688874090498?cxt=HHwWhICwzeHQjPYtAAAA

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1654537688874090498?cxt=HHwWhICwzeHQjPYtAAAA

[fdr]

It appears Lurch and the Wagner may no longer be in favour, reports that if they try to retreat from Bahkmut, they will be destroyed. If that is the case one wonders if Lurch will turn his boys loose on the Russian army and Chechens.

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1655003993247191040

Wow, Lurch is going to be one grumpy zoid. Imagine, getting sideways with Z team just the way that he has been with his own troops. Shades of Stalingrad. Upside? lots of opportunity for promotion for those that survive the tiff.

As noted by the strategic mastermind, Lt Edmund Blackadder,
"god is very quick these days...!"

In the meantime, Rock Rachon calls it as he sees it with Dimmy Medvedev's latest distribe. Worth listening to, he has a very dry sense of humour.

https://youtu.be/QpYUPfTBmi8

[NutLoose]

Compare this to the UKs’s rail service!

https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1654110614778793985?cxt=HHwWgsC-0eO1yvQtAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/status/1654110614778793985?cxt=HHwWgsC-0eO1yvQtAAAA

[ORAC]

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/russian-su-35-tried-to-intercept-polish-l410-turbolet-over-the-black-sea/

Russian Su-35 intercepts Polish L410 TURBOLET over Black Sea

A Russian Su-35 fighter jet attempted to intercept the Polish Border Guard L410 TURBOLET aircraft participating in the MMO Western Black Sea 2023 mission.

This is a joint operation conducted by Romania and coordinated by Frontex. Poland, Spain, and Sweden participate in it, along with the European Maritime Safety Agency (EMSA) and the European Fisheries Control Agency (EFCA).

The incident occurred on Friday, May 5, at about 13:20 near the Romanian coast in the area designated for the mission.

The Russian Su-35 entered the MMO Western Black Sea 2023 mission zone in radio silence and carried out aggressive actions against the Polish aircraft.

The Polish Border Guard reported that the Russian fighter jet flew three times at a dangerous distance from the Polish L410 TURBOLET.

The crew noted that the distance was about 5 meters. Because of this, the Polish aircraft experienced severe turbulence. As a result, the crew lost altitude and partially lost control.

The plane was levelled and safely landed at Mihail Kogălniceanu International Airport, 20 km from the city of Constanta.

The Romanian Ministry of Defense (https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0382As8qjeWbdM1TuAV9n3UujsVhSqc9yn VmjNn4CRaRro24hjwKvmrBJXfibvmzWml&id=100064654003316&mibextid=Nif5oz) reported that two fighter jets of the Romanian and the Spanish Air Force were notified by NATO`s Combined Air Operations Centre in Torrejón and were ready to intervene in the incident.

“The aggressive actions of a military aircraft of the Russian Federation against an unarmed aircraft of the Frontex mission monitoring migration risk in the Black Sea is completely unacceptable. This incident is further evidence of the provocative approach of the Russian Federation in the Black Sea,” the Romanian Ministry of Defense stated….

[ORAC]

https://twitter.com/volodyatretyak/status/1655186960577703941?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


Igor Girkin is very pessimistic today. He says it is time to start thinking about preventing Russia from falling apart because military defeat is near.

Translation:

Regular readers and listeners should remember the assessment of the situation that I laid out (and expressed) last winter. One of the theses was: "If the necessary national measures for the successful conduct of the war are not taken before May, we will not be able to win this war.

I state: NO MEASURES HAVE BEEN TAKEN. Neither organizational nor personnel. The goals of the war have not been determined, and the inhabitants of the Planet of the Pink Ponies (PRP) have not understood that this war will be fought until one side is victorious.

Accordingly, since there is no goal, there is no strategy. No strategy - no conscious work on its implementation.

But the enemy has a strategy from the beginning and is being implemented with all its might. More and more successfully since the Kremlin is "playing giveaway" with an inexplicable enthusiasm and childlike confidence in the ultimate "contract" that is comfortable for the elderly Ponies, Elephants, and Unicorns.

Now we have to think about how to preserve the state, the country and the people in a situation of impending military defeat.

And, yes - even for a "worthy non-fatal defeat" (in which our enemies will be forced to abandon their plans for the complete fragmentation of Russia and the elimination of its sovereignty) we will have to fight long and hard. Harder and longer than it would have been if we had fought to win decisively from the outset.

And the longer the occupants of the PRP will linger in the "sweet languor" of confidence in their peaceful and happy old age (which has long come for most of the VIPs) - the less chance that in the end the Russian ship will manage to get out of the military storm and systemic crisis, without sinking (after a long and bloody troubles) into history.

[meleagertoo]

Let's hope these internal bombings, fires, accidents, inexplicable drone attacks are signs that Putain, Lurch and Scabby Eva are facing a popular backlash. it can't come too soon.
Only Ruzzia itself can defeat Ruzzia.

[_Agrajag_]

One thing we have little knowledge of is the extent to which many Russians are opposed to the actions of their government. Only clues we have are from the many tens of thousands that have fled Russia for places like Georgia, the handful of young Russian vloggers that try and give a more balanced view of Russian people and the increasing incidence of what look to be sabotage events. I don't believe Ukraine is behind the majority of these explosions and fires deep inside Russia. I think it's dissidents. We never get to hear about them though. The Russian government has a very effective media suppression organisation.

We look on some of its output as being crazy but a large proportion of older Russians believe every lie they are told. Maybe there will be another Russian revolution. Worries me if I'm honest. Much as Putin's downfall would be good for Ukraine it would plunge Russia back into the madness that followed the fall of the Soviet Union. That madness unleashed thousands of hardened criminals on the rest of the world. I fear another collapse would do the same but would be worse. All the very rich Russians that would be free from the control Putin exerts could cause mayhem around the globe.

[ORAC]

Frontex suspends patrolling Black Sea over incident with Russian fighter jet.

The European Border and Coast Guard Agency, known as Frontex, temporarily suspended its patrol mission over the Black Sea following the incident with the Russian fighter jet on May 5.

[meleagertoo]

Frontex suspends patrolling Black Sea over incident with Russian fighter jet.

The European Border and Coast Guard Agency, known as Frontex, temporarily suspended its patrol mission over the Black Sea following the incident with the Russian fighter jet on May 5.
Presumably until such time as all the "European" air 'forces' between them can manage to rumble up enough operational fighters to actually provide a Coast Guard and Border Patrol aircraft operating in free international airspace with an escort.
It doesn't send a very impressive message, does it?

[fdr]

Igor Girkin is very pessimistic today. He says it is time to start thinking about preventing Russia from falling apart because military defeat is near.



Girkin is unduly optimistic in the state of affairs of Russia IMHO. The potential for the acceleration of the collapse of the federation from Vlads vulgar vacation has already been highlighted, recall the conference last year where the vassal states ignored Russia? Note China and Kazakh voting in the UN on Russia's aggression? Vlad threw away the outlying member states youth to feed his ego, that comes with a cost. Vlad has shown his military prowess is about on a par with Lord Farquard, and he is limited to criminal acts rather than military tactics.

With or without F-16's (preferably with) Ukraine remains committed to the removal of it's pest infestation, whereas Russian air superiority amounts to crashing into UAVs and breaking international law with the TurboLet unlawful interference. On a par with Lukashonky's unlawful actions against a civil airliner some time ago.

A breakup of Russia will be pretty messy, it is 100 years overdue to get Moscow to stop abusing the satellite states for the myth of border security. The wash-up poor 91 was untidy, this time round, the world has a good idea of what is exported from Russia in times of stress. Russians broke this program, they get to have a fair bit of the lifting of fixing this one too. Russia will not accept guidance in their internal affairs, something that is overlooked when considering the mess that arose post 91, they need to get a Russian solution to a Russian problem.

[GlobalNav]

One thing we have little knowledge of is the extent to which many Russians are opposed to the actions of their government. Only clues we have are from the many tens of thousands that have fled Russia for places like Georgia, the handful of young Russian vloggers that try and give a more balanced view of Russian people and the increasing incidence of what look to be sabotage events. I don't believe Ukraine is behind the majority of these explosions and fires deep inside Russia. I think it's dissidents. We never get to hear about them though. The Russian government has a very effective media suppression organisation.

We look on some of its output as being crazy but a large proportion of older Russians believe every lie they are told. Maybe there will be another Russian revolution. Worries me if I'm honest. Much as Putin's downfall would be good for Ukraine it would plunge Russia back into the madness that followed the fall of the Soviet Union. That madness unleashed thousands of hardened criminals on the rest of the world. I fear another collapse would do the same but would be worse. All the very rich Russians that would be free from the control Putin exerts could cause mayhem around the globe.

Well, not to make light of the sacrifice, but unless the Russian people would be willing to stand up and stop what’s happening, it makes little difference what their opinion of it is. Standing by instead of standing up practically amounts to complicity. Again, I do not make light of the life and death stakes of standing up, but they would not be the first people of courage in history to do so.

[NutLoose]

They’re at it again with the nuke warnings etc and now the attack on the Kremlin was to take out the Nuke weapon control. It amazes me that you go to war with a country and that country fights back on your territory, they then call it terrorism, they seem to think a war should be fought on one side. Only.

https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1655297112416894984?cxt=HHwWkIC29YP95fgtAAAA

https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/status/1655297112416894984?cxt=HHwWkIC29YP95fgtAAAA

[NutLoose]

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1200x1200/image_f876432f209331ed3cd69b36ae8cc5980a507e9f.jpeg

[NutLoose]

U.K. provided AS-90’s at work.

https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1654731794686566405?cxt=HHwWioCzzZrz5PYtAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1654731794686566405?cxt=HHwWioCzzZrz5PYtAAAA

[ORAC]

Ukraine says it destroyed all 35 Iranian-made Shahed drones launched by Russia in a wave of attacks across the country early Monday.

In its usual morning update the General Staff of Ukraine’s Armed Forces said Russia (https://www.theguardian.com/world/russia) had also launched 16 missile strikes on cities and regions including Kharkiv, Kherson, Nikolaev and Odessa as well as 61 airstrikes.

[ORAC]

https://twitter.com/thestudyofwar/status/1655387451194523648?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


#Gerasimov's apparent need to negotiate with subordinate commanders and those commanders’ ability to force his hand suggests that chain of command problems are significantly impacting the Russian military’s ability to conduct coherent theater-wide operations.…

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1655387451194523648.html

[ORAC]

https://twitter.com/natalkakyiv/status/1655331444447649793?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


“It's not the Special Military Operation. It's a horrific war.” says Russian oligarch Andrey Kovalev.

Hmm... Looks like they are beginning to suspect something…..

https://twitter.com/teoyaomiquu/status/1655430017239662597?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A
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[NutLoose]

Transnistria has asked Russia to increase the number of “peacekeepers” on the territory, just how they would get them there would be interesting. They must see the writing on the wall too.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1655473862740525058?cxt=HHwWhIC-uaCttvktAAAA

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1655473862740525058?cxt=HHwWhIC-uaCttvktAAAA

[NutLoose]

If this is true, it sounds like Prigozhin is having the power he once held cut out from under him.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1655312331235098626?cxt=HHwWhIC8-fDy7PgtAAAA

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1655312331235098626?cxt=HHwWhIC8-fDy7PgtAAAA

[jolihokistix]

Transnistria has asked Russia to increase the number of “peacekeepers” on the territory, just how they would get them there would be interesting. They must see the writing on the wall too.



https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1655473862740525058?cxt=HHwWhIC-uaCttvktAAAA
Transnistria has too much old ammunition stored to guard safely, one of the largest dumps in Europe.
Russia has too little ammunition.
Russia has been unable to link up through Odesa as promised.
I think I spot a problem.

[NutLoose]

The Russian evacuations may be a ruse to move troops under a humanitarian shield

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1655232881403232256?cxt=HHwWgICwyaXiyPgtAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1655232881403232256?cxt=HHwWgICwyaXiyPgtAAAA

[NutLoose]

Yet another Ukrainian invention a self propelled machine gun system.

https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1655268273334657024?cxt=HHwWgICxgbDu2PgtAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1655268273334657024?cxt=HHwWgICxgbDu2PgtAAAA

[NutLoose]

It looks like Ukraine lost another Stormer :( do you think it hit a mine first as the field track looks disrupted where it pulled off. At least the crew appear to have got clear.
I see of late we appear to be sending a small number of extra ones to Ukraine, possibly to replace those lost.


https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1655190114790780928?cxt=HHwWgMC9vfmotfgtAAAA

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1655190114790780928?cxt=HHwWgMC9vfmotfgtAAAA


.

[NutLoose]

More Ukrainian ingenuity, modifying / old T62.

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1655284232720113665?cxt=HHwWgoCz2aqP4PgtAAAA

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1655284232720113665?cxt=HHwWgoCz2aqP4PgtAAAA

[NutLoose]

More Ukrainian “toys”

https://twitter.com/kyivnotkievch/status/1654419223622320128

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/kyivnotkievch/status/1654419223622320128

[NutLoose]

Anyone, any idea???

https://twitter.com/MARTINR08513557/status/1655294154228875270

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/MARTINR08513557/status/1655294154228875270

[NutLoose]

The tank crew must have just got their call up papers to go to Ukraine.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/680x452/image_019473c8310d7a3ca797d10e830d75d796ae2634.jpeg

[Expatrick]

At least that tank is more modern than the T54s allegedly being prepared for deployment in Ukraine!

[Dan Gerous]

At least that tank is more modern than the T54s allegedly being prepared for deployment in Ukraine!

And the cardboard reactive armour comes as standard.

[T28B]

Just a note: the JB thread is where the purely political posts are better received.
I moved a few.
Carry on.

[NutLoose]

Croatian Mi-8’s have arrived.

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1655582954532356096?cxt=HHwWgIC-0Z375_ktAAAA

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1655582954532356096?cxt=HHwWgIC-0Z375_ktAAAA

[albatross]

Moral appears high in the upper ranks but low in the tanks! “Mama wants a new Lada!”
The tank crew must have just got their call up papers to go to Ukraine.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/680x452/image_019473c8310d7a3ca797d10e830d75d796ae2634.jpeg

[ORAC]

BREAKING: The Red Cross confirms that Russia destroyed its Odesa warehouse in a missile strike. The 1,000 square meter site contained humanitarian aid and will lead to a disruption of projects.

No Red Cross personnel were present in the warehouse but Russia's offensive against food and humanitarian supplies in Ukraine continues.

[NutLoose]

Or…. Let us in so we can loot your place when we have you out of the building..

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1655610389655085057?cxt=HHwWgoCznZW49PktAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1655610389655085057?cxt=HHwWgoCznZW49PktAAAA

[NutLoose]

More on the Croatian Mi-8

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1655585398762926084?cxt=HHwWiMCzycCJ6fktAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1655585398762926084?cxt=HHwWiMCzycCJ6fktAAAA

[meleagertoo]

One can only relish the fear, trepidation and now sheer paranoia with which this once great nation will be anticipating events of May 9 tomorrow, the traditional day for their vast bombastic display of military might (or rather, military probably can't) in the aftermath of recent events.
The sight of a real disruption would be a major triumph and highlight for humanity, if only with some drones loaded with yellow and blue paint, hurting no-one...What a gigantic coup that would be!

Sweat, Orcs. Sweat.

[NutLoose]

Maybe it's a phosphorous weapon? I heard there is such a thing.

welcome to the forums Ricardo, I don’t think it is, this is a phosphorous weapon in use.

https://twitter.com/SOF_UKR/status/1654567844053483522

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/SOF_UKR/status/1654567844053483522

[langleybaston]

One can only relish the fear, trepidation and now sheer paranoia with which this once great nation will be anticipating events of May 9 tomorrow, the traditional day for their vast bombastic display of military might (or rather, military probably can't) in the aftermath of recent events.
The sight of a real disruption would be a major triumph and highlight for humanity, if only with some drones loaded with yellow and blue paint, hurting no-one...What a gigantic coup that would be!

Sweat, Orcs. Sweat.

On a light, pro-Ukraine note, most of our bell-ringers turned up for the Coronation ring in red, white and blue.

However, one lady wore a yellow top and blue trousers. The suggestion was that she should ring upside down,

[BlankBox]

Talk about a kick in the A$$...

https://t.me/Ukraine_365News/51932

[BEagle]

The sight of a real disruption would be a major triumph and highlight for humanity, if only with some drones loaded with yellow and blue paint, hurting no-one...What a gigantic coup that would be!

No - do nothing and let them sweat wondering why!

[rattman]

BREAKING: The Red Cross confirms that Russia destroyed its Odesa warehouse in a missile strike. The 1,000 square meter site contained humanitarian aid and will lead to a disruption of projects.

No Red Cross personnel were present in the warehouse but Russia's offensive against food and humanitarian supplies in Ukraine continues.

Ukrainian Red Cross, different from International Red Cross

[Winemaker]

Ukrainian Red Cross, different from International Red Cross
And so what? It's still an attack on a non-military target and, even worse, on a target whose purpose was to save lives. Don't the 'rules of war' say not to attack ambulances, hospitals, and all sorts of other things with a red cross on them? The Russkies are disgusting and it will take a long time to erase the stain of their conduct.

[NutLoose]

No - do nothing and let them sweat wondering why!

I agree or put out false reports of drones spotted to cause mayhem and confusion, simply overfly some Russian observers in the general direction of Moscow then loop around and return to Ukraine.

[NutLoose]

Nice to seee, though we shouldn’t be seeing it.

https://twitter.com/Feher_Junior/status/1655669716042539008?cxt=HHwWgICzobW1j_otAAAA

​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/Feher_Junior/status/1655669716042539008?cxt=HHwWgICzobW1j_otAAAA

[NutLoose]

Launching the Iranian drones.

https://twitter.com/11Knuk123/status/1653862845363154944?cxt=HHwWgMCz0dnf2fMtAAAA


​​​​​​​https://twitter.com/11Knuk123/status/1653862845363154944?cxt=HHwWgMCz0dnf2fMtAAAA

[rattman]

And so what? It's still an attack on a non-military target and, even worse, on a target whose purpose was to save lives. Don't the 'rules of war' say not to attack ambulances, hospitals, and all sorts of other things with a red cross on them? The Russkies are disgusting and it will take a long time to erase the stain of their conduct.

Because ukrainian red cross removed itself from the **** birds that are the international red cross after they facilitated the a 'filtration' and kidnapping of ukrainians. They are different organisations

[ORAC]

The good news is the 11th round of sanctions is aimed at stopping such circumvention via 3rd party neighbouring countries.

The bad news is that every decision to add a product or country needs to be approved by all 27 EU capitals - and Hungary is sure to veto….

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-aims-central-asia-sanction-circumvention-russia-war/

https://twitter.com/teoyaomiquu/status/1655592133582110721?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


Turns out German companies are avoiding sanctions by supplying various goods to russia via 3rd countries from the former USSR.

Trade with Armenia and Georgia has doubled. Trade with Kyrgistan increased by almost 1000%, and trade with Belarus increased by 77%….

https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/russland-sanktionen-der-verdaechtige-boom-bei-deutschen-exporteuren-a-c37beb74-baaa-4f2b-af8a-adfe95867de3

[Imagegear]

I suspect many would be surprised to discover just how many countries are circumventing sanctions, including our own. one might as well try to block each individual hole in a cullender while the water is still draining through.

When sanctioned stuff from a manufacturer is dispatched to a client, the goods may be accepted into the clients operation, or it may be relabeled and packaged before being shipped to a different "facility", which may itself, have the freedom to ship to a sanctioned destination.

It has happened throughout history, and continues today. Everything has a price.

IG

[B Fraser]

The annual Moscow "show of strength" was remarkably short this morning with no helicopter or fixed wing flypasts. The blue skies and puffy clouds were there in abundance ........so we await the excuse that it was due to the weather.

:rolleyes:

[ORAC]

Retreat from Kherson into Crimea accelerating…

https://twitter.com/maria_drutska/status/1655662892790759425?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


The russian occupation administration has left Skadovsk - General Staff.

"On the night of May 6, the occupiers loaded documentation, equipment, other property of state institutions onto motor vehicles, & by the morning of May 7, a significant part of the ru occupation administration, along with their families, had left the city."


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1016x939/image_c7054fc1e65129ca3abb27d9403a2610f59e703d.jpeg
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[NutLoose]

Contents of the parade are rather telling..


MAKS 22 (https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA)
I forgot to add, for example, the T-34 that was on parade in Moscow today was made in Kharkiv. This is the greatness of Russia, without Ukraine they can do little...

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1655865740258320387?cxt=HHwWhoCxvcPH6PotAAAA

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1655865740258320387?cxt=HHwWhoCxvcPH6PotAAAA

.. (https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1655865740258320387?cxt=HHwWhoCxvcPH6PotAAAA)

[NutLoose]

Some Russians abandoned their positions in Bahkmut,

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1655863683593953281?cxt=HHwWgoCzkejP5_otAAAA

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1655863683593953281?cxt=HHwWgoCzkejP5_otAAAA

[NutLoose]

I don't think we have heard this dicks logic before

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1655674929625309189?cxt=HHwWioCxvfHkkfotAAAA

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1655674929625309189?cxt=HHwWioCxvfHkkfotAAAA

[NutLoose]

Unreal :(

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1655647677147668491?cxt=HHwWloCz2cqyhfotAAAA

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1655647677147668491?cxt=HHwWloCz2cqyhfotAAAA

[NutLoose]

Aviation content lol..

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1655876428288647170?cxt=HHwWhICzwdO17fotAAAA

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1655876428288647170?cxt=HHwWhICzwdO17fotAAAA

[NutLoose]

:E

https://twitter.com/i/status/1607450072144396288

https://twitter.com/i/status/1607450072144396288

[212man]

:E



https://twitter.com/i/status/1607450072144396288
it’s curious that the English translation also rhymes!

[NutLoose]

It's him again ...

This time spouting more purile dross

https://youtu.be/2UrZTYZUuNM

[Tartiflette Fan]

it’s curious that the English translation also rhymes!

Not curious, just a sign of an excellent translation: you should always aim to capture the essence of the original, not just transpose words. It becomes more difficult when balancing the accuracy of the words against the value of the stylistic elements ( here the rhyme )

[ORAC]

Not sure where the UK comes into this deal….

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1655869096041349121?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


​​​​​​​The #Netherlands may transfer F-16 combat aircraft to #Ukraine

According to Prime Minister Mark Rutte, the issue of the supply of F-16 fighters is being discussed with the United States, Great Britain and Denmark.

[Sepp]

Not sure where the UK comes into this deal….
/snip/

Covering their gap in capability until it's backfilled?

[Fly-by-Wife]

Not sure where the UK comes into this deal….

The #Netherlands may transfer F-16 combat aircraft to #Ukraine

According to Prime Minister Mark Rutte, the issue of the supply of F-16 fighters is being discussed with the United States, Great Britain and Denmark.
Supplying them is one thing, but who is going to maintain them and support the weapon systems? They may have trained pilots, but what about the ground crews? Maybe there's the possibility of servicing them in Romania or Poland between ops?

[ORAC]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1655862876794396673?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


The Russian Ambassador to #Poland failed to lay a wreath at the memorial in Warsaw.

The citizens forced him to leave the place.

What the Russian ambassador saw today in Warsaw... when visiting the red army memorial for "victory day":


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/image_a4fc2251571dcfb3a68dcc76119e77bb7b92472a.jpeg
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[ORAC]

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1655847905700265986?s=61&t=rmEeUn68HhlFHGKbTPQr_A


Washington Post: UK preparing to send long-range missiles to Ukraine.

The U.K. appears ready to send Ukraine missiles that can hit targets up to 300 kilometers away, the WP reported on May 9, citing a procurement notice by the U.K.-led International Fund for Ukraine.

In the notice posted on May 2, the U.K. Defense Ministry asked for "expressions of interest" in supplying such missiles, requesting a response within three days, the WP wrote.

No final decision has been made yet, according to an unnamed U.K. official.…

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/international-fund-for-ukraine-ifu

​​​​​​​Long range strike - closed on 4 May 2023, 23:00 BSTEOIs were requested in the following sub-capability areas:

Missiles or Rockets with a range 100-300km; land, sea or air launch. Payload 20-490kg.

Desirable requirements:


Low Probability of Intercept (LPI)
Includes Mission Planning Capability
Assured navigation (with hardened Global Navigation Satellite System capability) in the face of advanced countermeasures and EM spectrum denial
Air defence penetration methods to increase probability of successful strike
Technical Readiness Level of at least 8

Suppliers who submitted an EOI will be contacted from 5 June.

[Spunky Monkey]

The Russian Ambassador to #Poland failed to lay a wreath at the memorial in Warsaw.

The citizens forced him to leave the place.

What the Russian ambassador saw today in Warsaw... when visiting the red army memorial for "victory day":


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I find it rather humbling to see how individuals (not governments) find such brilliant ways to say "К черту Россию," "poshel na khuy."

I sincerely hope the more tardy members of NATO pull their collective noses out of the trough and implement the sanctions and supply Ukraine with everything they need.
In the near future the world will look back fondly on those who stood squarely with Ukraine and despise the Quisling leaders of states that dragged their feet.

On a side note, perhaps the Ukrainians don't need a counteroffensive at the moment. They are awaiting the hardening of the ground, the supply of more tanks that arrive in June and most importantly, the Russians seem to be pulling back in several areas through fear alone.

[Video Mixdown]

Supplying them is one thing, but who is going to maintain them and support the weapon systems? They may have trained pilots, but what about the ground crews? Maybe there's the possibility of servicing them in Romania or Poland between ops?
Can't see why there should be any insurmountable problems. Ukraine has an Air Force whose ground personnel can be trained in the required skills, just as their soldiers have been trained to use Western tanks, artillery and anti-aircraft systems.

[meleagertoo]

it’s curious that the English translation also rhymes!
I'd be curious to hear a Russian speaker confirm that the soundtrack bears any resemblance to the subtitles.
I'd be very surprised if it did.

[soarbum]

I'd be curious to hear a Russian speaker confirm that the soundtrack bears any resemblance to the subtitles.
I'd be very surprised if it did.

I don't see why not. The English version of 99 red balloons rhymes better than the original (note that I even got some aviation related content in there :)